Georgia Tech receives postseason ban for 2019-20

OSUfan

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Amazing how so many top Duke players are in the news for recruiting violations and yet Coach K continues to dodge his well-deserved comeuppance.
 

coolhandgopher

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Amazing how so many top Duke players are in the news for recruiting violations and yet Coach K continues to dodge his well-deserved comeuppance.
One wonders if the coach who follows K will face the additional difficulty of suffering sanctions due to the sins of the hallowed regime (similar to UCLA post-Wooden/Sam Gilbert era)

The only shocking part is that Pastner got in and out of Memphis without this type of penalty.

Agreed, and you have to wonder how short his leash now is. Minimal results and now a dirty program designation.

I contended years ago, while I was enmeshed in The Wire, that college basketball is ripe for a David Simon like HBO series on the dirty machinations in the game. And since then, the scandals at UNC, Arizona, Duke's name being sullied a bit with the FBI sneaker probe...still would love to see someone take this on.
 

WindyCityGopher

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One wonders if the coach who follows K will face the additional difficulty of suffering sanctions due to the sins of the hallowed regime (similar to UCLA post-Wooden/Sam Gilbert era)

The only shocking part is that Pastner got in and out of Memphis without this type of penalty.

Agreed, and you have to wonder how short his leash now is. Minimal results and now a dirty program designation.

I contended years ago, while I was enmeshed in The Wire, that college basketball is ripe for a David Simon like HBO series on the dirty machinations in the game. And since then, the scandals at UNC, Arizona, Duke's name being sullied a bit with the FBI sneaker probe...still would love to see someone take this on.
The Deuce just wrapped its last season so Mr. Simon is likely looking for a new project. Put a treatment together and see if he bites.
 

BarnBurner

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Amazing how so many top Duke players are in the news for recruiting violations and yet Coach K continues to dodge his well-deserved comeuppance.
Coach k is one of the best. Ask built.

Duke never cheats. Ask Will Avery and Corey Magette
 
If you are going to bend the rules it is best to do it with an army of lawyers that are finding creative loopholes and leveraging plausible deniability on behalf of the coach.
 

alchemy2u

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If you are going to bend the rules it is best to do it with an army of lawyers that are finding creative loopholes and leveraging plausible deniability on behalf of the coach.
It is even better to have the character and integrity to not do it at

What every happen to not doing something because it is wrong, instead of just because you won’t get caught!


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It is even better to have the character and integrity to not do it at

What every happen to not doing something because it is wrong, instead of just because you won’t get caught!


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Spending time finding a loophole is not wrong. Plenty of coaches with character and integrity but have found a way to get around the spirit of the law by focusing on the letter of the law. What you don't want is a coach that is stupid and reckless with the rules - like hiring a tutor and letting them do the work for the student - that will get them in hot water. Finding some way to accomplish the same goal by referencing some obscure rule or existing NCAA gray area just means that the NCAA will someday find out and close that loophole for everyone.
 

alchemy2u

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Spending time finding a loophole is not wrong. Plenty of coaches with character and integrity but have found a way to get around the spirit of the law by focusing on the letter of the law. What you don't want is a coach that is stupid and reckless with the rules - like hiring a tutor and letting them do the work for the student - that will get them in hot water. Finding some way to accomplish the same goal by referencing some obscure rule or existing NCAA gray area just means that the NCAA will someday find out and close that loophole for everyone.
I disagree. If it is something that is fundamentally wrong and goes against the intent of the law, it doesn't make it right just because you found a "loophole" that lets you get away with it. Of course there may be some "unintended" areas that allow you have an advantage, like when NC State would go into the stall to slow down high powered teams. Like in life, I am a firm believer that you do not need a law to tell you what is right or wrong, some feel that if it isn't against the law then it is OK.
 
I disagree. If it is something that is fundamentally wrong and goes against the intent of the law, it doesn't make it right just because you found a "loophole" that lets you get away with it. Of course there may be some "unintended" areas that allow you have an advantage, like when NC State would go into the stall to slow down high powered teams. Like in life, I am a firm believer that you do not need a law to tell you what is right or wrong, some feel that if it isn't against the law then it is OK.
You're the one guy on the planet that tells your CPA - "no, no, lets not take that tax deduction, I am a firm believer we should pay tax on that one because I know right and wrong and we should not be able to get away with a loophole" LOL sure you are.
 
I disagree. If it is something that is fundamentally wrong and goes against the intent of the law, it doesn't make it right just because you found a "loophole" that lets you get away with it. Of course there may be some "unintended" areas that allow you have an advantage, like when NC State would go into the stall to slow down high powered teams. Like in life, I am a firm believer that you do not need a law to tell you what is right or wrong, some feel that if it isn't against the law then it is OK.
Agreed, we have the law written on our heart and our conscience bears witness to it, so no, we do not need a law to know what is right and wrong.
 
Agreed, we have the law written on our heart and our conscience bears witness to it, so no, we do not need a law to know what is right and wrong.
Agreed on the law written on our hearts - Romans 2:15 but not sure how this relates to a business agreement by two nonprofit entities. I guess you are saying that Coyle, Pitino and company should the NCAA member institution agreement, bylaws, and updated compliance rules written on their hearts so that their conscience bears witness?

How about demanding that they work under U of M guidelines and the NCAA and maximize the flexibility to the team while minimizing the any risk or in other words "walk up to the line but never cross it"?
 

alchemy2u

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You're the one guy on the planet that tells your CPA - "no, no, lets not take that tax deduction, I am a firm believer we should pay tax on that one because I know right and wrong and we should not be able to get away with a loophole" LOL sure you are.
That is not my point. I didn’t say you take free throws from 2 feet further back because you think it is too easy. I am talking about not lying on my charitable contributions because they will never check and I won’t get caught. Or telling the checkout clerk that they missed an item on the bill. It has nothing to do with religion.


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