All Things Impeachment Inquiry

Costa Rican Gopher

Mind of a Scientist
Reading takes time and is hard.

Hot takes are quick and easy.
Use your head kiddo. There's nothing illegal or even inappropriate about putting that conversation on a secure server. To pretend there is, is simply delusional.

William Barr is heading an investigation into the genesis of the 2016 Russia collusion hoax. That starts in Ukraine, where DNC operatives colluded with Ukraine. Opening that can of worms leads to all sorts of potential, high level corruption by US politicians. It's all being investigated. This circus is about stopping that investigation. The D's (Some R's as well) have a lot to lose if America finds out what they've been up to.
 

Costa Rican Gopher

Mind of a Scientist
Two questions for the left leaning posters:

1) If the DNC colluded with Ukraine to affect the 2016 election in favor of Clinton, should those people be brought to justice?

2) If Dem politicians were involved in high level corruption & abuse of power in Ukraine, should they be held accountable?
 

MnplsGopher

Active member
Use your head kiddo. There's nothing illegal or even inappropriate about putting that conversation on a secure server. To pretend there is, is simply delusional.

William Barr is heading an investigation into the genesis of the 2016 Russia collusion hoax. That starts in Ukraine, where DNC operatives colluded with Ukraine. Opening that can of worms leads to all sorts of potential, high level corruption by US politicians. It's all being investigated. This circus is about stopping that investigation. The D's (Some R's as well) have a lot to lose if America finds out what they've been up to.
There's nothing that Trump and team could do where you wouldn't say "There's nothing illegal about _____".

When you pretend the law says you can do anything you want ...
 

MnplsGopher

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Two questions for the left leaning posters:

1) If the DNC colluded with Ukraine to affect the 2016 election in favor of Clinton, should those people be brought to justice?

2) If Dem politicians were involved in high level corruption & abuse of power in Ukraine, should they be held accountable?
Why do these questions matter for impeaching Trump or not?

Pretend I said "Yes" to both. Then what?? Now Trump can be impeached?
 

KillerGopherFan

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It’s really amazing how almost precisely at the same time Gopher4life lost interest in politics on the OTB, that MnplsGopher got interested in politics on the OTB.

It’s like someone who wanted to reboot their perception on the OTB and chose to do it with a different identity. That new identity came in with somewhat humble opinion compared to the goofiness and challenging opinion of the old identity, but then has gradually gravitated back to a very similar somewhat youthful and shallow lefty opinion that resembles the old G4L (edit: hasn’t posted since 9/11).

Come one dude, just give it up and admit you’re G4L.
 
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bga1

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Why do these questions matter for impeaching Trump or not?

Pretend I said "Yes" to both. Then what?? Now Trump can be impeached?
No. What we are after is justice not political gain. Now do I want Trump to stay in office to suit my political goals? Sure - his policies are like mine. But if we don't have a justice system that deals it out even handedly without political bias, then we don't have a just nation. Instead we have a house of cards. What you are asking for is a trade, Biden for Trump or Brennan for Trump. This isn't baseball. This is justice. If Brennan and the Obama administration broke the law (they clearly did) and Trump just irritates you (he clearly does) putting all of them in prison to satisfy both sides isn't justice.

Trump has done nothing to deserve impeachment, legally. Here's a tip off, the news today was that the Dems want more transcripts of Trump's calls? Why? They don't have anything from the last one that is really impeachable. If you get your news from Jake Tapper they do, but according to the facts of the case? Not even close.
 
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MnplsGopher

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No. What we are after is justice not political gain. Now do I want Trump to stay in office to suit my political goals? Sure - his policies are like mine. But if we don't have a justice system that deals it out even handedly without political bias, then we don't have a just nation. Instead we have a house of cards.

Trump has done nothing to deserve impeachment, legally. Here's a tip off, the news today was that the Dems want more transcripts of Trump's calls? Why? They don't have anything from the last one that is really impeachable. If you get your news from Jake Tapper they do, but according to the facts of the case? Not even close.
Isn't that why it's called an investigation?

Why is he so eager to cover up those details and information?
 

bga1

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Isn't that why it's called an investigation?

Why is he so eager to cover up those details and information?
He hasn't covered up anything. He should never have to give up the transcript of a call to another national leader. That makes our nation weaker. But to put it all to bed- he did it anyway. He has been fifty times more transparent than Obama every was. He has given everything asked. What is this cover up you claim?

Congress is allowed and tasked to do oversight and investigations- not run fishing expeditions. Show me the transcript.....he does it. Show us more. It never stops and it isn't because he has done anything legally wrong. All of these investigations have shown nothing - yet a new one always follows. Doesn't that at least give you pause when there have been so many false allegations already? It's kind of like a slip and fall claimant that shows up in court twice a year to sure someone. At some point you just say - hey, you are a scam artist and a liar. That's what any clear thinking person now sees with the Dems.
 
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MnplsGopher

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He hasn't covered up anything. He should never have to give up the transcript of a call to another national leader. That makes our nation weaker. But to put it all to bed- he did it anyway. He has been fifty times more transparent than Obama every was. He has given everything asked. What is this cover up you claim?
Putting it on the security sever. Illegal misuse.
 

MnplsGopher

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A cover up, of something that's not a crime?
You weren't sure if you jaywalked, but you think you might have.

So you hack into the city's security camera system, and delete the video showing you crossing the street from the system.


Turns out, you didn't break any jaywalking laws when you crossed street.


No crimes were committed, then?
 

Costa Rican Gopher

Mind of a Scientist
Isn't that why it's called an investigation?

Why is he so eager to cover up those details and information?
You support Congress changing the rules for the impeachment process to exclude Republicans, the CIA changing the rules for the whistle-blower process to exclude evidence, launching an impeachment inquiry into ANY and ALL FUTURE Presidents if they try to investigate foreign election tampering or high level political corruption. It's really sick what you support. No liberal would ever be on board with this.
 

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