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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignatius L Hoops View Post
    OK, it makes sense now.


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    Havenít read this thread the last couple days, but I have a queasy feeling about how this is going down.

    I understand the desire to get out of the middle of these conflicts, but our departure may cost a lot of Kurds lives. I donít trust Erdogan.

    I do think that Congress should step up and authorize military actions if all theyíre going to do is complain about Trumpís withdrawal.

    Itís early yet, but I think Trump may have handled this departure wrong. I said before, I think itís more about campaign promises than strategic thinking.

    Iím very concern about whatís going to happen to these ISIS POWs. We might be back there fighting again without the support of Kurds next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerGopherFan View Post
    Havenít read this thread the last couple days, but I have a queasy feeling about how this is going down.

    I understand the desire to get out of the middle of these conflicts, but our departure may cost a lot of Kurds lives. I donít trust Erdogan.

    I do think that Congress should step up and authorize military actions if all theyíre going to do is complain about Trumpís withdrawal.

    Itís early yet, but I think Trump may have handled this departure wrong. I said before, I think itís more about campaign promises than strategic thinking.

    Iím very concern about whatís going to happen to these ISIS POWs. We might be back there fighting again without the support of Kurds next time.
    Lets not pretend the US had anything to do with taking out ISIS. That was all Russia, Syria, and Iran. Instead, we were propping up ISIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignatius L Hoops View Post
    That's deep. The Kurds didn't defend our airports during the Revolutionary War either. Maybe they deserve this.

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    Nixon was the most corrupt president of the 20th Century. I think we already have a pretty good idea who the most corrupt president of the 21st Century is going to be.


    Donald Trump's longtime business connections in Turkey back in the spotlight

    A call Sunday between Trump and Erdogan, which NBC News reported was set up to ease Erdogan’s anger for not getting a one-on-one meeting with Trump at last month’s United Nations General Assembly gathering, was the latest chapter in a relationship that goes back to before the president’s election and marked yet another milestone Tuesday when Trump announced that he is inviting Erdogan to the White House in November.

    Trump has appeared to side with Erdogan at times throughout his presidency. For example, when Republican senators sought to punish Turkey this summer for its purchase of a Russian missile defense system by pushing the president to impose congressionally mandated sanctions, Trump invited them to a White House meeting to ask for "flexibility" in dealing with the issue. Those sanctions have not been implemented.

    And the fact that Trump made his decision to pull the U.S. troops out of Syria shortly after the phone call with Erdogan has raised alarm bells from policymakers, as well as government ethics watchdog groups who have long seen Trump’s extensive business interests as a potential area for conflicts of interest.


    TRUMP TOWERS - ISTANBUL, TURKEY




    Trump and his family have long had business ties in and with Turkey, the most visible example being the Trump Towers Istanbul, which licenses the Trump name. The Trump Organization describes the buildings on its website as “a landmark in the historic city of Istanbul” and it is the organization’s first and only office and residential tower in Europe, with offices, apartments and upscale shops. The Washington Post has reported that the organization was paid up to $10 million to put the Trump name on the two buildings.

    Erdogan attended the opening ceremony of the office and residential towers in 2012 and Ivanka Trump tweeted a message thanking him for attending, although a photo of Erdogan at the ribbon cutting has been removed from his Facebook page.




    In 2015, Trump acknowledged having a potential “conflict” when it came to issues involving Turkey. “I have a little conflict of interest because I have a major, major building in Istanbul,” Trump said in 2015. “It’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers — two towers, instead of one, not the usual one, it’s two,” Trump said in an interview with Stephen Bannon, then chairman of Breitbart News.

    A lawsuit filed by 29 senators and 186 House Democrats — one of three lawsuits that have alleged that Trump is in violation of the Constitution’s emoluments clauses, which bar the president from receiving monetary or other benefits of value from foreign or U.S. state entities while in office — claims that Turkey has among the highest number of foreign business ventures in which Trump is at least a partial owner, with 119 listed. Others include China, with 115, and the Philippines, with 121.

    Businesses linked to the Turkish government are also major patrons of the Trump Organization. Turkish officials have made 14 visits to Trump properties, more than any other country, according to an analysis performed for NBC News by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, or CREW.

    In the summer of 2016, Erdogan called for the removal of the Trump name from the buildings after Trump called for a ban on individuals from certain Muslim countries traveling to the United States. Then, in November 2016, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, soon to be Trump's first national security adviser, wrote an op-ed favorable to Erdogan, who has consolidated his power and locked up thousands of people after a failed 2016 military coup, including many who had nothing to do with it.

    Flynn, who was paid $530,000 for consulting work in Turkey prior to the 2016 election, violated U.S. law in not registering with the U.S. government for the work until almost a month after he was fired as Trump’s national security adviser in February 2017.

    Trump, at the time, said the U.S. shouldn’t criticize Erdogan for a crackdown that’s included taking over dozens of television and radio stations and arresting reporters, according to Human Rights Watch. He even told reporters he gave “great credit to him for turning it around."

    Read complete article at: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...light-n1064011
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    Just a few links about what's happening in Turkey/Syria:

    https://twitter.com/DanDePetris/stat...29748790280192

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    People start ****ing around with the law and all hell breaks loose. ó Will Teasle

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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    That's deep. The Kurds didn't defend our airports during the Revolutionary War either. Maybe they deserve this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Gopher View Post


    Oops. Even geniuses make mistakes. He "looked at many battles". I guess he did so much research he got mixed up.

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    Can we simply recall these "Republican" leaders and replace them with real Republicans! Trump is about as Republican as a fly is a dinosaur. Moscow Mitch is a corrupt little tool of oligarchs of all nationalities and could care less about Americans or the rule of law. L. Graham is one of the great chameleons of our day. And, talk about forked tongues. He says one thing one day and the opposite the next, depending on the news cycle and audience.

    I am going back into the Republican circuit to rid us of these rats and vermin.
    You can call me Shirley. The "S" has to stand for something!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean S View Post
    Can we simply recall these "Republican" leaders and replace them with real Republicans! Trump is about as Republican as a fly is a dinosaur. Moscow Mitch is a corrupt little tool of oligarchs of all nationalities and could care less about Americans or the rule of law. L. Graham is one of the great chameleons of our day. And, talk about forked tongues. He says one thing one day and the opposite the next, depending on the news cycle and audience.

    I am going back into the Republican circuit to rid us of these rats and vermin.
    You, Justin Amash and Rick Wilson are going to form a whole party all by yourselves?

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