2020 Presidential Election - Trump versus Biden

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Biden -- Let's send cargo planes of cash to Middle East terrorist groups.
Trump -- Let's work towards peace and bring our troops home.
MSM -- War is good for our ratings, we want more wars.

 

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Even Hiden can't defend his own policies. Wonder if he's decided if he's for or against fracking yet? Guess with Hiden it all depends on who happens to be writing the teleprompter script that day.

 

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Biden -- Let's send cargo planes of cash to Middle East terrorist groups.
Trump -- Let's work towards peace and bring our troops home.
MSM -- War is good for our ratings, we want more wars.

Good for her. She’s confused tho. Howie made it clear there is no media bias.
 

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The polls are tightening. RCP now has Biden +5.7%. And that is with some goofy polls that tilt very Dem. Here is how you KNOW that a poll is bad:

Economist/ You Gov has Biden up 9 on Trump. D's are sampled +7, that's too much, but then you see that they ask what cable news people watch... 23% Fox News 18% CNN and 10% MSNBC. The problem with that is we know what is true of the general population. Fox News has 3 times the views as CNN. So whether intentionally or not Economist, has way over sampled CNN and MSNBC viewers (two anti- Trump networks) to get their result.

I'd guess Trump is tied with Biden or slightly ahead at this point. It feels better than 2016 at the moment.
 

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The polls are tightening. RCP now has Biden +5.7%. And that is with some goofy polls that tilt very Dem. Here is how you KNOW that a poll is bad:

Economist/ You Gov has Biden up 9 on Trump. D's are sampled +7, that's too much, but then you see that they ask what cable news people watch... 23% Fox News 18% CNN and 10% MSNBC. The problem with that is we know what is true of the general population. Fox News has 3 times the views as CNN. So whether intentionally or not Economist, has way over sampled CNN and MSNBC viewers (two anti- Trump networks) to get their result.

I'd guess Trump is tied with Biden or slightly ahead at this point. It feels better than 2016 at the moment.
Oh man. You're really losing it now! More skewed polls! You've been barking up that tree since 2012.

It might be time to put you in a straight jacket, stick you in a padded room, and have you sit in the corner. You're going to be calling for armed violence in the streets when Trump loses. You'll scream about a stolen election, rigged voting, and you'll radicalize to violence. Book it!

Trump's going down in flames. It's great! Biden will Make America Great Again.
 

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Oh man. You're really losing it now! More skewed polls! You've been barking up that tree since 2012.

It might be time to put you in a straight jacket, stick you in a padded room, and have you sit in the corner. You're going to be calling for armed violence in the streets when Trump loses. You'll scream about a stolen election, rigged voting, and you'll radicalize to violence. Book it!

Trump's going down in flames. It's great! Biden will Make America Great Again.
I am having some memory trouble here...maybe you can help. What happened in 2016? :)

Violence and totalitarian government is the way of the left. If Biden wins (actually Harris) then I will peacefully go to work the following day and produce, just as I have always done. BLM/Antifa/#resistance....that's you.
 

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I am having some memory trouble here...maybe you can help. What happened in 2016? :)

Violence and totalitarian government is the way of the left. If Biden wins (actually Harris) then I will peacefully go to work the following day and produce, just as I have always done. BLM/Antifa/#resistance....that's you.
We can both hold hands and work on beating Harris in 2024 the day after Trump loses, unless you're voting for Donald, another Trump, or Trump-like figure. In which case, go Kamala!
 

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The Trump Train is Rolling:
  1. The Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta’s GDPNow forecasting model increased its prediction for third-quarter GDP growth to 30.8 percent. That would be the highest number on record dating back to 1947 (and, again, likely ever)
  2. The country’s unemployment rate dropped to 8.4 percent from its post-pandemic high of 14.7 percent. Recall that in April the Congressional Budget Office forecast a 16 percent unemployment rate for the third quarter.
  3. Trump administration’s historic steps towards peace in the Middle East. First, it was the United Arab Emirates and Israel making peace. Then Serbia and Kosovo agreed to normalize economic relations with Kosovo (a mostly Muslim nation) recognizing Israel and Serbia moving its embassy to Jerusalem.
  4. Then Bahrain and Israel agreed to normalize relations. Despite protestations from the Palestinians, the Arab League refused to condemn the Israel/UAE deal. Saudi Arabia agreed to let Israeli commercial aircraft fly over its territory.
Meanwhile Hiden Biden is playing these lyrics on his phone at that start of his "press conference":

I want to breathe your neck slowly
Let me tell you things in your ears
So that you remember when you're not with me

If I ask you for a kiss, come give it to me
I know that you're thinking about it
I've been trying for some time
 

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This is basically what I've garnered from reading the board for a while;

With Trump, what he's accomplished from a production and achievement standpoint in the last 3.5 years is nothing short of incredible and amazing, HOWEVER, I don't really like how he operates and how he talks/tweets, and I hate him, so I'm voting for Joe.

I think that about sums it up.
 

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This is basically what I've garnered from reading the board for a while;

With Trump, what he's accomplished from a production and achievement standpoint in the last 3.5 years is nothing short of incredible and amazing, HOWEVER, I don't really like how he operates and how he talks/tweets, and I hate him, so I'm voting for Joe.

I think that about sums it up.
Thank you for finally admitting to your stupidity.
 

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The polls are tightening. RCP now has Biden +5.7%. And that is with some goofy polls that tilt very Dem. Here is how you KNOW that a poll is bad:

Economist/ You Gov has Biden up 9 on Trump. D's are sampled +7, that's too much, but then you see that they ask what cable news people watch... 23% Fox News 18% CNN and 10% MSNBC. The problem with that is we know what is true of the general population. Fox News has 3 times the views as CNN. So whether intentionally or not Economist, has way over sampled CNN and MSNBC viewers (two anti- Trump networks) to get their result.

I'd guess Trump is tied with Biden or slightly ahead at this point. It feels better than 2016 at the moment.
People with brains don't watch cable news.....
 

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People with brains don't watch cable news.....
Cable news is 90% crap. We agree on that. Cable news is no place to get facts about what is happening. Facts require work. Facts are not entertaining.
In the poll I referred to 28% viewed MSNBC or CNN, 23% viewed Fox. I guess there are more brainless Democrats than Rs in that poll. :)
 

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The polls are tightening. RCP now has Biden +5.7%. And that is with some goofy polls that tilt very Dem. Here is how you KNOW that a poll is bad:

Economist/ You Gov has Biden up 9 on Trump. D's are sampled +7, that's too much, but then you see that they ask what cable news people watch... 23% Fox News 18% CNN and 10% MSNBC. The problem with that is we know what is true of the general population. Fox News has 3 times the views as CNN. So whether intentionally or not Economist, has way over sampled CNN and MSNBC viewers (two anti- Trump networks) to get their result.

I'd guess Trump is tied with Biden or slightly ahead at this point. It feels better than 2016 at the moment.
5.8% average margin on the RCP general election board today; just checked it. If we look at the presidential elections this century beginning with 2000, only Obama's 2008 margin (7.2%) was larger than that. If Trump loses the popular vote by 5.8%, he has virtually no chance of winning the electoral college. Obama won by 3.9% in 2012 and that was good enough for a 332-206 electoral margin.

The rest of your post is the usual drivel. Some polls do oversample Democrats but they tend to have higher than 5.8% margins. Also, partisan preference is not a static number; it can and does fluctuate, even in a polarized society. A 7% Democratic margin might seem higher than other estimates but not unreasonably so. Democratic House candidates received 8.6% more votes than Republican candidates in 2018.
 
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We can both hold hands and work on beating Harris in 2024 the day after Trump loses, unless you're voting for Donald, another Trump, or Trump-like figure. In which case, go Kamala!
I suggest you hold hands with Howie.
 

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5.8% average margin on the RCP general election board today; just checked it. If we look at the presidential elections this century beginning with 2000, only Obama's 2008 margin (7.2%) was larger than that. If Trump loses the popular vote by 5.8%, he has virtually no chance of winning the electoral college. Obama won by 3.9% in 2012 and that was good enough for a 332-206 electoral margin.
The polls are not correct. You are a slow learner. What happened in 2016?

In 2016 even I DOUBTED TRUMP! I voted for him because he was just a much better alternative than Hillary. I figured him for being half Democrat (and I said so at the time).

In 2016 he was accused of sex scandals, being a Russian puppet, he was a liar who wouldn't accomplish anything and he really was just running for President as a publicity stunt. On election day he was a 95-5 underdog according to all the great minds. The wall was a joke, his ideas about the economy were a joke the deep state was a joke...and he won!

Now we know that he kept his promises as no other president before him:

The wall is getting built right over the top of the Dems' dead bodies
Mexico IS helping patrol the border with 25000 troops
He DID run the greatest economy in world history
Black unemployment did drop to all time lows
He did offer the biggest DACA deal of all times (refused by the Ds)
He has gained PEACE in the Middle East and has two Nobel Prize nominations
The attempts to frame him with Russian was a hoax and treason by the Obama administration
In the process of showing that he has revealed the Deep State and the true character (lack of) of the media
He has cut the cost of prescription drugs
He has overturned the foolish Iran deal and still kept the peace (the peace agreements isolate Iran!)
He has confronted years of abuses by China and made them pay
He is rebuilding our manufacturing base
Trump policies have been fantastic for small business- and thus employees
He has been a freedom president- freedom of speech and religion

On the other side we have:

Joe Biden who is obviously senile and a tool of the socialist hard left'
Democrat cities falling apart in riots and high crime
No plan for America

I make no predictions. The media is powerful and 95% Dem powered propaganda. It will be a close election.
 

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Here's the translation of the lyrics creepy Joe decided to play at his "press conference". I think he should start using this at all his events.

Yes, you know that I've been looking at you for a while
I have to dance with you today
I saw, that your look was calling me
Show me the way that I'm going oh
You you are the magnet and I'm the metal
I'm getting closer and I'm setting up the plan
Just the thought of it accelerates the pulse
now I'm enjoying it more than usual
All my senses are asking for more
This must be taken without any trouble

Slowly
I want to breathe your neck slowly

Let me tell you things in your ears
So that you remember when you're not with me
Slowly
I want to strip you off with kisses slowly
Sign the walls of your labrynth
And make your whole body a manuscript
Turn it up turn it up..... turn it up, turn it up

I wanna see you dance
I wanna be your rhythm
I want you to show me
Your favourite places places places Places
Let me surpass your danger zones
To make you scream
And forget your name

If I ask you for a kiss , come give it to me
I know that you're thinking about it
I've been trying for some time
Mommy this is giving and giving it
You know that your heart with me makes you bom bom
You know that this baby is looking for my bom bom
Come test my mouth to see what it taste like to you
I want to see how much love do you have
I'm not in a hurry, I want to do the trip
Let's start slowly then wildly

Step by step, soft softly
We are going to get caught little by little
When you kiss me so skillfully
I think that you're malicious delicately
Step by step, soft softly
We're going to get caught, little by little
And it's just that this beauty is a puzzle
But to put it together here I have the pieces

Slowly
I wanna breathe your neck slowly
Let me whisper things into your ear
So that you remember if you're not with me
Slowly
I wanna strip you off with kisses slowly
Sign the walls of your laberinth
And make your whole body a manuscript
Turn it up

I wanna see you dance
I wanna be your rhythm
I want you to show me
Your favourite places
Let me surpass your danger zones
Till I make you scream
And forget your name
Slowly
We will do it on the beach in Puerto Rico
Till the waves scream dear lord
So that my seal stays with you

Step by step, soft softly
We're going to get caught little by little
I want you to show me
Your favourite places places places Places
Step by step, soft softly
We're going to get caught little by little
To make you scream (Fonsi)
And forget your name (DY)
Slowly
That song has 2.7B views on YouTube and features a Puerto Rican artist. You, and your fever swamp source, are over-thinking it.
 

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The polls are tightening. RCP now has Biden +5.7%. And that is with some goofy polls that tilt very Dem. Here is how you KNOW that a poll is bad:

Economist/ You Gov has Biden up 9 on Trump. D's are sampled +7, that's too much, but then you see that they ask what cable news people watch... 23% Fox News 18% CNN and 10% MSNBC. The problem with that is we know what is true of the general population. Fox News has 3 times the views as CNN. So whether intentionally or not Economist, has way over sampled CNN and MSNBC viewers (two anti- Trump networks) to get their result.

I'd guess Trump is tied with Biden or slightly ahead at this point. It feels better than 2016 at the moment.
So much tightening! Biden is well ahead of where Hillary was, and there's no BS Comey memo coming to save Don, though Lyin Corrupt Bill Barr will try his best.
 

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The polls are not correct. You are a slow learner. What happened in 2016?

In 2016 even I DOUBTED TRUMP! I voted for him because he was just a much better alternative than Hillary. I figured him for being half Democrat (and I said so at the time).

In 2016 he was accused of sex scandals, being a Russian puppet, he was a liar who wouldn't accomplish anything and he really was just running for President as a publicity stunt. On election day he was a 95-5 underdog according to all the great minds. The wall was a joke, his ideas about the economy were a joke the deep state was a joke...and he won!

Now we know that he kept his promises as no other president before him:

The wall is getting built right over the top of the Dems' dead bodies
Mexico IS helping patrol the border with 25000 troops
He DID run the greatest economy in world history
Black unemployment did drop to all time lows
He did offer the biggest DACA deal of all times (refused by the Ds)
He has gained PEACE in the Middle East and has two Nobel Prize nominations
The attempts to frame him with Russian was a hoax and treason by the Obama administration
In the process of showing that he has revealed the Deep State and the true character (lack of) of the media
He has cut the cost of prescription drugs
He has overturned the foolish Iran deal and still kept the peace (the peace agreements isolate Iran!)
He has confronted years of abuses by China and made them pay
He is rebuilding our manufacturing base
Trump policies have been fantastic for small business- and thus employees
He has been a freedom president- freedom of speech and religion

On the other side we have:

Joe Biden who is obviously senile and a tool of the socialist hard left'
Democrat cities falling apart in riots and high crime
No plan for America

I make no predictions. The media is powerful and 95% Dem powered propaganda. It will be a close election.
Oh man, you really are afraid Trump will lose. The delusions you're creating to protect yourself are alarming.
 

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Oh man, you really are afraid Trump will lose. The delusions you're creating to protect yourself are alarming.
Of course I am afraid he will lose! The alternative to him is brutal. I have no delusions. I understand the deception that is going on right now and the dangers that leftists like you are exposing this great nation to.
 

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The polls are not correct. You are a slow learner. What happened in 2016?
2016 appears to be the extent of your knowledge of elections history or maybe your memory only goes back that far. The 2016 election does not control future elections. If you want a recent election to be harbinger of the future, then I'll go with a more recent one: 2018.

You have no evidence that the polls are "wrong." WISHING they are wrong does not make them wrong no matter how much mental gymnastics you do in your head to convince yourself.

Trump winning in 2016 was a big surprise. Trump winning in 2020 would be an even bigger surprise and I'm betting he doesn't pull that off again. The guy hasn't exceeded 44% on the RCP general election average since the end of March. Right now, he's at 43.2 and Biden is at 49. That's 92.3% of the vote with 7.7% remaining. Figure 3% for 3rd parties and that leaves 4.7%. Even if Trump gets 3% and Biden gets 1.7% of those, that gives Biden 50.7 and Trump 46.2 and that's bigger than Obama's margin over Romney (bet you thought you were going to win that one too!).
 

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Becoming increasingly clear that Wally is Mpls on this board, campaigning just as hard to be put on people's Ignore list as Mpls
 
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