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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthSeeker View Post
    That's why you don't ever draft a kicker you dummy. You can find great ones all the time without using draft picks.
    My grades for Spielman era draft picks by position.

    QB: F
    RB: C
    WR: C
    OL: D
    DL: B
    LB: B+
    DB: B
    PK: D

    Isn't it ironic that the Vikings have a defensive minded HC and the defensive draft picks have been on average better that the offensive draft picks?

    I would say the scouting of offensive players is their weakness and when you want to score points that is a turrible, turrible thing to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Gopher View Post
    OK, but... I've thought about this a little more, and I think people reflexively criticize Spielmann. What he did was draft a talented place kicker who's now on an NFL roster and doing very well. He could very well end up in the Pro Bowl at some point. That sounds like a good personnel move to me.
    If you want to spend a 7th round pick in a kicker, fine. But anything higher than that is almost always a waste, even if they turn out, like Janikowski, who the Raiders used a 1st rounder on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocker08 View Post
    The Vikings screwed the kicker situation up bad. Forbath was better than fine. In the NFC Divisional game that we still needed the "miracle" in order to win.....Forbath hit a 53 yard field goal with about a minute and a half remaining in the game to put the Vikings up 23-21. Considering our history of kickers choking under pressure.....we got rid of a guy that hit a long field goal in a clutch moment of a playoff game.

    There was absolutely no reason to draft Carlson.
    Agreed. Although I do find it odd that no one has signed Forbath since. I've heard various radio guys talk about how he was a weird dude. But as long as he makes his kicks, who cares?

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    Vikings bringing back Laquon Treadwell, Marcus Sherels with Chad Beebe injured

    With receiver Chad Beebe out because of torn ligaments in his ankle, the Vikings reached back into their recent past Tuesday and called on two players to take his place before Sunday’s game in Chicago.

    The Vikings are bringing back Laquon Treadwell, the 2016 first-round pick who was released at the end of training camp, and Marcus Sherels, the team’s career leading punt returner they let walk this spring.

    Treadwell, who’d had several workouts but hadn’t signed with another team, returns as the Vikings’ fourth healthy receiver with Beebe being placed on injured reserve. Sherels, who also had been a free agent, could be returning punts again as soon as Sunday.

    And both could stay awhile in their comebacks. Beebe tore ligaments in his ankle while blocking for tight end Irv Smith Jr. during Sunday’s 34-14 victory over the Raiders, according to an NFL source, and will be out a minimum of eight weeks. Beebe is not planning to have surgery for now, the source said.

    http://www.startribune.com/vikings-p...kle/561225232/

    Skol Vikes!!

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    I'm happy about Sherels.

    Why would you bring back Treadwell? Go get anybody else...
    Who hates iowa?

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    He knows the playbook.

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    Who'd they cut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gopherguy0723 View Post
    He knows the playbook.
    Who cares. Take a chance on someone new. You already know Treadwell sucks.
    Who hates iowa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bottlebass View Post
    Who cares. Take a chance on someone new. You already know Treadwell sucks.
    He's the 4th WR on a team that almost never uses even a 3rd WR, let alone a 4th. If disaster happens and either Thielen or Diggs are hurt, they will start Bisi Johnson and/or seek out yet another WR at that time who they think they can trust. Irv Smith is the de facto 3rd WR right now and it is unlikely Treadwell will ever see the field in any meaningful capacity unless Johnson and Smith are both hurt. They also signed Sherels to cover Beebe's return responsibilities. Treadwell is a warm body who can play in an absolute emergency situation and the Vikings were already paying him for this season anyway. It's a non-issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bottlebass View Post
    Who cares. Take a chance on someone new. You already know Treadwell sucks.
    I agree with you, but that's why he's back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bottlebass View Post
    Who cares. Take a chance on someone new. You already know Treadwell sucks.
    They needed someone on short notice. Depending on how long Doctson/Bebee are out, it could be a 1-2 week thing and then they bring in someone else. There's a few ex-Broncos floating around that could probably pick up the offense quickly too.

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    Nevermind. The situation makes sense now.

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    Honest question for the brain trust here on Gopherhole: what is the point of paying Thielen, Diggs, Cousins, and Rudolph big money if your offensive philosophy is to use them as little as possible? If you don't want to pass, then why not redistribute your resources to enhance your run game?

    Zimmer's and Spielman's roster construction of this team is awful.

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    We Vikings fans are Rubes if we believe that Cousins, Zimmer and Spielmen are dping their best for the money that they are paid.


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    Spielman needs to be the first to go. He has no clue how to construct a team, especially an OL.

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