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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Gophs View Post
    I just laugh at this. If guilty, a lifetime ban for Self and a 5 year postseason ban on the university should be the penalty. They will fight it though and maybe take down a banner or two.

    UNC should have been told to do the same. That said, they are just taking advantage of the NCAA to fight themselves out of it. U of M should have done the same thing with Clem. Instead, they bent
    over and let the NCAA hammer them into nothingness. It was their surrender that doomed this program several years ago.

    Do you think kids care if these schools pays their kids when deciding to go there? Heck no, if anything, they are looking for it. Don't expect anything to change until the NCAA gets tough on this. They will keep
    picking winners and losers to fill their pockets and do what is best for them and the level of play in college basketball period.
    Most accurate and best post in the history of Gopherhole.

    Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnBurner View Post
    Most accurate and best post in the history of Gopherhole.

    Well done.

    excusesrforlosers

    levelplayingfield

    Here is the transcript of some of the text messages:


    Gassnola texted the following to Self: “In my mind it’s KU bill self. Everyone else fall into line , to (expletive) bad, that’s what’s right for adidas Basketball. And I know Iam RIGHT. The more you win, have lottery pics. And you happy. That’s how it should work in my mind.”

    Self responded: “That’s how ur (sic) works. At unc and Duke”

    Gassnola: “Kentucky as well”

    Gassnola: “I promise you. I got this , I have never let you down Except (Dyondre) lol"



    I would like to see them hammer Kansas hard for this. Also think they should go after the other cheaters like Coach K, the slimebucket at Kentucky and also tight shirt Roy Williams.
    They are all cheaters and it can all be proven. Level this thing out and take away the unfair advantage these blue bloods have when they are able to funnel bunches of money to recruits.

    Either let everyone pay them, or no one pay them. It isn't right to let a few get away with it and hammer everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Gophs View Post
    Here is the transcript of some of the text messages:


    Gassnola texted the following to Self: “In my mind it’s KU bill self. Everyone else fall into line , to (expletive) bad, that’s what’s right for adidas Basketball. And I know Iam RIGHT. The more you win, have lottery pics. And you happy. That’s how it should work in my mind.”

    Self responded: “That’s how ur (sic) works. At unc and Duke”

    Gassnola: “Kentucky as well”

    Gassnola: “I promise you. I got this , I have never let you down Except (Dyondre) lol"



    I would like to see them hammer Kansas hard for this. Also think they should go after the other cheaters like Coach K, the slimebucket at Kentucky and also tight shirt Roy Williams.
    They are all cheaters and it can all be proven. Level this thing out and take away the unfair advantage these blue bloods have when they are able to funnel bunches of money to recruits.

    Either let everyone pay them, or no one pay them. It isn't right to let a few get away with it and hammer everyone else.
    Second best post ion the history of GH.

    You will never convince the holier than thou GH royalty that there is an unlevel playing field and that it truly does impact non blue blood programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Gophs View Post
    Here is the transcript of some of the text messages:


    Gassnola texted the following to Self: “In my mind it’s KU bill self. Everyone else fall into line , to (expletive) bad, that’s what’s right for adidas Basketball. And I know Iam RIGHT. The more you win, have lottery pics. And you happy. That’s how it should work in my mind.”

    Self responded: “That’s how ur (sic) works. At unc and Duke

    Gassnola: “Kentucky as well”

    Gassnola: “I promise you. I got this , I have never let you down Except (Dyondre) lol"



    I would like to see them hammer Kansas hard for this. Also think they should go after the other cheaters like Coach K, the slimebucket at Kentucky and also tight shirt Roy Williams.
    They are all cheaters and it can all be proven. Level this thing out and take away the unfair advantage these blue bloods have when they are able to funnel bunches of money to recruits.

    Either let everyone pay them, or no one pay them. It isn't right to let a few get away with it and hammer everyone else.
    Wait!!!!!

    K does not cheat and is the most wonderful coach!!!!! Right built?

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    Quote Originally Posted by builtbadgers View Post
    It is foolish but the NCAA actually does not have a rule against a full department of fake classes. They do have a rule against a tutor doing the work which is what hammered Missouri. NCAA tried to hit UNC with improper benefits for athletes which was really a poor legal approach because those classes were available to the general student population. Airtight case for UNC. Really scum by UNC, gutless by the accreditation body, inept by the NCAA for not having the rule.
    How exactly did you come up with this? If they were taking sham classes....I would think that would make their players ineligible regardless of whether there is a specifically worded rule against fake classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocker08 View Post
    How exactly did you come up with this? If they were taking sham classes....I would think that would make their players ineligible regardless of whether there is a specifically worded rule against fake classes.
    Fake classes = OK.

    Fake papers = Not OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocker08 View Post
    How exactly did you come up with this? If they were taking sham classes....I would think that would make their players ineligible regardless of whether there is a specifically worded rule against fake classes.
    If the sham classes were available only to athletes, the situation would have been different. UNC exploited a loophole by making those sham classes available to all students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Söze View Post
    If the sham classes were available only to athletes, the situation would have been different. UNC exploited a loophole by making those sham classes available to all students.
    So an athlete is still eligible if another non-athlete student also takes the fake class. Got it. Not sure where this world is headed with that logic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CentralGopher View Post
    So an athlete is still eligible if another non-athlete student also takes the fake class. Got it. Not sure where this world is headed with that logic.


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    I'm not defending UNC, but I can see why it would be hard for the NCAA to punish a team for allowing players to take a class that is available to every student at an accredited university. Clearly it's BS that those players were allowed to be in such easy classes as I'm sure they were intended to give the athletics programs an advantage, so I get the frustration, but I'm not sure how you would define/enforce rules against it. It's easy if the classes are only available to athletes, but more complicated when any student can take the class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Söze View Post
    I'm not defending UNC, but I can see why it would be hard for the NCAA to punish a team for allowing players to take a class that is available to every student at an accredited university. Clearly it's BS that those players were allowed to be in such easy classes as I'm sure they were intended to give the athletics programs an advantage, so I get the frustration, but I'm not sure how you would define/enforce rules against it. It's easy if the classes are only available to athletes, but more complicated when any student can take the class.
    I read somewhere that these fake classes being available to all students was only a formality. Athletes would obviously be given the first chance to sign up for these classes (and most were directed to them by advisers), and IF there was anything left over, UNC would theoretically keep seats open to general students when they were allowed to sign up for the semester, but open seats were very rare.

    These absolutely were designed for athletes, but UNC knew the loophole would work. Just bullsh$t. Accreditation should be completely stripped...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopherguy15 View Post
    I read somewhere that these fake classes being available to all students was only a formality. Athletes would obviously be given the first chance to sign up for these classes (and most were directed to them by advisers), and IF there was anything left over, UNC would theoretically keep seats open to general students when they were allowed to sign up for the semester, but open seats were very rare.

    These absolutely were designed for athletes, but UNC knew the loophole would work. Just bullsh$t. Accreditation should be completely stripped...
    I don't doubt that at all.

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    This is an affront to reason and common sense. It’s not permissible to provide athletes special privileges that other students can’t access. Athletes can’t stay eligible if they take fake classes. Mash those two ideas together and we’re supposed to swallow that athletes can take fake classes and stay eligible as long as those fake classes are available to non-athletes? And the NCAA wonders why the have a credibility problem with fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Söze View Post
    I'm not defending UNC, but I can see why it would be hard for the NCAA to punish a team for allowing players to take a class that is available to every student at an accredited university. Clearly it's BS that those players were allowed to be in such easy classes as I'm sure they were intended to give the athletics programs an advantage, so I get the frustration, but I'm not sure how you would define/enforce rules against it. It's easy if the classes are only available to athletes, but more complicated when any student can take the class.
    Spot on.

    That was a complicated situation. There's no way the NCAA could have levied any punishment against UNC without opening a can of worms far above their pay grade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzle22 View Post
    Spot on.

    That was a complicated situation. There's no way the NCAA could have levied any punishment against UNC without opening a can of worms far above their pay grade.
    So then, their job is to pick and choose "cans of worms". Just like they pick and choose winners and losers.

    #excusesareforlosers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Söze View Post
    I'm not defending UNC, but I can see why it would be hard for the NCAA to punish a team for allowing players to take a class that is available to every student at an accredited university. Clearly it's BS that those players were allowed to be in such easy classes as I'm sure they were intended to give the athletics programs an advantage, so I get the frustration, but I'm not sure how you would define/enforce rules against it. It's easy if the classes are only available to athletes, but more complicated when any student can take the class.
    It’s not about athlete privilege, it’s about academic eligibility. And it should not be difficult to punish an athletic team whose school is not adhering (especially knowingly) to its accreditation regardless of any bias towards athletes, while the whole remaining body of ncaa schools adheres.




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