All Things Class of 2020 Recruiting Thread

builtbadgers

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Built, you seem to have the ear of several recruits and their families as an apparent advisor during the recruiting process, and in other posts you’ve referenced providing recommendations to them on coaches and programs. So here’s a question: have you ever recommended Pitino and the U of M to a Minnesota recruit (or one from elsewhere) when asked?
When asked,yes. If it meets all the things they are looking for better than somewhere else, yes. Lets say someone simply had staying home as his number one priority than i would tell them what a great spot this is, especially if early playing time was a high priority because that will come easier here than some other places. If someone asks who i think is the better coach, no matter the school i will tell them. If by chance academics are the priority then they need to research their field of interest. Unless of course there is a Stanford offer, then the answer is always Stanford ! It is usually answered by a return question asking them who they honestly feel is the best coach and best person at the best school that the have offers from. After all, it is the first really large adult decision. Most every kid and family i have talked to was incredible bright about what their priorities were and what coaches were all about. That is why creating your defined culture is and you target kids and families that meet all the criteria of your culture. Some have so well defined that the kinds pf kids they look for actually come to them. It is always fluid though and you have misses or kids chasing something too big in regard to competitive roster space as it relates to playing time and thus transfer out. But initially, 80% pick the best coach, program, even conference that their offers give. I believe it is just another opinion and can seldom point to it being a deciding factor. It is not as though people are flocking to me for advice. Now days it is 6-8 kids annually, maybe two dozen high school coaches each year and a half a dozen AAU guys. There is no way to out recruit the blue bloods so the idea is to create a specific way you can play, find the high character guys that are really good and that you will have as upperclassmen. When you become respected for your culture then you have more kids wanting to come. There are wonderful players from all over the world. Pre Pitino i did tell Kam Taylor, leuer and Jordan Taylor they would be getting far superior coaching at UW. I did tell the Jones boys , given their priorities that Duke was a far better choice, big games, best conference , legendary school, iconic coach, playing for championships. That literally meant nothing to them, they had already run the exercise of answering the questions dozens of times. These jobs that i am so critical of are so difficult. It only works when you build a rock solid foundation that bares your identity so everyone knows within one year what you stand for. I can list the 15 best programs of the last 5 years and their identity is so strong that everyone knows what it is. When you do not do that people just do not know what they are looking at.
 

BleedGopher

Administrator
Marcus: Wisconsin deals the Gophers double whammy in basketball recruiting

The Border Battle between Richard Pitino’s and Greg Gard’s basketball programs won’t happen on the court until February, but the fight between the Gophers and Badgers in recruiting Minnesota kids already played out this fall.

And that round went to Wisconsin.

In less than 24 hours, the Badgers plucked two four-star big men out of the Twin Cities with commitments from Eastview’s Steven Crowl on Tuesday and East Ridge’s Ben Carlson on Wednesday.

The Badgers’ 2020 recruiting class will be their fourth straight with players from Minnesota; current starters Nate Reuvers and Brad Davison came from the class of 2017. That doesn’t sit well with Gophers faithful just by itself.

But Wisconsin’s success locally adds to the overall growing concern that Pitino could strike out for the second straight year with in-state targets. This is one of the most talent-rich classes Minnesota has produced, with up to nine players expected to sign with Power Five conference schools.

Uncommitted local seniors Jalen Suggs, Dawson Garcia and Kerwin Walton have not scheduled official visits with the Gophers yet.

http://www.startribune.com/wisconsin-deals-the-gophers-double-whammy-in-basketball-recruiting/560732172/

Go Gophers!!
 

DeathClutch

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According to Corey Evans of Rivals, Ty Berry is down to a final two of Minnesota and Northwestern. Not surprising since he cancelled his officials to Kansas and Ok State. Linstead really needs to close the deal on this one.

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First time I’d visited and notice one my posts got some traction. Went on to explain the purpose as it was being misconstrued. I am a gopher fan first but have met Greg Gard and have a high level of respect for him as a coach. I tend to like coaches over programs with the exception of the gophers.
Fair enough. I don't think I'm a Troll. I try to be respectful.
 

Gophs24

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According to Corey Evans of Rivals, Ty Berry is down to a final two of Minnesota and Northwestern. Not surprising since he cancelled his officials to Kansas and Ok State. Linstead really needs to close the deal on this one.

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He would be a solid first get for this class! and hopefully get it rolling! did it mention any sort of timeframe? I would guess fairly soon?
 

StCroix

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We can all claim season tickets and donations on a message board, can't we? I guess when I'm on a message board I'm going to look at a person's narrative that's been being pushed at every given chance (for the past year) over a claim that cannot be proven. This dude is on here for three things:

1. To troll Gopher fans under the guise of a "supporter with proper expectations because I've seen how it should be done elsewhere"
2. To continually name-drop his "relationships" with coaches who are so much better than Pitino - why can't the rest of us idiots just see that?
3. To drop random tidbits and names in recruiting threads that have NOTHING to do with Gophers recruiting.
Thank you! THANK YOU! 100% on point. He’s fooled a lot of people here. Not me. I’m not going to go into it, but his information he presents with word salads is not near accurate. Especially when it comes to things “insiders” have told him or he knows. I don’t buy most of it...


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bga1

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He would be a solid first get for this class! and hopefully get it rolling! did it mention any sort of timeframe? I would guess fairly soon?
The toughest one to get is the first. After that the pressure mounts to grab spots. Right now all the pressure is on the coaches and the recruits are free and easy until the openings shrink.
 

Torres9

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How are we on instate recruits? Usually, they’re best placed to know if there’s a program problem. For example (and just an example), if the circuit around the state’s best players don’t think RP can coach, they go elsewhere. It’s a canary in a coal mine thing.
 

Slim Tubby

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Well at least Lindsay Whalen can recruit.
Can she? Call me completely unimpressed up to this point considering her pedigree as a player and local icon. That's not to say that I'm impressed with Pitino's recruiting acumen either. I thought this new Athletic Village was going to make all the difference in the world when it comes to recruiting but apparently illegal cash payments, hookers and giving parents "jobs" still rule the roost in college basketball.


Carlson is a nice player but I couldn't care less about not landing him at this point. I'll wait to see how the rest of recruiting plays out before making a final judgement on that. As for Crowl, I would rather have him eat up a scholarship of the turds to our East for the next four (4) years than one of ours.
 
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How are we on instate recruits? Usually, they’re best placed to know if there’s a program problem. For example (and just an example), if the circuit around the state’s best players don’t think RP can coach, they go elsewhere. It’s a canary in a coal mine thing.
Pitino has a fine relationship with HS coaches. His staff is decent and repaired a lot of the damage Tubby did. I do have and have mentioned numerous times that the relationship with D1 is not healthy and I don't think the program helps the U.
 

bc2211

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Pitino has a fine relationship with HS coaches. His staff is decent and repaired a lot of the damage Tubby did. I do have and have mentioned numerous times that the relationship with D1 is not healthy and I don't think the program helps the U.
This is a big concern for me. Since I’ve followed the program (06-07), I’ve seen plenty of references to general local influences (aau/high schools/basketball dads/basketball moms) having poor opinions of or relationships with the U. Folks seem to become resentful of so much in this town, and I think the culture itself could be partly to blame for the lack of interest in the U from local athletes.

Any idea how much are kids are being influenced by petty behavior from the adults in the room? Obviously the ultimate choice comes down to beat coaches/fit, but I get the sense that a lot of people in the area are actively working against the gophers. Reasons in the past seem to be the from the Saunders camp, the anti Teague camp, the my son didn’t get enough attention camp, the lakeville camp, and whatever the heck is up at D1.

Is this real or am I reading into too many things?


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abrams

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I just think it's Pitino's approach. I was at the Prior Lake game against Eastview last winter where Pitino came and watched. He hardly talked to Dawson's dad, he sat behind the PL bench. I'm sure they chatted after the game but Pitino's kids were there running around and the local dads were chatting him (Pitino) up. Pitino seems to have a laid back approach unlike some guys. I guess last Wednesday they were spotted at Savage Bonfire, the whole Garcia family and Pitino. We will see what happens with Garcia but he seems like a wanting more type kid.
 

Keyser Söze

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I just think it's Pitino's approach. I was at the Prior Lake game against Eastview last winter where Pitino came and watched. He hardly talked to Dawson's dad, he sat behind the PL bench. I'm sure they chatted after the game but Pitino's kids were there running around and the local dads were chatting him (Pitino) up. Pitino seems to have a laid back approach unlike some guys. I guess last Wednesday they were spotted at Savage Bonfire, the whole Garcia family and Pitino. We will see what happens with Garcia but he seems like a wanting more type kid.
Have you seen other coaches at games who talk more with the player's parents? Or who are you comparing Pitino to in this scenario? Maybe Dawson's dad wanted to watch his son play instead of focusing on small talk? Seems like you're grasping at straws here.
 

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