Reusse: Jim Delany's Rutgers/Big Ten idea was bad then and is worse now

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Commissioner Jim Delany recruited Maryland and Rutgers to give the Big Ten an East Coast presence for future cable and satellite negotiations. They were lured in 2012 and started competing in 2014.

Maryland brought a tolerable résumé. Rutgers seemed silly then, and is a farce now.

The Knights have a 17-game conference losing streak and are 7-41 in 4½ football seasons. They are 16-76 in five men’s basketball seasons. The topper: They are 1-88 with an 80-match losing streak in volleyball, and 23 sets won in 4½ seasons.

The Rutgers media staff does deserve a medal for this spin on another 0-20 for coach C.J. Warneke: “The 2018 season saw the Knights reach new heights with most sets won in Big Ten matches …’’

The Knights won a home game Saturday: 44-34 over Liberty. Rutgers paid a $1 million guarantee to Liberty. Looking at tweeted photos, that was $250 per spectator (or more).

Rutgers — aka, Delany’s Folly.

http://www.startribune.com/jim-dela...idea-was-bad-then-and-is-worse-now/563922932/

Go Gophers!!
 

Oh, how do I write about college football to best get under the Gopher fan's skin.

I know, I'll write about RUTGERS!!!
 

Didn't we have a far better informed gigantic thread on this recently?
 

I’ll agree with pat for once. Usually his articles are garbage but this is legit
 



Pat is right again.


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Rutgers should be voted out, replace them with Pitt or Syracuse.

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It's always easy to have 20/20 vision in hindsight. Yes, Rutgers seemed like a stretch at the time but its real easy to criticize others for past decisions. This is the easily written negative article that Pat Reusse is known for. I hope the Gophers continue to shock the world of college football and PR stays on the outside looking in to what is the best sports story in the TC since the Twins won the 87 and 91 world series.
 




All sports? You sure about that?
Rutgers is/was bad at all sports if you read the article. They, Rutgers were never a good fit in any Category except maybe academically in Big 10. Nebraska lower academic standards, and lower research standards, hurt the conference.

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Rutgers is/was bad at all sports if you read the article. They, Rutgers were never a good fit in any Category except maybe academically in Big 10. Nebraska lower academic standards, and lower research standards, hurt the conference.

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How do they hurt the conference?


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If you don't care about $$...

I always have and always will doubt that Rutgers brings the B1G much money. It sounds real good to talk about East Coast this and that, but nobody cares about Rutgers. How are they making the B1G all this $$


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Rutgers is/was bad at all sports if you read the article. They, Rutgers were never a good fit in any Category except maybe academically in Big 10. Nebraska lower academic standards, and lower research standards, hurt the conference.

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The article talked about two sports.

I’ll ask again: they’re stinking up the conference in all sports?? Are you sure about that??
 


The article talked about two sports.

I’ll ask again: they’re stinking up the conference in all sports?? Are you sure about that??

Since you likely won't answer, I'll do it for you.

Rutgers report card after year five in the Big Ten (2018-19): https://www.nj.com/sports/g66l-2019...h-in-year-5-of-big-ten-a-teambyteam-look.html

In particular, note women's basketball (3rd place in the conference). So, quite obviously, no they aren't stinking up the conference in ALL sports. Another is wrestling, finished 6th in conference, and had 2 national champions.

Pat cherry picked the two worst sports, because that's literally his job at the STrib, to be a troll.
 

Rutgers was brought in to put the BIG Channel on many, many TV lists. Even if one never watches the BIG they are still paying for it.
How the various FB, BB etc teams do has no significance. The BIG still gets the revenue.
Do not bite the hand that feeds you. MN 's AD would be a financial disaster without the TV money given the dismal sate of FB tickets sales.
NE is another matter. The population of that state is small so TV revenue is small. They needed place of refuge to escape the Longhorn TV channel. Alvarez played at NE, was a friend of St Tom, the program did have a certain brand, Notre Dame tuned the BIG down so NE got in.
NE ranks at the bottom of the BIG in academics, their standards for player school performance is at the near bottom, Frost, the NE AD and school president allows a player, Washington, charged with a child porn felony to stay on the team. MN and WI did and would not do that. NE has a JCO from SC whose JC grades would not let SC of FL admit him but NE did.
Yes, I know their fans are sugar sweet to visiting fans but they are also provincial, entitled and living in the past. There is no team I like more to see lose than NE.
 

Rutgers was brought in to put the BIG Channel on many, many TV lists. Even if one never watches the BIG they are still paying for it.
How the various FB, BB etc teams do has no significance. The BIG still gets the revenue.
Do not bite the hand that feeds you. MN 's AD would be a financial disaster without the TV money given the dismal sate of FB tickets sales.
NE is another matter. The population of that state is small so TV revenue is small. They needed place of refuge to escape the Longhorn TV channel. Alvarez played at NE, was a friend of St Tom, the program did have a certain brand, Notre Dame tuned the BIG down so NE got in.
NE ranks at the bottom of the BIG in academics, their standards for player school performance is at the near bottom, Frost, the NE AD and school president allows a player, Washington, charged with a child porn felony to stay on the team. MN and WI did and would not do that. NE has a JCO from SC whose JC grades would not let SC of FL admit him but NE did.
Yes, I know their fans are sugar sweet to visiting fans but they are also provincial, entitled and living in the past. There is no team I like more to see lose than NE.

Awesome post!

Glad there are people who get it.
 

Pat is right again.

Well... yeah. I'm not sure he's showing any special insight by pointing out the obvious, but... yes. He's 'right'.

Here's an idea for next week's column: The Twins aren't as good as the Yankees.
 

Rutgers was brought in to put the BIG Channel on many, many TV lists. Even if one never watches the BIG they are still paying for it.
How the various FB, BB etc teams do has no significance. The BIG still gets the revenue.
Do not bite the hand that feeds you. MN 's AD would be a financial disaster without the TV money given the dismal sate of FB tickets sales.
NE is another matter. The population of that state is small so TV revenue is small. They needed place of refuge to escape the Longhorn TV channel. Alvarez played at NE, was a friend of St Tom, the program did have a certain brand, Notre Dame tuned the BIG down so NE got in.
NE ranks at the bottom of the BIG in academics, their standards for player school performance is at the near bottom, Frost, the NE AD and school president allows a player, Washington, charged with a child porn felony to stay on the team. MN and WI did and would not do that. NE has a JCO from SC whose JC grades would not let SC of FL admit him but NE did.
Yes, I know their fans are sugar sweet to visiting fans but they are also provincial, entitled and living in the past. There is no team I like more to see lose than NE.

This is the correct answer. Anyone who is measuring the Rutgers add by their athletic success fails to understand what is actually being worked to accomplish.


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Well... yeah. I'm not sure he's showing any special insight by pointing out the obvious, but... yes. He's 'right'.

Here's an idea for next week's column: The Twins aren't as good as the Yankees.

So we agree? Cool.


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Rutgers was brought in to put the BIG Channel on many, many TV lists. Even if one never watches the BIG they are still paying for it.
How the various FB, BB etc teams do has no significance. The BIG still gets the revenue.
Do not bite the hand that feeds you. MN 's AD would be a financial disaster without the TV money given the dismal sate of FB tickets sales.
NE is another matter. The population of that state is small so TV revenue is small. They needed place of refuge to escape the Longhorn TV channel. Alvarez played at NE, was a friend of St Tom, the program did have a certain brand, Notre Dame tuned the BIG down so NE got in.
NE ranks at the bottom of the BIG in academics, their standards for player school performance is at the near bottom, Frost, the NE AD and school president allows a player, Washington, charged with a child porn felony to stay on the team. MN and WI did and would not do that. NE has a JCO from SC whose JC grades would not let SC of FL admit him but NE did.
Yes, I know their fans are sugar sweet to visiting fans but they are also provincial, entitled and living in the past. There is no team I like more to see lose than NE.

Agree with almost all of this. Pulling in the #1 and #6 media markets has paid back in spades with revenue.

We can bash Nebby for a lot of things mostly related to its FB program, but it still has the most Academic All-Americans in total, and in football.
 

Ha! Yes, Nebraska has always been known for their academic All-Americans.
 

So we agree? Cool.

Well, I agree with your statement that Reusse is 'right'. I'm not sure if you agree with my point that he's merely pointing out the obvious.

But it's "cool" either way.
 

Adding Rutgers was NOT solely about improving the Conference's football or men's basketball fortunes, not even close. Those factors were a distant 2nd or probably 3rd to things like #1 Media Footprint, and #2 Research Dollars. Delany also did not want yet to chase after a school that was not geographically connected to Big Ten Territory. Both Maryland and Rutgers WERE connected geographically, as was Nebraska and also Missouri. Now I am not sure whether Missouri got turned down by the B1G or if they turned us down? But Mizzou was also in the mix. Now looking at Mizzou for example, they haven't done anything special since moving to the SEC. Their basketball has been a flop. Got overrated a few times only to embarrass themselves and the SEC in the Big Dance. Their football did ok at the beginning, mostly by way of taking advantage of some advantageous scheduling. The one year they made it high into the rankings without a single Top 25 win. Their wrestling is pretty good, but otherwise I don't know much about Mizzou that we missed out on? As for Nebraska, they were AAU rated at the time they applied, and they were connected geographically and are a good athletic school all around, with even their men's bb looking improved. I didn't love the choice to pick up Nebraska, but I don't think it was a bad pick up. Maryland had the media footprint and decent sports. They've won a Natl Title in football and one in Men's Basketball as well and have truly added to the depth of the conference for Men's BB and also football, too, as not every team can be as good as Mich/OSU/PSU. They have potential to be a good addition to the B1G over time in just about every aspect.

Now, as for Rutgers? Well, their research contribution was not much different than Maryland's and better than Nebraska's and Mizzou's I believe? They had the media footprint that helps the whole conference. As for sports? SEC fans often complain that their conference is TOO good overall, in football, and that it hurts the conference as a whole sometimes? I honestly sort of agree with the SEC fans about this. Now how do SEC teams compensate? Well, they schedule mostly crappy creampuff ooc competition and also schedule one of those games later in the season, so as to give their teams sort of a mid season break of sorts. Does this help their fan experience? I like the way the B1G, as a whole, compensates instead. Most B1G teams with legit bowl game chances tend to try to schedule at least one decent if not really good ooc opponent, which makes up for our having a program like Rutgers in the conference. Instead of having to schedule a weak creampuff mid-season, we can just hope to get Rutgers on our schedule. But Rutgers, at the time they applied or were first considered by the B1G for membership, was coming off a good couple of seasons of football, even cracking the Top 25 once or twice. Granted the BE was kind of a joke of a cfb conference and so easier opponents may have been a factor, but still, they seemed to have potential. And outside of Rutgers, is there a single program in the B1G that is otherwise a guaranteed win in football? I can't think of one? Certain teams have down years, but no team is always consistently an easy win, outside of maybe Rutgers, and that isn't necessarily a problem when the TV money they bring in makes up for other negative factors like possibly lower fan turnout at games maybe?

Now bringing up their BB and VB is silly, as the B1G doesn't need any help in VB. The B1G is easily the best conference in women's VB and I don't think it's even close? Same with wrestling. It was #1 in wrestling before Rutgers and Maryland joined and neither hurt the conf in that sport. As for BB, the only conference that can possibly do better than the B1G on a consistent and regular basis is the ACC, and that's partly because that conference focuses on basketball as it's football has always sucked for the most part. The B1G has never been a one sport conference and never will be. We struggle at spring sports but that is mostly weather related, but otherwise the B1G does pretty good overall in sports.



But bringing this back around, even though college sports seems like there is a lot of money involved and as nice as it would be to be better at football, the REAL money, and where the B1G HAS outdone other conferences, is #1 in Research money, and #2 in TV deals. They never will disregard sports, but it's not and never will be the #1 priority for the B1G conference. Not sure why it's so hard for so many sports fans to understand this aspect? I mean, I know it's easy not to care about such things, but how hard is it to simply be aware of it, lol?
 

PAC is at the same level as Big Ten in vball.
 




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