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Gaffes everywhere. Between that and Pete saying Kobe was great on and off the field, it's looking like smooth sailing for Stable Genius "Perfect Call" Don.
Probably.

Come on howie, if Trump did this, you’d be demanding psychiatric evaluation.

It’s funny. Unless you’re an angry, grump pissed about your chances of knocking Trump out of the presidency.
 

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Probably.

Come on howie, if Trump did this, you’d be demanding psychiatric evaluation.

It’s funny. Unless you’re an angry, grump pissed about your chances of knocking Trump out of the presidency.
Are you watching his MAGA hate rally? Looks like he needs an evaluation.
 

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Gaffes everywhere. Between that and Pete saying Kobe was great on and off the field, it's looking like smooth sailing for Stable Genius "Perfect Call" Don.
Posts like this, which constitute 90% of your posts, could easily be applied to Trump. Your sarcastic lame posts are so ineffective at anything except venting your extreme anger. Long 5 years for you.
 

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I think it's refreshing for Ol' Joe to tell people to not vote for him. He cuts through the B.S. of other people trying to change his mind on issues.

Don't take half his day trying to talk to him if you already disagree with him and you have 8 other options not including Trump. If you are that strongly in favor of stopping illegal immigration or if you are that worried about pipelines, there are better choices.
 

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I think it's refreshing for Ol' Joe to tell people to not vote for him. He cuts through the B.S. of other people trying to change his mind on issues.

Don't take half his day trying to talk to him if you already disagree with him and you have 8 other options not including Trump. If you are that strongly in favor of stopping illegal immigration or if you are that worried about pipelines, there are better choices.
I actually think you make a good point. It is refreshing. It's annoying for voters to tell him: "you must support my policy" no actually I don't. You can vote for someone else. But Biden also comes off as cranky and tired and he's gotten into multiple sparring matches with people that isn't a great look.
 

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I actually think you make a good point. It is refreshing. It's annoying for voters to tell him: "you must support my policy" no actually I don't. You can vote for someone else. But Biden also comes off as cranky and tired and he's gotten into multiple sparring matches with people that isn't a great look.
Yeh. He seems to enjoy the arguments. All of these candidates are in front of cameras now and have high potential for gaffs.

It makes the most sense for Biden though who is generally not as extreme as most of the field, he probably gets the most wackos trying to tell him he's wrong, where most other candidates get a lot of head nodding.

People probably see he has some popularity and they want to leverage a popular candidate into their own policies vs leverage an unpopular candidate who they agree with.
 

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Yeh. He seems to enjoy the arguments. All of these candidates are in front of cameras now and have high potential for gaffs.

It makes the most sense for Biden though who is generally not as extreme as most of the field, he probably gets the most wackos trying to tell him he's wrong, where most other candidates get a lot of head nodding.

People probably see he has some popularity and they want to leverage a popular candidate into their own policies vs leverage an unpopular candidate who they agree with.
Of course, it's perfectly understandable. I would say the correct way is to explain your position and why you believe the way that you do. It's a great opportunity to sell your message. maybe he's done that a bunch and is sick of it and I guess I can't blame him.
 

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Klobuchar is polling well. Might finish in top 3.

If she beats Warren, I'm curious to see how long Warren hangs. Air is leaking out of her balloon right now.
 

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Klobuchar is polling well. Might finish in top 3.

If she beats Warren, I'm curious to see how long Warren hangs. Air is leaking out of her balloon right now.
That’s why Warren is promising to investigate the Trump administration’s “corruption”, otherwise known as the Endless Investigation. Never mind she can’t name what that “corruption“ is.
 

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Klobuchar is polling well. Might finish in top 3.

If she beats Warren, I'm curious to see how long Warren hangs. Air is leaking out of her balloon right now.
Pete seems to be fading too. What happens if Bernie is at like 20% and the others are all at 13-14% with the 15% threshold requirement? I guess it's unlikely given that Yang/Bloomberg etc. will have to go their 2nd choices. Oh and John Delaney's supporter too.
 

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Liz Warren is a political fraud. She has a "plan" to take all the money from insurance companies and give it to the poor in exchange for votes. And, when companies save money on these expensive health care benefits they no longer pay for and they pocket that savings, she will take it from them to pay for students going to crap colleges and being paid high school wages when they never graduate from those paper mills. Is that the way we want to go forward? Do we want a government made of run on sentences! I don't think so.
 

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Liz Warren is a political fraud. She has a "plan" to take all the money from insurance companies and give it to the poor in exchange for votes. And, when companies save money on these expensive health care benefits they no longer pay for and they pocket that savings, she will take it from them to pay for students going to crap colleges and being paid high school wages when they never graduate from those paper mills. Is that the way we want to go forward? Do we want a government made of run on sentences! I don't think so.
To be fair, she at least tries to show how she will pay for stuff, unlike Bernie who says "no one knows the cost" of his plan. Ugh.
 

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You have to admit, most politicians are not that dumb.
To be fair, I just don't think Joe's heart is in it. His positions have been pushed to areas he never believed in and he just doesn't think that well on his feet anymore. I'm not sure what his motivation for doing this unless he feels like his candidacy shields him and his family from further investigation.
 

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Liz Warren is a political fraud. She has a "plan" to take all the money from insurance companies and give it to the poor in exchange for votes. And, when companies save money on these expensive health care benefits they no longer pay for and they pocket that savings, she will take it from them to pay for students going to crap colleges and being paid high school wages when they never graduate from those paper mills. Is that the way we want to go forward? Do we want a government made of run on sentences! I don't think so.
Not your precious status quo of ripping people off for healthcare, to enrich a bunch of worthless PBM/insurance co middle men, whom you work so hard for!! I know it makes your gold plated heart sink.

Note: I don’t support MFA or free tuition for all. Just saying, your blind support for status quo in healthcare is abhorrent and you should feel ashamed.
 

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I'm not sure what his motivation for doing this
I could very easily see how he never wanted to run, but at the time was sold that he was the best hope to rip the evil out of the WH and save the country.

That still could be true, partly at least.
 

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Can anyone tell me who the Biden supporters are?

I understand who the Bernie and Yang people are.
The Tulsi people are the Republicans voting as Democrats who aren't Yang fans.

The Warren crowd I understand as well. They are like a democratic Bernie.

Mayor Pete is for the younger democrats (under 60). He seems intelligent, and reasonable, but he's starting to smell like Big money.

Klobuchar and Biden would be fighting over the traditional democrats. In that pool are the Biden voters the ones who are so scared of Trump, they believe Biden is the only one who can beat Trump and they believe Amy would lose to Trump?

From watching the debates, I think Amy has a cleaner past than Biden, and she's got youth on her side comparatively speaking. I would have voted Biden 4 years ago but at his age now, it seems like he shouldn't be tracking this well considering he's old, he's white, he's establishment, and he's wealthy.

He's essentially what most democrats don't want in a candidate.
 

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Not your precious status quo of ripping people off for healthcare, to enrich a bunch of worthless PBM/insurance co middle men, whom you work so hard for!! I know it makes your gold plated heart sink.

Note: I don’t support MFA or free tuition for all. Just saying, your blind support for status quo in healthcare is abhorrent and you should feel ashamed.
I don't work for the middle men. I am in allied health. You have been so wrong on this point for too long.
 

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Klobuchar is representing the moderate pretty well. She also has a voting record that screams "not bernie". Back when Republicans paid attention to that stuff, it would make the label of socialist on her a stupid political move. Not a lot of people willing to do research, so Bad continues to be correct. Socialist will be put on any candidate against Trump and it will be believed.
 

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I am in allied health.
Whoopty doo, the rest of what I said is exactly correct and therefore you should still feel ashamed.

Far too many people, who have nothing to do with providing healthcare and often don’t even directly affect care outcomes, are getting rich off human health.

Anything that provides major corrections to this rigged, false game, is correct and good.

(MFA goes too far, but the intentions are in the right place, ripping out excessive and extraneous revenue/profit streams that don’t (positively) affect care outcomes)
 

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Can anyone tell me who the Biden supporters are?

I understand who the Bernie and Yang people are.
The Tulsi people are the Republicans voting as Democrats who aren't Yang fans.

The Warren crowd I understand as well. They are like a democratic Bernie.

Mayor Pete is for the younger democrats (under 60). He seems intelligent, and reasonable, but he's starting to smell like Big money.

Klobuchar and Biden would be fighting over the traditional democrats. In that pool are the Biden voters the ones who are so scared of Trump, they believe Biden is the only one who can beat Trump and they believe Amy would lose to Trump?

From watching the debates, I think Amy has a cleaner past than Biden, and she's got youth on her side comparatively speaking. I would have voted Biden 4 years ago but at his age now, it seems like he shouldn't be tracking this well considering he's old, he's white, he's establishment, and he's wealthy.

He's essentially what most democrats don't want in a candidate.
I think most moderate Democats understand that Amy has no appeal or ability to win on a national level. Biden is known, has been VP, has name recognition and is a safe, status quo play for non-activist voters. Nobody really loves Biden. He is sort of the John McCain of Democrats. Many will recall that McCain's mother told Rs to hold their nose and vote McCain.
 

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Can anyone tell me who the Biden supporters are?

I understand who the Bernie and Yang people are.
The Tulsi people are the Republicans voting as Democrats who aren't Yang fans.

The Warren crowd I understand as well. They are like a democratic Bernie.

Mayor Pete is for the younger democrats (under 60). He seems intelligent, and reasonable, but he's starting to smell like Big money.

Klobuchar and Biden would be fighting over the traditional democrats. In that pool are the Biden voters the ones who are so scared of Trump, they believe Biden is the only one who can beat Trump and they believe Amy would lose to Trump?

From watching the debates, I think Amy has a cleaner past than Biden, and she's got youth on her side comparatively speaking. I would have voted Biden 4 years ago but at his age now, it seems like he shouldn't be tracking this well considering he's old, he's white, he's establishment, and he's wealthy.

He's essentially what most democrats don't want in a candidate.
Old Democrats overwhelmingly support Biden. Young Democrats overwhelmingly support Bernie. Everyone else is a mix.
 

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Can anyone tell me who the Biden supporters are?

I understand who the Bernie and Yang people are.
The Tulsi people are the Republicans voting as Democrats who aren't Yang fans.

The Warren crowd I understand as well. They are like a democratic Bernie.

Mayor Pete is for the younger democrats (under 60). He seems intelligent, and reasonable, but he's starting to smell like Big money.

Klobuchar and Biden would be fighting over the traditional democrats. In that pool are the Biden voters the ones who are so scared of Trump, they believe Biden is the only one who can beat Trump and they believe Amy would lose to Trump?

From watching the debates, I think Amy has a cleaner past than Biden, and she's got youth on her side comparatively speaking. I would have voted Biden 4 years ago but at his age now, it seems like he shouldn't be tracking this well considering he's old, he's white, he's establishment, and he's wealthy.

He's essentially what most democrats don't want in a candidate.
Blacks love Biden. They see him as the only true Obama heir. And they hate Pete, for some reason.

So also guessing anyone who still has a deep love for Obama, and doesn't have much time or will to research the candidates, may be picking Biden by default.


I really, truly think Biden did not want to run for president, and had his arm twisted into it with a sales job of "guy, come on, you're the only one who can save the country (and world) from Trump, you have to!"

Think he's starting to believe, or perhaps has for some time now, that he just isn't that guy or doesn't need to be that guy.
 
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