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Bad Gopher

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As the years and decades go by anyone my age (74) gains experience but the years begin to take their toll. I am not as sharp today as I was 40 years ago. There is more memory issues, especially short term memory, and there are moments of fog. Don't kid yourself, people over 70 may very well be good for another handful of years (or not) but age should be an issue on your list of concerns. Personally, I can not believe that people are blithly not concerned about the idea that a person in his late 70s is running for eight years as the president not of Costa Rica but of the United States of America!
The wife and I were just talking last night about the plusses and minuses of each of the candidates. A big plus with Amy is that she's relatively young and sharp. In fairness to Liz and Bernie, they're both uncommonly sharp and "youthful" for people their age.

With the exception of Pete, this field is yet another indication of how we're still in the stranglehold of the Baby Boomers. The way they've monopolized power in the D party, it's clear that they're going to have to have the power pried from their dead, cold fingers.
 

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Not really much of a reason to support a party that doesn't support you or resemble much of what it was when you first identified with them. You wouldn't be the first long-time/lifelong Dem to get off the wagon in the last few years. The party is barely recognizable anymore to many people.
Where do you go? The Republican Party jumped ship with Rove and the Tea party movement. The Democrats as usual are playing from behind and think going extreme is the winning strategy.
 

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Where do you go? The Republican Party jumped ship with Rove and the Tea party movement. The Democrats as usual are playing from behind and think going extreme is the winning strategy.
Rove?
 

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I guess I agree with this. I honestly remember after gay marriage became legal thinking, "Ok, now what should I feel indignant about?"

And yes, Trump won the culture war. He abandoned identity politics and litmus tests. The Dems haven't. I said it before. If we continue to compartmentalize, parcel-out, and ration voters into the female vote, the black vote, the gay vote, etc., we will lose the election.
The people who really care about identity politics are rich white liberals. I don't know that you can forge a winning coalition by catering to those people and also socialist revolutionaries. I think the largest voting block is middle class americans voting for their perceived economic interests. They are nervous about the grandiose Democrat plans.
 

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Word on the street is that the Russian bot trolls are ramping up activity, and they're going after Sanders. That's evidently who they and, by extension, Trump are most afraid of.
Sanders has his own bot army. It will be a war!
 

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Personally, I can not believe that people are blithly not concerned about the idea that a person in his late 70s is running for eight years as the president not of COSTA RICA but of the United States of America!
 
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Word on the street is that the Russian bot trolls are ramping up activity, and they're going after Sanders. That's evidently who they and, by extension, Trump are most afraid of.
The Russians are afraid of Comrade Bernie Sanders. You can't honestly believe this?
 

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Ahhhhhhhhhh...what are you talking about? IIRC, you're a big Trump fan. Did you have these same concerns four years ago? Or are you only concerned with someone in his late 70s. My grandmother lived into her 90s and could run mental circles around you (and me).
I did not vote for Trump or the idiot last time. As for this time I will vote between the two people actually contesting the election, not for some mythical person not actually on the ballot. My point was actually quite simple, advanced age is an issue which should concern voters because people over a certain age (on average) are in decline. Not a complicated or imaginary problem. You can write in your grandma if you want.
 

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The wife and I were just talking last night about the plusses and minuses of each of the candidates. A big plus with Amy is that she's relatively young and sharp. In fairness to Liz and Bernie, they're both uncommonly sharp and "youthful" for people their age.

With the exception of Pete, this field is yet another indication of how we're still in the stranglehold of the Baby Boomers. The way they've monopolized power in the D party, it's clear that they're going to have to have the power pried from their dead, cold fingers.
YES! I've said before; my real issue isn't necessarily with Republicans. It's with boomers. The sooner these greedy narcissists are out of office the better. C'mon Tulsi & Pete!
 

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Update from Facebook: After pointing out that Sanders has one of the largest grassroots campaigns in history and asking if she's suggesting all of them are sexist, she responded, "Yes". Her comment got infinitely more Likes than mine. We're doomed...
 

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So Idaho wasn’t really ever at risk of using your tourist money.

I’ve heard that they got the nicest public courses in the country. I’m not going either, but that’s because the flights aren’t convenient and I’m guessing the food scene sucks.

I’m guessing that you probably would put South Carolina in the “shithole state” category, but come soft shell crab season..,, it’s worth the visit.
Actually, the food scene is very nice. Montana actually has fantastic food sites to visit. I drove to Idaho last summer with the family and we loved it.
 

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The wife and I were just talking last night about the plusses and minuses of each of the candidates. A big plus with Amy is that she's relatively young and sharp. In fairness to Liz and Bernie, they're both uncommonly sharp and "youthful" for people their age.

With the exception of Pete, this field is yet another indication of how we're still in the stranglehold of the Baby Boomers. The way they've monopolized power in the D party, it's clear that they're going to have to have the power pried from their dead, cold fingers.
Most older boomers are retired and not holding on to power. I'm a later boomer and I don't think seventy + year olds should be running for president. I think the biggest problem of this primary is that two stubborn old men refused to get out of the way early on and that kept some younger (and better) people from stepping in but you can't blame that on a generation. We've always had people like this. And boomers aren't the ones voting in big margins for Bernie. One of the candidates who has done the best with older voters in the youngest candidate in the race.
 

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Where do you go? The Republican Party jumped ship with Rove and the Tea party movement. The Democrats as usual are playing from behind and think going extreme is the winning strategy.
Very good question. Where do you go? At this point, for me, the only option is either 3rd party/not voting, or voting for the person who is a lot less likely to take us down a road I have absolutely zero interest in going down. The vision of America (if you can even call it that) that most of these Dem candidates are painting is a horrible and terrible place IMO.

It's not just a different view of things between Dems and Reps anymore; most of today's Liberals are actively pushing for a socialistic society, one in which people will be told or encouraged how to think and how to speak, shamed into thinking certain ways, dramatic wealth re-distribution, et al. It's not remotely a world that most people even 15 years ago would have thought we would ever come close to and now politicians like "the Squad" are telling everyone this is the way it should be now.

Who in the world could get behind a party like that at this point?
 

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The Russians are afraid of Comrade Bernie Sanders. You can't honestly believe this?
Not after hearing later that the Sanders campaign's been told the Russians are trying to HELP him. TBH, what's going on here? Serious question.
 

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Most older boomers are retired and not holding on to power. I'm a later boomer and I don't think seventy + year olds should be running for president. I think the biggest problem of this primary is that two stubborn old men refused to get out of the way early on and that kept some younger (and better) people from stepping in but you can't blame that on a generation. We've always had people like this. And boomers aren't the ones voting in big margins for Bernie. One of the candidates who has done the best with older voters in the youngest candidate in the race.
Both Sanders and Warren connect well with young people, and I'm not advocating generational warfare. Heck, Bernie and AOC are best buds. My point, I guess, is that we deserve more younger choices than Pete. The other young candidates were elbowed out of the way by a crowded boomer field.
 

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Both Sanders and Warren connect well with young people, and I'm not advocating generational warfare. Heck, Bernie and AOC are best buds. My point, I guess, is that we deserve more younger choices than Pete. The other young candidates were elbowed out of the way by a crowded boomer field.
Of course they connect with young people. Those young people that haven’t worked hard to get ahead and make a living, save, haven‘t taken on unwise debt, and put themselves in position to need personal bailouts. Those young people that are more concerned with what other people have than what opportunity and potential that they and their peers have to make something for themselves.

It’s not all young people. It’s not even most. It’s just the ones whose upbringing and circumstances have attracted them to Socialism/Communism.
 

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There is no doubt young people think boomers created their bad circumstance, and that is partially true. We advised them to go to college. We did not tell them to get a masters degree to work at a McDonalds after graduation and expect Mom and Dad bail them out., that is the Boomers. I find the disgust over Boomers to be puzzling. I taught my kids how to save, manage money, budget, and how to avoid the pitfalls of assuming debt. And, that is not a Boomer lesson. That was a lesson given to me by the generation of the Great Depression. And, their wisdom seems to be built on some serious experience.
 

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I’m sure glad howie reassured us that AOC and her like were just a fleeting insignificant media story. It sure would be a disaster if someone of her philosophy was nominated by the Democrat Party.
 
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