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    Quote Originally Posted by #2Gopher View Post
    Wasn't an X and O guy either. He left that for his staff.
    Like Fleck, he coached the coaches, as dude cites above. And like Fleck, he played pro ball and took different things from different coaches he played for and worked for, most notably Paul Brown. Grant is considered in the Paul Brown coaching tree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pompous Elitist View Post
    Well, he did mention that he scored an 18 on the ACT. Some of the most insightful, wisest people I know are rank and file blue collar, tradesmen types. Some of the dumbest, least insightful, most gullible people I know have all kinds of credentials behind their names. But, it may imply at least on some level he’s not a details guy, nuts and bolts wizard or maybe doesn’t have the interest some others do. He’d rather be out playing (can’t anymore), mingling, motivating, and speaking which is another type of skill many of us aren’t always skilled at.

    Some guys like Belichik are really intelligent, detail-oriented people. Some are more big idea, salesman, marketing types like Jobs (which is its own kind of intelligence). Some are a little bit of both Jobs and Woz. My feeling is PJ’s on field fortunes may rise and fall with his assistant hires but IF everything works out he is the secret sauce that can take the program to the next level via recruiting and marketing.
    I hate to keep going Grant on this, but the parallels are numerous. I can't even remember the occasion, but a while ago I sat at a banquet table with a lady who went to high school with Bud. She said he wasn't the best and brightest student. And he famously had a hard time staying eligible at the U.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face The Facts View Post
    I think we thought he was recruiter / motivator first, and actual coach second.

    But his team from a penalty stand point is "disciplined" to say the least.
    From listening to post-game press conferences, it sounds like PJ is way more detailed oriented. In other conversations of teaching the WR's, they have a specific plan for teaching WR's and by that he can measure how far along they are coming. He seems to be very detail oriented which might be the reason why we execute at a higher rate than a team like Nebraska.

    Scott Frost seems to think that lifting more weights is going to get you to dominate, but evidently it's not just size and strength.


    Another note, Nebraska is getting the 4 star players. We're getting the 3 star. But if your 4 star thinks they are already good enough, but a 3 star keeps battling to improve, it's a different attitude.
    PJ's improving your best every day mantra plays in well for our guys.
    Naw, PJ had his WMU team near the top in the country in time of possession and fewest penalties. That demonstrates strategy and understanding of the game. It takes discipline to achieve either of these indicators. That’s coaching. Neither just happens by luck or accident.

    The question for me is: Can he sustain success? He left WMU when they got to the top. At MN most of the “stars” were recruited by the previous staff. I’m optimistic but the hardest part of “turnarounds” (we were 9 and 4) is sustaining success. Lots of coaches get teams to the top for a season or two. Keeping it there is extremely difficult.

    Beat Rutgers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Gopher View Post
    I hate to keep going Grant on this, but the parallels are numerous. I can't even remember the occasion, but a while ago I sat at a banquet table with a lady who went to high school with Bud. She said he wasn't the best and brightest student. And he famously had a hard time staying eligible at the U.
    I’ll bet anybody who knows Bud or PJ would not call either one dumb. Both are going to do things their way and don’t care what you think about it. PJ does however seem very aware of his critics. Despite that, he’s staying the course.

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    I admire Fleck. Do his Fleck-isms and repeating of the words “culture” and all that get a little annoying? Sure. But from ALL accounts, who he is on TV and the sideline is who he is in person. He’s a genuinely nice guy. He cares about making young adult athletes he coaches into good football players, and into good citizens. He cares about the community he lives in. He wants to get fans back into the stadium, he wants to make the U of M into a great super power of college football again. Personally I think he can achieve all of these things. His energy and enthusiasm makes people work for him. He’s just one of those people that can make you want to run through a brick wall for him (ref: his halftime talk during last years Badger game). He has very high expectations of his players and he truly never accepts anyone’s performance as being their best. He constantly sets the bar higher for every player. He’s very systematic in how he tries to improve each area of the team. He finds key errors to fix for the next game, and players seem to fix those errors he finds fairly quick. I think while he may not be totally an X’s and O’s coach, he is very good at spotting flaws and faults. Maybe he’s able to do that and relay it to his assistants who do the correcting. I think he’s probably the best coach to come the Gopher’s way in a long long time.


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