Richard Pitino: P.J. Fleck is Doing a ‘phenomenal’ Job with Gophers Football

builtbadgers

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Two NCAA appearances are not a lack of success... And last year's 6-6, just make a bowl game, is not overwhelmingly successful for PJ.

We can all spin things. Both of our coaches have a bright future.
40-70 is a lack of success. Iam still all in but need to see a bunch of 13-7 seasons to see that we actually earn a top 25 program status level. I would call that a success. If we get to year 10 without a conference title, even one , i would not call it a success. I also never compare it to football. Football is much more difficult to build a power. In hoops i have a dozen examples of guys that built really good programs, some of those elite. Of course it goes back to how each person defines elite, success and so on. In my world,40-70 is miles away from good. Hell, i think .500 is average. Elite is conference titles, multiple. Big winning numbers in the tournament, final 4, national title. All of that is just me. Not mocking anyone else for thinking 9-11 is really good.
 

alchemy2u

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40-70 is a lack of success. Iam still all in but need to see a bunch of 13-7 seasons to see that we actually earn a top 25 program status level. I would call that a success. If we get to year 10 without a conference title, even one , i would not call it a success. I also never compare it to football. Football is much more difficult to build a power. In hoops i have a dozen examples of guys that built really good programs, some of those elite. Of course it goes back to how each person defines elite, success and so on. In my world,40-70 is miles away from good. Hell, i think .500 is average. Elite is conference titles, multiple. Big winning numbers in the tournament, final 4, national title. All of that is just me. Not mocking anyone else for thinking 9-11 is really good.
Oh, oh..........here we go!
 

BarnBurner

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40-70 is a lack of success. Iam still all in but need to see a bunch of 13-7 seasons to see that we actually earn a top 25 program status level. I would call that a success. If we get to year 10 without a conference title, even one , i would not call it a success. I also never compare it to football. Football is much more difficult to build a power. In hoops i have a dozen examples of guys that built really good programs, some of those elite. Of course it goes back to how each person defines elite, success and so on. In my world,40-70 is miles away from good. Hell, i think .500 is average. Elite is conference titles, multiple. Big winning numbers in the tournament, final 4, national title. All of that is just me. Not mocking anyone else for thinking 9-11 is really good.
DID YOU KNOW RICHARD PITINO HAS 40 WINS AND 70 LOSSES WHILE COACHING IN THE BIG 10??????

DID YOU KNOW BUILT DEFINES THAT RECORD AS A LACK OF SUCCESS???
 

builtbadgers

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Your lying again. I have pointed out on several occasions what i think he has done well. Compliments for great game plans in many games, win or lose. Said this is the best staff he has put together, said recruiting is a strength. Have posted this many times. Simply not interested in only handing out praise like he is some sort of coaching superstar without actual proof. I hope he proves it to me by having big time conference records, conference titles, final 4's. He has actually had higher ranked classes than programs that got those things done. Oh yes, those programs also had horrific injuries.
 

BarnBurner

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Your lying again. I have pointed out on several occasions what i think he has done well. Compliments for great game plans in many games, win or lose. Said this is the best staff he has put together, said recruiting is a strength. Have posted this many times. Simply not interested in only handing out praise like he is some sort of coaching superstar without actual proof. I hope he proves it to me by having big time conference records, conference titles, final 4's. He has actually had higher ranked classes than programs that got those things done. Oh yes, those programs also had horrific injuries.
Nope, the only one being dishonest is you, built. You cant help yourself from taking shot after shot.

How many of your posts recite RP's conference record? Why do you feel the need to repeat it darn near daily? Do you get paid for posting it?
 

builtbadgers

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Nope, the only one being dishonest is you, built. You cant help yourself from taking shot after shot.

How many of your posts recite RP's conference record? Why do you feel the need to repeat it darn near daily? Do you get paid for posting it?
You put caps on at EVERY TURN. Simply not true and you ignore the positive things i take note of. Always say it is my opinion. If you do not like it, do not read it.
 

BarnBurner

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You put caps on at EVERY TURN. Simply not true and you ignore the positive things i take note of. Always say it is my opinion. If you do not like it, do not read it.
How many of your posts recite RP's conference record? Why do you feel the need to repeat it darn near daily? Do you get paid for posting it?
 

John Galt

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I, for one, am really high on all of our programs right now. I was a Fleck doubter, but he's changed my mind. Glad to be wrong about him. As far as Pitino, I wasn't sold on him until after his first season. Realized he was a clear upgrade over Tubby Smith. Since then, Pitino has shown he can field a Top 15 program if things go our way. To me, that says a lot about Pitino's capabilities. Really happy with both programs (and all the other Gophers teams for that matter)
Given that we have never had a top 15 team, what does this even mean?
 

alchemy2u

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You have your opinion, i have mine.
We know, you keep telling us every time someone gives praise to Pitino.

I was just responding to a generic claim that Pitino is not having success at the U. We always want better and expect improvements, but getting to the tourney 2 of the last three years is not chopped liver. I did not say he was the best coach in the history of the game. Throw the guy a bone!


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Keyser Söze

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40-70 is a lack of success. Iam still all in but need to see a bunch of 13-7 seasons to see that we actually earn a top 25 program status level. I would call that a success. If we get to year 10 without a conference title, even one , i would not call it a success. I also never compare it to football. Football is much more difficult to build a power. In hoops i have a dozen examples of guys that built really good programs, some of those elite. Of course it goes back to how each person defines elite, success and so on. In my world,40-70 is miles away from good. Hell, i think .500 is average. Elite is conference titles, multiple. Big winning numbers in the tournament, final 4, national title. All of that is just me. Not mocking anyone else for thinking 9-11 is really good.
No need to worry. There isn't a single person who thinks 9-11 is really good, so there is no one to mock.
 

builtbadgers

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We know, you keep telling us every time someone gives praise to Pitino.

I was just responding to a generic claim that Pitino is not having success at the U. We always want better and expect improvements, but getting to the tourney 2 of the last three years is not chopped liver. I did not say he was the best coach in the history of the game. Throw the guy a bone!


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Have noted dozens of times when i see fit.
 

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