Rutgers has fired Chris Ash

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Not sure why the timing.
Everyone and their mother could’ve told you Rutgers would suck this year and probably be 1-3.
Including ash

So when the team achieves as you expect...why wouldn’t you either wait until game 12 OR fire him at the end of last season?
What changed this week compared to before Labor Day?
 

Pompous Elitist

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4:10 too funny

Those looks of pain and confusion are classic, but I didn’t see any laying down on the field so there’s that.
 

MnplsGopher

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Not sure why the timing.
Everyone and their mother could’ve told you Rutgers would suck this year and probably be 1-3.
Including ash

So when the team achieves as you expect...why wouldn’t you either wait until game 12 OR fire him at the end of last season?
What changed this week compared to before Labor Day?
I guess they hope it gets prospective coaches interested in the program earlier?
 

MnplsGopher

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Or maybe it was just too much to get crushed by a Michigan team that just gave a limp-___ effort against Wisconsin the week before. The straw that broke the camel's back?
 

MNinsider

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Bruce Feldman from The Athletic:
"Two wild-card options are Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck and Mississippi State’s Joe Moorhead.

Fleck, 38, spent two seasons as Rutgers’ wide receiver coach (2010-11) and also went with Schiano to Tampa Bay. A dogged recruiter, Fleck already has done a lot of heavy lifting in getting the Gophers cranked up. In addition, Minnesota is in the much, much more favorable side of the Big Ten as a member of the West Division. While his buyout isn’t huge, it seems like a long shot that he’d be tempted by Rutgers."

https://theathletic.com/1251753/2019/09/29/rutgers-scarlet-knights-head-coaching-candidates/
 

Face The Facts

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Bruce Feldman from The Athletic:
"Two wild-card options are Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck and Mississippi State’s Joe Moorhead.

Fleck, 38, spent two seasons as Rutgers’ wide receiver coach (2010-11) and also went with Schiano to Tampa Bay. A dogged recruiter, Fleck already has done a lot of heavy lifting in getting the Gophers cranked up. In addition, Minnesota is in the much, much more favorable side of the Big Ten as a member of the West Division. While his buyout isn’t huge, it seems like a long shot that he’d be tempted by Rutgers."

https://theathletic.com/1251753/2019/09/29/rutgers-scarlet-knights-head-coaching-candidates/

The timing of a Fleck change after this year would seem really odd.
Also, going to Rutgers to face MSU, PSU, OSU, and Michigan would seem like a really odd move.
Also, from a family standpoint, doubt Heather would want to move to Jersey.

There are other schools I'd find as way more likely choices.
 

Bob_Loblaw

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He has zero desire. He's doing exactly what he wants to do.

You might have noticed, they lost to Clemson on a bone-head decision to go for a 2pt conversion. Nonetheless, he wants to try to build up UNC to a Clemson level program.
You didn't like that call?

I actually thought it was the right call for UNC. I think they had about a 50/50 chance to pick up those yards. I don't think they would have had a 50/50 chance in OT. I think Mack Brown is right, the longer the game lasts, the more likely the best team wins.
 

MnplsGopher

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You didn't like that call?

I actually thought it was the right call for UNC. I think they had about a 50/50 chance to pick up those yards. I don't think they would have had a 50/50 chance in OT. I think Mack Brown is right, the longer the game lasts, the more likely the best team wins.
Fair enough. Could be correct.

At the time though, I guarantee I would've kicked the PAT and gone to OT.
 

MNinsider

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The timing of a Fleck change after this year would seem really odd.
Also, going to Rutgers to face MSU, PSU, OSU, and Michigan would seem like a really odd move.
Also, from a family standpoint, doubt Heather would want to move to Jersey.

There are other schools I'd find as way more likely choices.
Yes, I was quite surprised to see Fleck's name pop up. I certainly do not think this is a move Fleck would make. But I wanted to post as it does pertain to the Gophers.
 

Airguard6

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You didn't like that call?

I actually thought it was the right call for UNC. I think they had about a 50/50 chance to pick up those yards. I don't think they would have had a 50/50 chance in OT. I think Mack Brown is right, the longer the game lasts, the more likely the best team wins.
Fleck said the same thing after the Fresno St. game. He said he was ok with it going into OT because he figured he had the better team and the longer the game drew out the more likely it would be that MN would win.
 

salzie

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You didn't like that call?

I actually thought it was the right call for UNC. I think they had about a 50/50 chance to pick up those yards. I don't think they would have had a 50/50 chance in OT. I think Mack Brown is right, the longer the game lasts, the more likely the best team wins.

Agreed, I think if you're underdog, go for 2 in that scenario
 

stocker08

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Bruce Feldman from The Athletic:
"Two wild-card options are Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck and Mississippi State’s Joe Moorhead.

Fleck, 38, spent two seasons as Rutgers’ wide receiver coach (2010-11) and also went with Schiano to Tampa Bay. A dogged recruiter, Fleck already has done a lot of heavy lifting in getting the Gophers cranked up. In addition, Minnesota is in the much, much more favorable side of the Big Ten as a member of the West Division. While his buyout isn’t huge, it seems like a long shot that he’d be tempted by Rutgers."

https://theathletic.com/1251753/2019/09/29/rutgers-scarlet-knights-head-coaching-candidates/
Wild is right. What possible draw could Rutgers have for Fleck over where he is right now? The fact that he was a WR coach there for two seasons? He's on his third season as our head coach.

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salzie

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Wild is right. What possible draw could Rutgers have for Fleck over where he is right now? The fact that he was a WR coach there for two seasons? He's on his third season as our head coach.

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Fleck leaving for rutgers is not even on my radar as far as concern goes
 

MnplsGopher

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I don't think it's about money. He makes great money here, for the area, and lives very well here.

I think it would have to be a generational opportunity at a nationally recognized program, to get him to move. Alabama, or something like that. I could be realistically worried about a place like Michigan, which might consider him if he turns Minnesota into a 10/11 win conf champion in the next few years.
 

PMWinSTP

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Bruce Feldman from The Athletic:
"Two wild-card options are Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck and Mississippi State’s Joe Moorhead.

Fleck, 38, spent two seasons as Rutgers’ wide receiver coach (2010-11) and also went with Schiano to Tampa Bay. A dogged recruiter, Fleck already has done a lot of heavy lifting in getting the Gophers cranked up. In addition, Minnesota is in the much, much more favorable side of the Big Ten as a member of the West Division. While his buyout isn’t huge, it seems like a long shot that he’d be tempted by Rutgers."

https://theathletic.com/1251753/2019/09/29/rutgers-scarlet-knights-head-coaching-candidates/
Question I have is does Coyle panic and throw more money at Fleck?
 
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