Anyone in favor of extending Fleck and making him one of the highest

TurfGopher

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Posting this garbage nonsense once wasn't enough? You had to post it again?

Comparing the University of Minnesota to Western Michigan University? AND comparing Minneapolis to Kalamazoo? Seriously?
He left a successful mid major program he built as soon as he had a chance to do it at a higher level. This may blow your mind dpodork... but we are a perennial P5 bottom feeder. Plenty of programs with more money to throw at football than the U. He will leave us for a helmet school, His ego craves it.
 

Livingat45north

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OK. Let's put this in perspective. This, to the best of my knowledge, is the current status of Fleck's contract, which runs through 2023. His original deal from 2017 was 5 years, $18 million total. He signed a 1-year extension in 2018. that takes us up to the present. (per the Strib)

BASE SALARIES PER SEASON
2019: $3.6 million
2020: $ 3.65 million
2021: $3.7 million
2022: $3.75 million
2023: $3.8 million

BUYOUTS
If he’s fired: Amount owed to Fleck if the Gophers fire him ...
on Jan. 1, 2020: $9M
on Jan. 1, 2021: $5.5M
on Jan. 1, 2022: $3M
on Jan. 1, 2023: $1.5M

If he leaves for another job: Amount Fleck owes the Gophers if he leaves ...
before 2020 season: $4M
before 2021 season: $3M
before 2022 season: $2M
before 2023 season: $1M
Note: Buyouts are prorated, if termination occurs midyear.
We should get another one-year extension in place now where the salary is increased along with the buyout levels. Do it now versus waiting until the end of the year when the annual "who's going to be our next coach now that we fired our last loser" frenzy starts.
 

Section2

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If he relishes the under dog role, why did he leave his previous job when he was pushing toward the goal of making the team relevant on a national level?

He took a step up to come to Minn, he will take the next step if offered.


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Maybe. And maybe MN will no longer be an underdog? Maybe he can make us nationally relevant in 5 years. Western Michigan's absolute cap is building a program like Boise. And Fleck got them there in 4.

some will tell you our cap is West titles, but it isn't.
 

Section2

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He left a successful mid major program he built as soon as he had a chance to do it at a higher level. This may blow your mind dpodork... but we are a perennial P5 bottom feeder. Plenty of programs with more money to throw at football than the U. He will leave us for a helmet school, His ego craves it.
His goal wasn't mid major. It might not be Minnesota. It might be helmet school or the NFL. There is a lot to like about the Twin Cities though. There's a reason Mason never left. Part of why I like the long slow build route is because once those roots take hold here, it's hard to leave. Old Lou got out just in time.
 

SSWWMAS

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How our standards have fallen...

Win a few more axe games, regularly beat top-25 teams, and win at least one west title and then we can talk. I don’t want our future to be based on a great year with a weak schedule.
 
Bottom line - as long as Coyle is the AD, I think Fleck will be the FB Coach.

My bet is that they do a one-year "extension" every year, so Fleck always has at least 5 years on his contract. It will be the equivalent of an annual 1-year rollover.

if another school does come sniffing around, and Coyle gets wind of it, he'll give Fleck a salary bump to keep him at MN.

(we could do the debate over whether a coach needs a 5-year deal to recruit effectively, but that would be another topic for another thread.)
 

GFBfan

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Bottom line - as long as Coyle is the AD, I think Fleck will be the FB Coach.

My bet is that they do a one-year "extension" every year, so Fleck always has at least 5 years on his contract. It will be the equivalent of an annual 1-year rollover.

if another school does come sniffing around, and Coyle gets wind of it, he'll give Fleck a salary bump to keep him at MN.

(we could do the debate over whether a coach needs a 5-year deal to recruit effectively, but that would be another topic for another thread.)
I believe this is the way to go.
Hasn't MC done this exact same thing with Richard?
 

Section2

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I believe this is the way to go.
Hasn't MC done this exact same thing with Richard?
Richard isn't exactly in demand.

This isn't the way to go with Fleck. Give him a long term deal. Lock him up. Help him recruit. Show committment. Help him retain assistants.
 

GFBfan

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Richard isn't exactly in demand.

This isn't the way to go with Fleck. Give him a long term deal. Lock him up. Help him recruit. Show committment. Help him retain assistants.
He has a 5 year contract now, why do we need to go any further than that? Roll it over each year.
That is as much security as any coach should need. It also, gives either side an out if they need it at a lower cost to whichever one decides it's time for a change.
 

Loaded_Brewer

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Maybe. And maybe MN will no longer be an underdog? Maybe he can make us nationally relevant in 5 years. Western Michigan's absolute cap is building a program like Boise. And Fleck got them there in 4.

some will tell you our cap is West titles, but it isn't.
How do you know that isn’t the cap, if it has never been achieved? Maybe winning the west is above the actual cap


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Spoofin

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Maybe. And maybe MN will no longer be an underdog? Maybe he can make us nationally relevant in 5 years. <b>Western Michigan's absolute cap is building a program like Boise. And Fleck got them there in 4. </b>
Western Michigan built a program like Boise? Wow.


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dpodoll68

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They were in the Big East which was a BCS conference.
They were not. The Big East had ceased to exist as a football conference when he left Louisville. As I already accurately stated, they were in the American Athletic Conference. They began playing in the ACC the season after Strong left for Texas.
 

Jeshurun

King of the Too's
Maybe. And maybe MN will no longer be an underdog? Maybe he can make us nationally relevant in 5 years. Western Michigan's absolute cap is building a program like Boise. And Fleck got them there in 4.

some will tell you our cap is West titles, but it isn't.
Might be a bit of a stretch to say Western Michigan built a program like Boise. They had one Boise-like season.
 

die hard gopher

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They were not. The Big East had ceased to exist as a football conference when he left Louisville. As I already accurately stated, they were in the American Athletic Conference. They began playing in the ACC the season after Strong left for Texas.
You are right, didn't realize Louisville was in the AAC for a year.

The AAC was a BCS conference in the one year the BCS and AAC overlapped though so Louisville was always a BCS/P5 team.
 
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