All Things Impeachment Inquiry

bga1

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Two Republican Governors (Vermont, Massachusetts) and now one Republican in the House announce support for the impeachment inquiry.

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Trump's poll numbers are rising in polls taken since this latest coup attempt started. It could be that the American people are sick and tired of you. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
 

Cruze

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The Trump-Ukraine scandal just got its Watergate-tapes moment

The anonymous whistleblower complaint about Donald Trump’s request that the president of Ukraine investigate Joe Biden’s son contains a number of stunning charges. One of them is the allegation that White House officials moved what the whistleblower describes as the “official word-for-word transcript” of Trump and the Ukrainian president’s call to a “separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature” — even though a White House official said the call contained no sensitive national security information.

It gets worse: “This was ‘not the first time’ under this Administration that a Presidential transcript was placed into this codeword-level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive — rather than national security sensitive — information".

Reporters and analysts who’ve been covering Trump’s foreign entanglements for years immediately latched on to this as a key allegation in the complaint. “This just got much bigger,” Greg Miller at the Washington Post declared. “This to me is most significant and what carries the news cycle for many days to come — what ELSE has the WH inappropriately put on a classified system?” NPR’s Tim Mak added.

One reason the alleged transcript vault feels like such a profound revelation is that it’s an echo of one of the biggest moments in the Watergate investigation. A key turning point came in July 1973 when Alexander Butterfield, a former aide in the Nixon White House, told investigators and then Congress that the president had a recording system in all his White House offices that taped his conversations.

Read complete article at: https://www.vox.com/2019/9/26/20885149/trump-transcript-ukraine-watergate-tapes
 

LesBolstad

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The Trump-Ukraine scandal just got its Watergate-tapes moment

The anonymous whistleblower complaint about Donald Trump’s request that the president of Ukraine investigate Joe Biden’s son contains a number of stunning charges. One of them is the allegation that White House officials moved what the whistleblower describes as the “official word-for-word transcript” of Trump and the Ukrainian president’s call to a “separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature” — even though a White House official said the call contained no sensitive national security information.

It gets worse: “This was ‘not the first time’ under this Administration that a Presidential transcript was placed into this codeword-level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive — rather than national security sensitive — information".

Reporters and analysts who’ve been covering Trump’s foreign entanglements for years immediately latched on to this as a key allegation in the complaint. “This just got much bigger,” Greg Miller at the Washington Post declared. “This to me is most significant and what carries the news cycle for many days to come — what ELSE has the WH inappropriately put on a classified system?” NPR’s Tim Mak added.

One reason the alleged transcript vault feels like such a profound revelation is that it’s an echo of one of the biggest moments in the Watergate investigation. A key turning point came in July 1973 when Alexander Butterfield, a former aide in the Nixon White House, told investigators and then Congress that the president had a recording system in all his White House offices that taped his conversations.

Read complete article at: https://www.vox.com/2019/9/26/20885149/trump-transcript-ukraine-watergate-tapes
Haha. Yep, this is it! This is the smoking gun we've been praying to Lord Government for. Trump will assuredly be impeached now!

Enjoy 5 more years of #MAGA!
 

KillerGopherFan

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What a joke.

If it were the ONLY call transcript between Trump and a foreign leader placed in a higher security location, it would be a scandal.

If there are more call transcripts between Trump and foreign leaders placed in a higher security location, it’s a scandal.

Even though 3 previous PRIVATE calls between Trump and foreign leaders have leaked to the public.

We get it. Anything Trump does is a scandal to you and yours.
 

MnplsGopher

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Bingo.

Seems to be a recurring theme with this outfit: it's never really the thing, it's the fact that they try to cover it up.

http://www.startribune.com/house-democrats-subpoena-secretary-of-state-pompeo-as-inquiry-escalates/561584672/

The White House concealed some reconstructed transcripts of delicate calls between President Donald Trump and foreign officials, including President Vladimir Putin and the Saudi royal family, in a highly classified computer system after embarrassing leaks of his conversations, according to current and former officials.

The handling of Trump’s calls with world leaders has come under scrutiny after questions over whether a transcript of a July 25 call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine was improperly placed into this computer system.

The latest revelations show the focus that White House officials put on safeguarding not only classified information but also delicate calls with Trump, the details of which the administration did not want leaked.

A whistleblower complaint accuses officials of trying to “lock down” access to information about the conversation with Zelensky by improperly storing the reconstructed transcript of the July 25 call in the highly classified system after the call took place.

In the case of the calls with the Saudi royal family, the restrictions were set beforehand, and the number of people allowed to listen was sharply restricted. The Saudi calls placed in the restricted system were with King Salman, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Prince Khalid bin Salman, who at the time was the Saudi ambassador to the United States.

I truly don't care in the slightest that it is a pivot from the original idea (the Ukraine call, specifically). Pivot away.

Still going to be tough to get the Senate to act, but if pivoting to illegal misuse of security computer systems does the trick, then do it.
 

MnplsGopher

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http://www.startribune.com/pelosi-concerned-about-trump-s-whistleblower-spy-comments/561521922/

House Democrats took their first concrete steps in the impeachment investigation of President Donald Trump on Friday, issuing subpoenas demanding documents from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and scheduling legal depositions for other State Department officials.

At the end of a stormy week of revelation and recrimination, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi framed the impeachment inquiry as a somber moment for a divided nation.

"This is no cause for any joy," she said on MSNBC.

At the White House, a senior administration official confirmed a key detail from the unidentified CIA whistleblower who has accused Trump of abusing the power of his office. Trump, for his part, insisted anew that his actions and words have been "perfect" and the whistleblower's complaint might well be the work of "a partisan operative."

The White House acknowledged that a record of the Trump phone call that is now at the center of the impeachment inquiry had been sealed away in a highly classified system at the direction of Trump's National Security Council lawyers.

Separately, Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway told reporters that the whistleblower "has protection under the law," something Trump himself had appeared to question earlier in the day. He suggested then that his accuser "isn't a whistleblower at all."

Still at issue is why the rough transcript of Trump's July 25 phone call with Ukraine's president was put on "lock down," in the words of the whistleblower. The CIA officer said that diverting the record in an unusual way was evidence that "White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired" in the conversation.
 

MnplsGopher

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http://www.startribune.com/trump-told-russian-officials-in-2017-he-wasn-t-concerned-about-moscow-s-interference-in-u-s-election/561579622/

President Donald Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the U.S. election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter.

The comments, which have not been previously reported, were part of a now-infamous meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, in which Trump revealed highly classified information that exposed a source of intelligence on the Islamic State. He also said during the meeting that firing FBI Director James Comey the previous day had relieved “great pressure” on him.

A memorandum summarizing the meeting was limited to all but a few officials with the highest security clearances in an attempt to keep the president’s comments from being disclosed publicly, according to the former officials, who requested anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.
 

Dean S

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Training a new generation of CIA operatives...: how to topple a dictator 101 -- practice domestically!
 

bga1

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The Trump-Ukraine scandal just got its Watergate-tapes moment

The anonymous whistleblower complaint about Donald Trump’s request that the president of Ukraine investigate Joe Biden’s son contains a number of stunning charges. One of them is the allegation that White House officials moved what the whistleblower describes as the “official word-for-word transcript” of Trump and the Ukrainian president’s call to a “separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature” — even though a White House official said the call contained no sensitive national security information.

It gets worse: “This was ‘not the first time’ under this Administration that a Presidential transcript was placed into this codeword-level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive — rather than national security sensitive — information".

Reporters and analysts who’ve been covering Trump’s foreign entanglements for years immediately latched on to this as a key allegation in the complaint. “This just got much bigger,” Greg Miller at the Washington Post declared. “This to me is most significant and what carries the news cycle for many days to come — what ELSE has the WH inappropriately put on a classified system?” NPR’s Tim Mak added.

One reason the alleged transcript vault feels like such a profound revelation is that it’s an echo of one of the biggest moments in the Watergate investigation. A key turning point came in July 1973 when Alexander Butterfield, a former aide in the Nixon White House, told investigators and then Congress that the president had a recording system in all his White House offices that taped his conversations.

Read complete article at: https://www.vox.com/2019/9/26/20885149/trump-transcript-ukraine-watergate-tapes
Oops. Looks like Obama also did this same thing as Susan Rice admits:https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/28/susan-rice-obama-put-call-transcripts-on-top-secret-server-too/
 

bga1

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Dem. Governor Cuomo says impeachment is a mistake- long road to nowhere.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/andrew-cuomo-leftist-dems-pelosi-impeachment

"They're doing their quote unquote inquiry. I think the Ukraine issue raises a lot of questions and I think it is for an investigative committee, it is fodder they can spend months, one witness after another, one witness after another, on all sort of different tracks,” Cuomo said. “Where does it go ultimately? Nowhere, because even if they vote for impeachment, it goes to the Senate and it wouldn't happen in the Senate.”

"So my guess is that this continues and blends into the presidential campaign. The problem with that is that nothing else is going to get done between now and then," he said.




That's it in a nutshell, the country be damned, the Dems want to get Trump any way they can.
 

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