LOL. Right Wingers in America have spent the last 25 years doing everything they can to destroy the UN and everything it represents. Now they are complaining when UN troops aren't there to bail America out of a no-win situation of its' own making. No one should ever forget that this entire fiasco in the Middle East wouldn't be happening if Bush and Cheney hadn't lied about WMD to start an unwinnable war in Iraq that has spread over almost the entire Middle East. Couple that with America's total abandonment of the Palestinians in favor of Israel and it now has become a war our grandchildren and their grandchildren will have to fight. American troops aren't leaving the Middle East anytime soon. Maybe not ever.Where is the U.N.? If the total U.S. troops only numbered less than 1500, none of which were combat troops, why couldn't the U.N. replace them?
Pretty much what we all knew. Done on a whim by a stable genius.Fox News’ National Security Correspondent Jennifer Griffin reported on Wednesday that sources told her President Donald Trump “went off script” during his call with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and “essentially greenlighted” Turkey’s military operation in Northern Syria
Live from the Pentagon, Griffin declared, “I’m told by well-placed sources that the president ‘went off script’ from what his national security team gave him as talking points in his phone conversation with the Turkish president.”
“Shock continues to reverberate through the U.S. military that the White House essentially greenlighted this Turkish operation during that conversation. As one senior military source put it to me, ‘A lot of people will die. A complete withdrawal of U.S. forces from Syria is now all but assured,'” she continued, adding, “Sources also tell Fox the Turkish operation is much broader than originally believed, far wider, far deeper than expected.”
Kurdish held towns are now subject to random bombardment by Turkish artillery. Non combatants are experiencing heavy casualties and major buildings are being crumbled. I'll tell you what is strategic about this type of attack: winter. Winter will end up killing thousands more as the Turks have crippled the shelters for thousands of people in Syria. It is genocide pure and simple.I’m willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt on this move, but I also believe that it could end up with unintended consequences. Hopefully, Turkey will honor its commitment not to destroy the Kurds, and Trump has threatened to take it out on Turkey economically if they do. I do feel for the Kurds b/c they sacrificed many lives fighting ISIS, but it’s not like they haven’t benefited from the US at great costs to us either, primarily by defeating Saddam Hussein.
Honestly though, I think this is more about a campaign promise than strategic thinking, b/c Trump hasn’t had much to point at as far as reducing military presence in foreign conflicts. It may end up costing us more later if ISIS is reconstituted or greater turmoil drags us back into the region under more difficult circumstances.
“The Kurds are fighting for their land,” Trump told reporters at the White House during an event in the Roosevelt Room.
“And as somebody wrote in a very, very powerful article today, they didn’t help us in the second World War, they didn’t help us with Normandy as an example. They mentioned names of different battles. But they’re there to help us with their land and that’s a different thing.”
Lets not pretend the US had anything to do with taking out ISIS. That was all Russia, Syria, and Iran. Instead, we were propping up ISISHaven’t read this thread the last couple days, but I have a queasy feeling about how this is going down.
I understand the desire to get out of the middle of these conflicts, but our departure may cost a lot of Kurds lives. I don’t trust Erdogan.
I do think that Congress should step up and authorize military actions if all they’re going to do is complain about Trump’s withdrawal.
It’s early yet, but I think Trump may have handled this departure wrong. I said before, I think it’s more about campaign promises than strategic thinking.
I’m very concern about what’s going to happen to these ISIS POWs. We might be back there fighting again without the support of Kurds next time.
That's deep. The Kurds didn't defend our airports during the Revolutionary War either. Maybe they deserve this.