2020 Presidential Election - Trump versus Biden

KillerGopherFan

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You were a cool as a cucumber Ricky Rubio voter in 2016, why would you? Now you're a desperate flailing Trump cultist looking for any port in a storm. You found one.
Why would I choose to believe in a poll that will be proven right or wrong in a matter of weeks, presumably, if I didn’t believe it was right?

Trafalgar is basically picking an extremely close election that could go either way in a number of states. Whereas the traditional polls are predicting an electoral landslide for Biden.
 

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Without reading the article, I thought Trump was specifically responding to the $400 million debt coming due, not that his total was more. In which case, this tweet is totally meaningless and without merit.
 

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Why would I choose to believe in a poll that will be proven right or wrong in a matter of weeks, presumably, if I didn’t believe it was right?

Trafalgar is basically picking an extremely close election that could go either way in a number of states. Whereas the traditional polls are predicting an electoral landslide for Biden.

Seeing as how you've typed 33 mentions of Trafalgar since September 23rd, i suppose you really have no choice now but to be fully invested.

Good luck! 🤞
 

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Why would I choose to believe in a poll that will be proven right or wrong in a matter of weeks, presumably, if I didn’t believe it was right?

Trafalgar is basically picking an extremely close election that could go either way in a number of states. Whereas the traditional polls are predicting an electoral landslide for Biden.
The same reason I choose to believe the one prognosticator picking the Gophers to win the B1G.
 

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Well I know more about both politics and football than you, so I won’t make the same mistake that you would. And I’m a realist.
Clearly Trump is going to win this race, says the realist.

Michigan: Trump vs. Biden
RCP Average10/6 - 10/15----50.142.9Biden +7.2
The Hill/HarrisX10/12 - 10/151289 LV--5443Biden +11
Trafalgar Group (R)*10/11 - 10/141025 LV3.04647Trump +1
EPIC-MRA10/8 - 10/12600 LV4.04839Biden +9
Reuters/Ipsos10/7 - 10/13620 LV5.05143Biden +8
NY Times/Siena*10/6 - 10/11614 LV4.64840Biden +8
CBS News/YouGov10/6 - 10/91190 LV3.35246Biden +6
Emerson10/6 - 10/7716 LV3.65242Biden +10
 

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Seeing as how you've typed 33 mentions of Trafalgar since September 23rd, i suppose you really have no choice now but to be fully invested.

Good luck! 🤞
Next week is going to be rough for you. Maybe the media can pull you through it. Perhaps they can successfully hide everything from half the country for another couple weeks.....That is your hope.
 

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Clearly Trump is going to win this race, says the realist.

Michigan: Trump vs. Biden
RCP Average10/6 - 10/15----50.142.9Biden +7.2
The Hill/HarrisX10/12 - 10/151289 LV--5443Biden +11
Trafalgar Group (R)*10/11 - 10/141025 LV3.04647Trump +1
EPIC-MRA10/8 - 10/12600 LV4.04839Biden +9
Reuters/Ipsos10/7 - 10/13620 LV5.05143Biden +8
NY Times/Siena*10/6 - 10/11614 LV4.64840Biden +8
CBS News/YouGov10/6 - 10/91190 LV3.35246Biden +6
Emerson10/6 - 10/7716 LV3.65242Biden +10
Stop lying. I didn’t say who is going to win. I said I trust Trafalgar more than any other poll or polling averages b/c it has a history of correctly predicting the outcome.

The polling that you’ve responded with is garbage. This election is close in the battleground states, which is all that matters.

I’d be happy to bet you anything that Trafalgar’s last polls in each battleground state will be closer to predicting final vote percentages than the averages of polls, excluding Trafalgar’s data.
 

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Biden is going after your 401K. When you have hundreds of trillions of new programs, everyone pays.

A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.
 

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That's called prudence, a good quality that Trump never learned. I never expected Biden to have a popular vote margin reaching double digits, but he has a non-zero chance of getting there.
 

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Next week is going to be rough for you. Maybe the media can pull you through it. Perhaps they can successfully hide everything from half the country for another couple weeks.....That is your hope.
Imagine pinning your hopes on a Russian disinformation campaign. Again.
 

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I hope the polls show the race as close as possible. If someone calls me to ask who I'm voting for, I will tell the poll taker that I'm voting for Trump.

I want to drive as much urgency into people's minds as can be done. I want them scared, that if they don't get off their butts and vote, that Trump could win.

The more people vote, can't possibly hurt the chances to kick Trump out.
 

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Next week is going to be rough for you. Maybe the media can pull you through it. Perhaps they can successfully hide everything from half the country for another couple weeks.....That is your hope.
As a 40 something white male in Minnesota, not much is going to be rough for me. Let's be real.
 

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And you need to bend a knee and apologize for your crime of being white.

But I would guess you’ve already denounced your whiteness. 👍
Realizing that i'm blessed and having compassion for my fellow humans is bending the knee? That's a pretty big leap. But i suppose not from where you stand on things. I hope you find something good to believe in someday.
 

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If Biden/Harris win, it is because young Americans have drank the socialist kool-aid that Russians, Chinese, Cubans and Venezuelans drank...to their loss of freedom and prosperity. Corporate America will relocate their manufacturing and wealth to overseas areas where they can compete. Jobs for the middle class and lower class will dry up and a negative economic spiral will happen for any organization that doesn't tap into government welfare funding mechanisms. Within 20 years or less, the US will be a second-tier nation with no independent wealth outside of government officials.
Welcome to a brave new world.
 

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Corporate America will relocate their manufacturing and wealth to overseas areas where they can compete.

Really? They already are with manufacturing. But tell me where are they going to go?
 

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Of course not. What it means is that you can't say a particular pollster will be the most accurate in an upcoming election because that pollster was among the most accurate in a previous election. Zogby used to tout their results earlier this century because of some good polling in a previous election. Now they are rated fairly poorly. Remember, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Well, that's the crux of the problem. Nobody knows which polls will be more accurate this time around - yet a certain poster on here very clearly tells us all each and every time if it is a poll we can trust or not a poll we can trust.
 

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If Biden/Harris win, it is because young Americans have drank the socialist kool-aid that Russians, Chinese, Cubans and Venezuelans drank...to their loss of freedom and prosperity. Corporate America will relocate their manufacturing and wealth to overseas areas where they can compete. Jobs for the middle class and lower class will dry up and a negative economic spiral will happen for any organization that doesn't tap into government welfare funding mechanisms. Within 20 years or less, the US will be a second-tier nation with no independent wealth outside of government officials.
Welcome to a brave new world.
Dramatic much?
 
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