USA Today sues Nebraska over details of Scott Frost contract

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Either there were no "benchmarks" that Frost had to reach to not get fired after this year or the "benchmarks" were so easy to reach that their revelation would have evoked public scorn and ridicule.
Why else would the NE AD fight in court to keep them a secret when the rest of the details of Frost's new contract were made public?
All prior NE HCs were fired with better W/L records than Frost has.
I think that the NE AD has realized that the market for coaches that would want to come to NE is such that Frost is the best they could hope for.
Their 2022 schedule is really soft so there is little excuse for Frost to fail again.
 

Plato said:
Either there were no "benchmarks" that Frost had to reach to not get fired after this year or the "benchmarks" were so easy to reach that their revelation would have evoked public scorn and ridicule.
Why else would the NE AD fight in court to keep them a secret when the rest of the details of Frost's new contract were made public?
All prior NE HCs were fired with better W/L records than Frost has.
I think that the NE AD has realized that the market for coaches that would want to come to NE is such that Frost is the best they could hope for.
Their 2022 schedule is really soft so there is little excuse for Frost to fail again.
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Nebraska was ridiculously unlucky against a very tough schedule last year. Would have been pretty shorted-sighted to fire a coach that came within one score of knocking off 5 ranked teams. If the wind was blowing a different direction then the story of their season would have been totally different.
 

hello-world said:
Nebraska was ridiculously unlucky against a very tough schedule last year. Would have been pretty shorted-sighted to fire a coach that came within one score of knocking off 5 ranked teams. If the wind was blowing a different direction then the story of their season would have been totally different.
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I don’t buy this. Over the course of 12 games you are what you are. They pissed down their leg over and over again in the 2nd half of games. With a bit more luck maybe they win 2-3 more games and finish 6-6 in Frost’s 4th year. Still not what where they thought they’d be when they hired him 5 years ago.
 


hello-world said:
Nebraska was ridiculously unlucky against a very tough schedule last year. Would have been pretty shorted-sighted to fire a coach that came within one score of knocking off 5 ranked teams. If the wind was blowing a different direction then the story of their season would have been totally different.
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Losing close games doesn’t make you unlucky.
Winning close games is a skill not happenstance


Teams that join the schedule this year
Rutgers
Indiana
Georgia southern
North Dakota

Teams that left the schedule from last year
Forham
Buffalo
Michigan state
Ohio state

2/3 of their wins from last year are leaving the schedule.
But yes easier schedule to go 5-7 against than last years
 

hello-world said:
Nebraska was ridiculously unlucky against a very tough schedule last year. Would have been pretty shorted-sighted to fire a coach that came within one score of knocking off 5 ranked teams. If the wind was blowing a different direction then the story of their season would have been totally different.
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They should hang a banner for being the best 3-9 team in NCAA football history.
 

I like how the media within NE knows better than to ask any questions. It’s a death sentence for access if you challenge the regime. Alvarez was the same way
 

hello-world said:
Nebraska was ridiculously unlucky against a very tough schedule last year. Would have been pretty shorted-sighted to fire a coach that came within one score of knocking off 5 ranked teams. If the wind was blowing a different direction then the story of their season would have been totally different.
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If they had been good in previous years under Frost I would maybe buy this take. But his best year was losing a bunch of close games…HIS BEST
 



Some guy said:
Losing close games doesn’t make you unlucky.
Winning close games is a skill not happenstance


Teams that join the schedule this year
Rutgers
Indiana
Georgia southern
North Dakota

Teams that left the schedule from last year
Forham
Buffalo
Michigan state
Ohio state

2/3 of their wins from last year are leaving the schedule.
But yes easier schedule to go 5-7 against than last years
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The team that played better doesn't win every game. Outcomes of close games are just as often luck as skill. Blair Walsh missing a chip shot was unlucky. Minnesota not moving the ball two yards against Michigan in 2015 was unlucky. Winfield intercepting Fresno on the last play of the game two years in a row was lucky. If a game is close (and sometimes even if it's not), then luck plays a role in the outcome.

It's just one measurement, but Bill Connelly keeps track of something called second-order wins where he determines the probability of a team winning a game, given how they played, versus the actual score. By that metric, Nebraska was the second-to-least-lucky team since he started tracking it in 2005 and their record understated their on-the-field performance by 3.8 wins.

Say Nebraska has average luck last year. That means they win seven games seven games against what was a brutal schedule (maybe even eight if you count the bowl game). They would be the odds-on favorite to win the B1G West this year.
 

hello-world said:
The team that played better doesn't win every game. Outcomes of close games are just as often luck as skill. Blair Walsh missing a chip shot was unlucky. Minnesota not moving the ball two yards against Michigan in 2015 was unlucky. Winfield intercepting Fresno on the last play of the game two years in a row was lucky. If a game is close (and sometimes even if it's not), then luck plays a role in the outcome.

It's just one measurement, but Bill Connelly keeps track of something called second-order wins where he determines the probability of a team winning a game, given how they played, versus the actual score. By that metric, Nebraska was the second-to-least-lucky team since he started tracking it in 2005 and their record understated their on-the-field performance by 3.8 wins.

Say Nebraska has average luck last year. That means they win seven games seven games against what was a brutal schedule (maybe even eight if you count the bowl game). They would be the odds-on favorite to win the B1G West this year.
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Nebraska just happened to be unlucky in 29 of the last 44 games I guess.

Say Nebraska isn’t soft as shit. They win 7 games last year



A great player making a great play isn’t luck. A soft team laying down in the 4th quarter isn’t bad luck.
Sorry.
 

hello-world said:
The team that played better doesn't win every game. Outcomes of close games are just as often luck as skill. Blair Walsh missing a chip shot was unlucky. Minnesota not moving the ball two yards against Michigan in 2015 was unlucky. Winfield intercepting Fresno on the last play of the game two years in a row was lucky. If a game is close (and sometimes even if it's not), then luck plays a role in the outcome.

It's just one measurement, but Bill Connelly keeps track of something called second-order wins where he determines the probability of a team winning a game, given how they played, versus the actual score. By that metric, Nebraska was the second-to-least-lucky team since he started tracking it in 2005 and their record understated their on-the-field performance by 3.8 wins.

Say Nebraska has average luck last year. That means they win seven games seven games against what was a brutal schedule (maybe even eight if you count the bowl game). They would be the odds-on favorite to win the B1G West this year.
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Wind blew the wrong way........allowing the Hawkeyes to outscore Nebraska 19-0 in the 4th quarter this past season. That's just bad luck. This is actually a real good 3-9 team! But don't ask me. Ask Bo Pelini.
 

Neb 2021 results, going purely by final scores and taking nothing else into account):

Blow out wins: 2 (Fordham +45, NW +49)
Comfortable wins: 1 (Buffalo +25)

Respectable losses: 1 (Ohio St -9)
Within 1TD losses: 6 (@ILL -8, @OU -7, @MN -7, Pur -5, @Wisc -7, Iowa -7)
Within 1FG losses: 2 (@Mich St -3 in OT, Mich -3)


I can only accept that "bad luck" would reasonably be a significant factor in the games they lost within 1 FG. The games where it would've taken a TD (plus possibly a 2XP), I just conclude that the better team won.

There are always weird bounces and calls, and almost always go against both teams multiple times in a game. Taking advantage of short fields on offense and getting stops against long yards to gain a first down on defense, is part of being a good team.
 



Gophers_4life said:
Neb 2021 results, going purely by final scores and taking nothing else into account):

Blow out wins: 2 (Fordham +45, NW +49)
Comfortable wins: 1 (Buffalo +25)

Respectable losses: 1 (Ohio St -9)
Within 1TD losses: 6 (@ILL -8, @OU -7, @MN -7, Pur -5, @Wisc -7, Iowa -7)
Within 1FG losses: 2 (@Mich St -3 in OT, Mich -3)


I can only accept that "bad luck" would reasonably be a significant factor in the games they lost within 1 FG. The games where it would've taken a TD (plus possibly a 2XP), I just conclude that the better team won.

There are always weird bounces and calls, and almost always go against both teams multiple times in a game. Taking advantage of short fields on offense and getting stops against long yards to gain a first down on defense, is part of being a good team.
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I’m sure they had some bad luck. But every team in the country has bad luck

Like Iowa game. Is getting out gained by 10% bad luck?
Nebraska scored a touchdown to go up 21-6

From that point they got out scored 22-0
From that point they got out gained 170-81
Even if you consider bad special teams simply bad luck…they still got their butts whipped.
And bad special teams isn’t bad luck, it’s bad skill
 

hello-world you are clearly obsessed with Nebraska! Let's talk about the contract instead as to what this thread is supposed to be about. Otherwise, let's get back to the Gophers as this is a Gopher Board not a corn board.
 

Said this many times before. A win is a win and a loss is a loss.

Frost is 15-29 at Nebraska and best finish is 5th in the west.
 



hello-world said:
The team that played better doesn't win every game. Outcomes of close games are just as often luck as skill. Blair Walsh missing a chip shot was unlucky. Minnesota not moving the ball two yards against Michigan in 2015 was unlucky. Winfield intercepting Fresno on the last play of the game two years in a row was lucky. If a game is close (and sometimes even if it's not), then luck plays a role in the outcome.

It's just one measurement, but Bill Connelly keeps track of something called second-order wins where he determines the probability of a team winning a game, given how they played, versus the actual score. By that metric, Nebraska was the second-to-least-lucky team since he started tracking it in 2005 and their record understated their on-the-field performance by 3.8 wins.

Say Nebraska has average luck last year. That means they win seven games seven games against what was a brutal schedule (maybe even eight if you count the bowl game). They would be the odds-on favorite to win the B1G West this year.
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You have a lot of man love for Frost.
He had to take 15 players from the transfer portal to fill gaps in the offense and defense because of poor recruiting and a very large number of his recruits leaving for greener pastures.
Since NE has been in the BIG all of the prior fired coaches had better records than Frost has.
Alberts must have put feelers out and found that no one that would have been better than Frost wanted the job and Frost's payout was too steep for the deep pockets of NE donors.
 

hello-world said:
The team that played better doesn't win every game. Outcomes of close games are just as often luck as skill. Blair Walsh missing a chip shot was unlucky. Minnesota not moving the ball two yards against Michigan in 2015 was unlucky. Winfield intercepting Fresno on the last play of the game two years in a row was lucky. If a game is close (and sometimes even if it's not), then luck plays a role in the outcome.

It's just one measurement, but Bill Connelly keeps track of something called second-order wins where he determines the probability of a team winning a game, given how they played, versus the actual score. By that metric, Nebraska was the second-to-least-lucky team since he started tracking it in 2005 and their record understated their on-the-field performance by 3.8 wins.

Say Nebraska has average luck last year. That means they win seven games seven games against what was a brutal schedule (maybe even eight if you count the bowl game). They would be the odds-on favorite to win the B1G West this year.
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Good teams win close games, bad teams loss close games
 

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