Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby meets with Pac-12’s George Kliavkoff: Sources

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Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby met with new Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff on Tuesday, multiple sources told The Athletic.

Their meeting is expected to be a key first step in talks about whether the two conferences would benefit from strategically working together during college sports’ new phase of realignment.

Kliavkoff was unavailable for comment. Bowlsby and the Big 12 declined comment.

Discussions on a pact between the two could go in several different directions. One option would be a scheduling alliance between Big 12 and Pac-12 members. Bowlsby acknowledged this possibility on Monday during his appearance at a Texas Senate committee meeting on the future of college sports in Texas. Pursuing a merger with another conference is another possibility.

“I think there are options for us to partner with other conferences,” Bowlsby said Monday. “There may be opportunity for mergers. There may be opportunities to add members. There may be other opportunities that are currently unforeseen.”

One other possible solution Bowlsby floated while appearing for the committee in Austin on Monday would be the Big 12 working with another conference to aggregate their negotiating rights for the next TV deal.

“At this point, all options are on the table and nothing is a bad option,” one Big 12 source said. “We have to explore everything now. It’s not that we’re in panic mode, but let’s keep talking and keep finding out what’s out there.”

Another Big 12 source expected the Bowlsby-Kliavkoff meeting to be more of an “information download” for the Pac-12’s new commissioner to gain a better sense of what the Big 12’s eight remaining members can bring to the table.

“Time is our friend right now, so it’s not like something has to happen by Sept. 1,” the source said. “It’s a matter of starting to work through this and see what it looks like. We’ve got a runway.”

Bowlsby said Monday that these types of partnership opportunities must be explored before the Big 12 would shift its focus to expansion as the answer to replacing Texas and Oklahoma when the two schools exit the conference.

“We haven’t had formal conversations on candidate members,” Bowlsby said. “We think there’s a sequence at which we need to act, and that includes some of the collaborations that I mentioned earlier.”

The Big 12 is estimating the loss of Texas and Oklahoma will mean roughly a 50 percent reduction in the value of its TV rights for its next deal, if not more. While bringing successful Group of 5 members into the Big 12 would help make up for some of that loss, there’s no one or two obtainable expansion candidates that can come close to fully replacing what the conference is losing.

For that reason, an alliance with the Pac-12 might be a more attractive alternative to pitch to their TV partners. The Pac-12’s rights deal expires in 2024, while the Big 12’s contract expires in 2025. At this point, though, it’s unclear whether a scheduling alliance is considered an appealing option to Pac-12 leadership.

“It’s going to come down to how do our TV partners look at that from a financial perspective, and who knows?” a source said.

A partnership with the Pac-12 would create obvious travel challenges for West Virginia as the lone East Coast member of the Big 12, but one source said the school’s leaders have not objected to Bowlsby exploring these possibilities if they can help maintain Power 5 status and provide financial security.

Such a move, if achievable, would seriously stabilize the Big 12 and would help the Pac-12 as well. Kliavkoff inherited a number of issues in accepting his new role, including a concerning financial gap the Pac-12 faces relative to the SEC and the Big Ten.

Kliavkoff, whose first day on the job was July 1, has said he’s currently in “listening mode” as he tries to assess and forecast the landscape for his membership during these uncertain times. At Pac-12 media day last week, he acknowledged his conference had already received “significant inbound interest” from schools seeking membership. He has called the concept of scheduling alliances an interesting opportunity that is under discussion, though more speculation up to this point has centered on the Pac-12 aligning with the Big Ten.

All these possibilities merit consideration as the rest of the Power 5 conferences work to determine how they’ll respond to and keep up with the SEC’s expansion move. By working together, the Big 12 and Pac-12 could help each other hold off other conferences from attempting to poach their more valuable members.

“This is going to make for some very strange bedfellows going forward,” Bowlsby said on Monday. “These are unprecedented challenges.”

The Athletic’s Bruce Feldman contributed reporting.
 

Can you imagine being Kevin Warren? Becomes conference commissioner just in time for Covid and now this major shake up? Brutal. What’s his next move in this whole thing? Convince notre dame to join?
 

Honestly I think Warren is just waiting and letting interested parties come to him. Sounds like Texas and OK to the SEC was a done deal, so a move like counter offering wasn't really going to change anything.

By waiting and letting people come to them, the Pac-12 and the B1G hold the power, it's up to the interested parties to prove they can bring value, and less of a mutual negotiation. Warren is likely also in an "information download" mode. Collecting all the info about anybody interested in joining the B1G or any scheduling agreement, and will then lay out all the options to the University Presidents and ADs.
 

Honestly I think Warren is just waiting and letting interested parties come to him. Sounds like Texas and OK to the SEC was a done deal, so a move like counter offering wasn't really going to change anything.

By waiting and letting people come to them, the Pac-12 and the B1G hold the power, it's up to the interested parties to prove they can bring value, and less of a mutual negotiation. Warren is likely also in an "information download" mode. Collecting all the info about anybody interested in joining the B1G or any scheduling agreement, and will then lay out all the options to the University Presidents and ADs.

The Big Ten is in good position right now. There is no need for immediate expansion. Definitely don't want to panic and end up bringing a couple of teams that provide little.
 

Can you imagine being Kevin Warren? Becomes conference commissioner just in time for Covid and now this major shake up? Brutal. What’s his next move in this whole thing? Convince notre dame to join?
Honestly, no, I couldn't imagine being as stupid and incompetent as Mr. Warren. His dawdling and floundering cost the conference millions and millions last year, not to mention a lot of embarrassment nationally. Not surprisingly, once again in this scenario, others are actually taking action while he sits and sits and sits....

What I'm really interested to see is how the new Pac-12 Commissioner works out. They really went outside the box (dumb cliche, I know) and went with a guy with a history as a President of Entertainment and Sports with MGM Resorts in Nevada. Someone who also seems to understand 100% where the bread is buttered, the revenue generating sports.

So far, I really like what I've heard from him. It's a little early to tell but so far it looks like they knocked it out of the park with Kliavkoff.
 


The remaining B12 teams don’t collectively bring a lot to the table. I’m not sure that’s a good deal for the Pac12. One would assume that if the B12 were really trying to get the Pac12 to form an alliance, it would behoove the Pac12 to try and get the B10 to do the same and leave the B12 dangling in the wind.

I think the most common sense deal out of the entire situation is for all the remaining commissioners get together and agree to vote down a playoff expansion. Without an expansion, there is little chance Texas/OU have a shot at making it from the SEC. Sure, the SEC could break off into their own entity, but the remaining schools P5 & G5 still have the power of numbers and would certainly be more powerful than the SEC on their own. The SEC is trying to bully everybody into something, but they still need the others to make them relevant. The other commissioners should be working together to ensure the stability of everybody outside the SEC.

The only way the SEC can “win” in a situation like that is if they start poaching schools like Michigan, OSU, USC, etc. and leaving the leftovers behind. But many of the PAC 12, B10, and ACC schools’ presidents are more worried about endowments and academic/research grants/alliances than where they play football.
 

The remaining B12 teams don’t collectively bring a lot to the table. I’m not sure that’s a good deal for the Pac12. One would assume that if the B12 were really trying to get the Pac12 to form an alliance, it would behoove the Pac12 to try and get the B10 to do the same and leave the B12 dangling in the wind.

I think the most common sense deal out of the entire situation is for all the remaining commissioners get together and agree to vote down a playoff expansion. Without an expansion, there is little chance Texas/OU have a shot at making it from the SEC. Sure, the SEC could break off into their own entity, but the remaining schools P5 & G5 still have the power of numbers and would certainly be more powerful than the SEC on their own. The SEC is trying to bully everybody into something, but they still need the others to make them relevant. The other commissioners should be working together to ensure the stability of everybody outside the SEC.

The only way the SEC can “win” in a situation like that is if they start poaching schools like Michigan, OSU, USC, etc. and leaving the leftovers behind. But many of the PAC 12, B10, and ACC schools’ presidents are more worried about endowments and academic/research grants/alliances than where they play football.
Big Ten seems solid from a revenue perspective with three top 15 media markets and footholds in DC and New York. Given that Minnesota enjoys the status of traditionally a top 20 public University we’re firmly part of the foundation of major Big Ten assets in the eyes of the Big Ten presidents. Revenue-wise from the conference perspective we just need to field competitive teams in the revenue sports so we’re capturing decent ratings in our market. Yet, we all know sadly this is an ongoing struggle for the totality of football and basketball at Minnesota.
 




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