Any Audio Fanatics Out There?

stocker08

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A lot of tension between Gophen fans over political issues. That can and will continue. But does anyone have any audio equipment stuff to talk about? It's always been something I've been interested in. Since starting to drive and putting crappy sub setups in my trunk to much more evolved 5-channel systems that centered around my front speakers with little emphasis on subs. Now I don't want to hack up my new cars with a bad audio install (wires hangings out everywhere) like I've done in the past. I still have my beastly chrome 5-channel Memphis Big Belle if I ever choose to try it again.

Anyways. Home theather? I'm sure some of you guys have some dope setups. Anyone have an Atmos setup? I've got the traditional 5.1 setup. Pioneer Elite Reciever and speakers all around. The sub I got off ebay, since it's a somewhat of a small room, it's only about four inches high including the wood grain cabinet. Slides perfectly underneath another media 'cart' and it does pretty well. I'm pretty happy with HT setup right now. It bangs when I need it too. Atmos is out of the question for now, due to the vaulted ceilings.

As for headphones. There are so many companies out there making headphones. I would like to suggest Bluedio. I've got several pairs of their headphones...and they put most of what you buy in the store for double cost to shame.

Finally...external amps and DACs. If you listen to music on your phone or computer, know that the sound card producing that is very cheap and very underpowered. I personally rip my own CDs with my own preferences. Typically end up with a 7-10MB file. Despite being and Mp3 or an M4A file....that all needs to be decoded and turned into something that we can hear. That is the part of the DAC (Digital-to-alalog converter). Purchasing an external DAC is far more important than spending a bunch on the stupidest new headphones. Start with the source. I bought a Sabaj D1 Headphone amp off ebay for about $12 six months ago. Even my $200 headphones sound better with it.
 

balds

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A lot of tension between Gophen fans over political issues. That can and will continue. But does anyone have any audio equipment stuff to talk about? It's always been something I've been interested in. Since starting to drive and putting crappy sub setups in my trunk to much more evolved 5-channel systems that centered around my front speakers with little emphasis on subs. Now I don't want to hack up my new cars with a bad audio install (wires hangings out everywhere) like I've done in the past. I still have my beastly chrome 5-channel Memphis Big Belle if I ever choose to try it again.

Anyways. Home theather? I'm sure some of you guys have some dope setups. Anyone have an Atmos setup? I've got the traditional 5.1 setup. Pioneer Elite Reciever and speakers all around. The sub I got off ebay, since it's a somewhat of a small room, it's only about four inches high including the wood grain cabinet. Slides perfectly underneath another media 'cart' and it does pretty well. I'm pretty happy with HT setup right now. It bangs when I need it too. Atmos is out of the question for now, due to the vaulted ceilings.

As for headphones. There are so many companies out there making headphones. I would like to suggest Bluedio. I've got several pairs of their headphones...and they put most of what you buy in the store for double cost to shame.

Finally...external amps and DACs. If you listen to music on your phone or computer, know that the sound card producing that is very cheap and very underpowered. I personally rip my own CDs with my own preferences. Typically end up with a 7-10MB file. Despite being and Mp3 or an M4A file....that all needs to be decoded and turned into something that we can hear. That is the part of the DAC (Digital-to-alalog converter). Purchasing an external DAC is far more important than spending a bunch on the stupidest new headphones. Start with the source. I bought a Sabaj D1 Headphone amp off ebay for about $12 six months ago. Even my $200 headphones sound better with it.
Most of this is way over my head. I have the bigger Bose Soundbar with the Subwoofer for TV. Very happy with it. Bose Sound Dock and an I phone for music. Nothing unique, but very happy with both.
 

stocker08

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Most of this is way over my head. I have the bigger Bose Soundbar with the Subwoofer for TV. Very happy with it. Bose Sound Dock and an I phone for music. Nothing unique, but very happy with both.
You can never go wrong with Bose speakers. There's a reason why they are highly thought of. I've have several sets of Bose headphones and (not several sets) home theater speakers. I'd say that they are are a little overpriced based upon their name alone....but....the speakers sound really good.....and are built like tanks.
 

Gophers_4life

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Maybe things have changed ... but I doubt it, why would they? At least back when I was looking at home theater speakers over a decade ago, Bose HT speakers were very poorly regarded by HT communities. Low-quality build materials, low quality electronics, cheap quality overall. Rather, there is a lot of psycho-acoustic trickery involved by their salespeople. Much higher margins that way.

If I was going to spend a good chunk of change on HT, would definitely recommend by separate amplifier and speakers (whether 5.1 7.1 or whatever the best is now, 9.2?)

Otherwise, maybe look at a high quality soundbar?
 

stocker08

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Maybe things have changed ... but I doubt it, why would they? At least back when I was looking at home theater speakers over a decade ago, Bose HT speakers were very poorly regarded by HT communities. Low-quality build materials, low quality electronics, cheap quality overall. Rather, there is a lot of psycho-acoustic trickery involved by their salespeople. Much higher margins that way.

If I was going to spend a good chunk of change on HT, would definitely recommend by separate amplifier and speakers (whether 5.1 7.1 or whatever the best is now, 9.2?)

Otherwise, maybe look at a high quality soundbar?
Well....for the money...I wouldn't personally suggest Bose. But whoever said low build quality and low quality electronics was probably just a hater. One of the big knocks on Bose is that they accentuate the highs and lows while cutting on the mid range frequencies. It sounds great to the average rube....but the more attuned audio fan will pick up on it. But yeah....I'd still say that Bose is quality equipment....you just have to pay a premium for it.

For the money....you'd do much better buying your HT system piece by piece. Start with the receiver. It's the key component to any setup. Great speakers will sound dull if you are powering them with a lousy receiver. I'd rather have a really nice receiver and junk speakers than the other way around.

Never do home theater in a box. That is.....unless it's a very high end one. If you are spending less than six or seven hundred.....it's probably all marginal equipment that will end up sounding......well......marginal. For that money....buy a nice receiver and spend the remainder on surround speakers. There are plenty of good deals on both.
 

Gophers_4life

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Well....for the money...I wouldn't personally suggest Bose. But whoever said low build quality and low quality electronics was probably just a hater. One of the big knocks on Bose is that they accentuate the highs and lows while cutting on the mid range frequencies. It sounds great to the average rube....but the more attuned audio fan will pick up on it. But yeah....I'd still say that Bose is quality equipment....you just have to pay a premium for it.

For the money....you'd do much better buying your HT system piece by piece. Start with the receiver. It's the key component to any setup. Great speakers will sound dull if you are powering them with a lousy receiver. I'd rather have a really nice receiver and junk speakers than the other way around.

Never do home theater in a box. That is.....unless it's a very high end one. If you are spending less than six or seven hundred.....it's probably all marginal equipment that will end up sounding......well......marginal. For that money....buy a nice receiver and spend the remainder on surround speakers. There are plenty of good deals on both.
Correct on the main unit being the most critical. Some people even have separate main unit and amplifier. You can spend whatever dollar figure you want to on HT, like many things in life.

Maybe what I should've said re:Bose is lower quality, for the money, rather than just low quality.
 

stocker08

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Correct on the main unit being the most critical. Some people even have separate main unit and amplifier. You can spend whatever dollar figure you want to on HT, like many things in life.

Maybe what I should've said re:Bose is lower quality, for the money, rather than just low quality.
Right. The source unit is most important. Amplifier is dependent on your situation. Speaker power handling and impendence will play a part there.

And again...I wouldn't say lower quality. Since for most people....it's actually pretty high quality. It all depends on how much you plan to spend.
 

Donovan

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I’m also a bit of an audiophile. Steve Guttenberg is pretty fun/unique reviewer who now has a YouTube channel. Here’s a good example of one of his videos:
 

stocker08

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Thanks for sharing. Now....that can't be the Steve Guttenberg that I'm thinking of. If so....he looks horrible.

And for anyone looking for budget headphones that WAY outproduce their price point....I have several pairs of Bluedio headphones. I know that I mentioned it in my OP....but I've bought a few more since then. Couple sets of wireless earbuds with charging cases....each under $20....and a second set of over ear headphones for just under $40. If you are looking for something just to play with or don't care to spend much on headphones....look into them. The newer pair of wireless earbuds and the overears have this new feature that I've never seen where if you remove and earbud or take the headphones away from your ears....they automatically pause whatever you are listening to until you replace them. Not exactly a feature that you need....but you get the idea. And the over ear are really nice and lightweight. Sold me because they have the metal frame so they should be pretty durable and the cans swivel 45 degrees which is great if you are taking off your headphones at all. Typical cans are uncomfortable to have around your neck because of the size of the cans protruding upwards into your neck. These are great for that reason as well....since they hang comfortably flat on your chest.
 

Bad Gopher

A Loner, A Rebel
I’m also a bit of an audiophile. Steve Guttenberg is pretty fun/unique reviewer who now has a YouTube channel. Here’s a good example of one of his videos:
Thanks for those vids!

I'm not an audio fanatic, but I did buy some in-ceiling speakers when we built our new house, and I was happy with what we ended up with for the price. We went with Yamaha, and I think they sound great. I'm sure you could spend eight times as much for an incremental improvement, but these were the right price point for us. The imaging is good, and the bass is precise and punchy. Highly recommended.
 

stocker08

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Thanks for those vids!

I'm not an audio fanatic, but I did buy some in-ceiling speakers when we built our new house, and I was happy with what we ended up with for the price. We went with Yamaha, and I think they sound great. I'm sure you could spend eight times as much for an incremental improvement, but these were the right price point for us. The imaging is good, and the bass is precise and punchy. Highly recommended.
Unless things have changed in recent years......Yamaha has always been solid audio equipment.

And I am very very tempted to buy these Planar Magnetic Headphones from Massdrop. But I really do not need more headphones.....

https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-hifiman-he4xx-planar-magnetic-headphones

Just bought a few new pairs of budget earbuds from aliexpress. Only got the RY4Ss so far. Really solid and super comfortable after messing mostly with in ear buds for the past multiple years now. The Monks have gotten lots of love from the Head-Fi community.....so I'm sure that they will sound nice as well. Doesn't hurt to have a little headphone amp to give them a little extra juice.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32820438211.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.6c2a4c4du4gZU0

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32417311324.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.6c2a4c4du4gZU0

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32844964644.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.6c2a4c4du4gZU0
 

jamiche

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I'm going to be upgrading my HT and I'm considering Bowers and Wilkins or Klipsch speakers. Any thoughts?
 

stocker08

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I'm going to be upgrading my HT and I'm considering Bowers and Wilkins or Klipsch speakers. Any thoughts?
If you can afford B&W....I don't see how you could possibly go wrong. Given I haven't heard a whole lot of them....but they pretty much only deal in really high end equipment, do they not?

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jamiche

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If you can afford B&W....I don't see how you could possibly go wrong. Given I haven't heard a whole lot of them....but they pretty much only deal in really high end equipment, do they not?

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I'm just starting to do some research and they definitely aren't low end. However, they seem to have a range of price points, some of which work for me and some of which don't. I'm trying to determine if the quality matches the reputation and I don't know much about the industry. It's probably been ten years since I last did this (Bose) and I can see where somebody can go crazy with this stuff. I'm not an audiophile and the technical aspects don't interest me. I just want a rich sound with a really good center channel at a reasonable price.
 
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