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Amy's best chance is as someone's VP. That president then gets impeached or killed and Amy becomes president.
 

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How is it rigged? Because Pete got 2 more delegates in Iowa? Iowa set their own rules, and those 2 delegates are not going to matter in the grand scheme of things.
Stop it with your reasonable, sane takes! Just stop it! This is an internet message board!
 

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Amy's best chance is as someone's VP. That president then gets impeached or killed and Amy becomes president.
Statistically, as a 78 year old who just had a heart attack, Bernie has 3.5 years to go. I don't think he will pick Amy though. Tulsi, maybe? What a dream ticket that would be.
 

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I have to ask, S2, Tulsi says she’s supporting Yang’s idea of Universal Basic Income. I didn’t know that was part of her deal. I assume you and other Libertarians hate that idea?
 

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I don't think he will pick Amy though. Tulsi, maybe? What a dream ticket that would be.
Please please please please.

That is literally a replay McCain’s Palin desperation. Old white man picks young, good looking woman from non-contiguous state with semi-radical views.
 

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Please please please please.

That is literally a replay McCain’s Palin desperation. Old white man picks young, good looking woman from non-contiguous state with semi-radical views.
Her or someone like Nina Turner. Either way, hard pass for me. Let them get crushed. Bass can let us know which 3rd party candidate is the least insane this year.
 

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Her or someone like Nina Turner. Either way, hard pass for me. Let them get crushed. Bass can let us know which 3rd party candidate is the least insane this year.
Unfortunately I'm sure they will all be losers again.... I want S2 to run.
 

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One plus of a Bloomberg-Trump general would be Bloomberg responding to Trump in a way that Republicans couldn't in the '16 primary.
 

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Looks like Klobuchar is a closet racist by Dem standards..... she wanted that wall (and likely still does). :)

 

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I have to ask, S2, Tulsi says she’s supporting Yang’s idea of Universal Basic Income. I didn’t know that was part of her deal. I assume you and other Libertarians hate that idea?
Of course. But I could get behind it if it eliminated federal welfare programs. I think it's a political winner. Dems like it because they're getting cash for their constituents. Repubs like it because it eliminates a ton of federal bureaucracies and busy bodies. Won't be a perfect solution, but I think a net good.
 

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Interesting take by Karl Rove. To paraphrase, the rise of Buttigieg and Klobuchar makes it more difficult for any Dem candidate to get enough delegates to win nomination prior to the convention if Sanders, Mayo Pete, Amy, and Bloomberg keep splitting up the delegates, not to mention whatever Biden and Warren get. Most, except Super Tuesday losers, will stay in the race into April.

That may seem like an obvious conclusion, but typically, even with the 2016 GOP primaries, the race was down to a few candidates, but one candidate (Trump) was taking the lead, winning more states/delegates, but with only a plurality of the vote. It wasn’t until Rubio dropped out, then later Cruz, that Trump’s ultimate win was becoming apparent and Kasich gave up his hope of a brokered convention. And each of those candidates had different lanes that they were appealing to.

In the Dem race, there’s the Socialist/Communist lane (Bernie) plus Warren, and Pete, Amy, Bloomberg, and Biden all fighting for the so-called “moderate” lane. Super Tuesday will be key, but if three of the most viable so-called “moderates“ are all getting some wins, it could turn this into a battle royale.

By the time someone starts to rise above out of the 3 to go head-to-head with Bernie, we could be very late into the primaries if not all the way to the convention.

The best case scenario for the Dems is to figure out ASAP who of the so-called “moderates” is going to win, then take on Bernie, which also could get ugly.
 

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70-75% of the party should never, and will not this cycle, be beholden to a radical 20-25% of the party.

Go form your own party.

If they have to rig it up, superdelegates or whatever, so that Sanders can’t win, well ... that’s where I’m at right now.
 

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We don't know anything except who has run out of money and dropped out before the morning of March 4th. Bloomberg has the big mo down here, Dropped hundreds of million already. Getting the big endorsements.
 

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70-75% of the party should never, and will not this cycle, be beholden to a radical 20-25% of the party.

Go form your own party.

If they have to rig it up, superdelegates or whatever, so that Sanders can’t win, well ... that’s where I’m at right now.
Bernie is the front runner. Yes- they will try and rig it and they will probably take Bernie out at the convention. Expect a riot. Good luck with the Bernie Bros. in the general election! :) :)
 

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I think Klobuchar can beat Trump just by being rational, moderate, and sane.

She's not an inspiring leader, but she's non-offensive which would have been enough for the Dems to win in 2016.
 

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Interesting take by Karl Rove. To paraphrase, the rise of Buttigieg and Klobuchar makes it more difficult for any Dem candidate to get enough delegates to win nomination prior to the convention if Sanders, Mayo Pete, Amy, and Bloomberg keep splitting up the delegates, not to mention whatever Biden and Warren get. Most, except Super Tuesday losers, will stay in the race into April.

That may seem like an obvious conclusion, but typically, even with the 2016 GOP primaries, the race was down to a few candidates, but one candidate (Trump) was taking the lead, winning more states/delegates, but with only a plurality of the vote. It wasn’t until Rubio dropped out, then later Cruz, that Trump’s ultimate win was becoming apparent and Kasich gave up his hope of a brokered convention. And each of those candidates had different lanes that they were appealing to.
The two primaries are structured differently. The GOP primary has had more winner-takes-all-delegates states and even a number of those that aren't reward proportionately more to the leader in votes. The Dem primary is mostly proportional. It's much harder to rack up a prohibitive delegate lead in the Democratic primaries.

Despite other negatives he may have, I do agree that Karl Rove is interesting when he's acting only as a political analyst.
 

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Biden is right about one thing: He cannot allow the media and a tiny segment of nearly all-white voters to pick the nominee of the Democratic Party. He and every other candidate should pledge to change the primary process going forward, but in the meantime, he can make clear that nonwhite voters are not obliged to follow the lead of New Hampshire and Iowa voters.
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This is especially significant given Biden’s role in leading the way on gay marriage. Likewise, the next time Sanders suggests that being a woman is an “obstacle” or a “problem” in the race, Biden must pounce. He should not allow the Democratic Party, which will likely rely on women for victory in November, to alienate more than half the electorate.
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The second role Biden can assume, if and when it appears he will not be the nominee, is to play the role of king- or queen-maker. He knows in his bones that Sanders — who has accomplished little or nothing legislatively in Congress despite his grand ideological pronouncements; whose foreign policy track is a nightmare; who cannot explain how to pay for his own grandiose Medicare-for-all plan; and who will chase away all those voters Biden courted in swing House races in 2018 — would effectively hand reelection to Trump. Whether the recipient of his nod is former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg, former South Bend, Ind., mayor Pete Buttigieg, Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) or someone else, Biden can call on his relationships in state and local government, in communities of color and in organized labor to get behind the most electable nominee before it is too late.

This should not be taken as an obituary for Biden; he should be given his chance to mount a comeback. But he must do so in a way that preserves the multiracial, multiethnic composition of the Democratic Party and ensure it will have the best chance possible to beat Trump.

 

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Biden explains that the cages Obama put children in were good cages....:)

 

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Good news howie, Amy is up to about a 5% chance of winning the nomination according to betting money.


The bad news is that Bloomberg fella that you said wouldn’t have an impact on the race is up to 33% chance of winning.

Your political instincts really suck Howie.

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Biden explains that the cages Obama put children in were good cages....:)

Yes, massive amounts of “8 year olds“ came “unaccompanied“ from Central America and Obama/Biden reunited them with relatives. O/B were just doing them a favor by putting them in the “cages”. It was an act of compassion. :rolleyes:
 

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Good news howie, Amy is up to about a 5% chance of winning the nomination according to betting money.


The bad news is that Bloomberg fella that you said wouldn’t have an impact on the race is up to 33% chance of winning.

Your political instincts really suck Howie.

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Betting odds aren’t based on what the bookmakers think is the true outcome.

They’re based on what the bookmakers think that the general public thinks is the true outcome.
 

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Yes, massive amounts of “8 year olds“ came “unaccompanied“ from Central America and Obama/Biden reunited them with relatives. O/B were just doing them a favor by putting them in the “cages”. It was an act of compassion. :rolleyes:
It’s pretty amazing the way he fires back at the audacity to question their policy. Ramos would never let an R get away with that.
I also love the policy of, here’s 750 million, which will temporarily halt immigration Great use of money.
 
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