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    Quote Originally Posted by justthefacts View Post

    Really really good piece that completely misses the point. They don't HATE America. They just hate the present state. And also the past.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    If the Democrats had a candidate who gave a sh$t about white Americans who have 2-year degrees they would win in a landslide.
    A very wise comment.

    Regarding Trump, I think he is thinned-skinned, narcissistic, and impulsive. I think his researchers, like Brad Parscale (genius), tell him what generally gets news attention and what would be disruptive for the Dems, then Trump responds in a not so precise manner. Trump has a tendency to step on his own best message (the economy) and Dem fiascos when they’re in the middle of them.

    Trump is not a role model in any way, shape, or form.

    But he is what people voted for and is the duly elected President, and voters didn’t want a role model for President this time. They were tired of traditional Republicans that danced around issues and got eaten alive and Democrats that keep moving farther left and forgot about the average American.

    A lot of voters wanted a brawler and they got one. If the GOP had the media on their side like the Dems do, we wouldn’t need a brawler.

    Btw, can anyone name the last GOP President or presidential nominee that wasn’t called a racist? It’s what Dems do. Identity politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bga1 View Post
    what was the racist rhetoric? I am entirely confident that if a white person from Germany came here and pronounced that America's systems stink, Trump would be happy to say- "If you don't like America, then leave.." Was there something else he said that you can cite?
    Because all of them are Americans and three of them were born here. How do you find this so hard to understand? If you can’t see telling a person of color to go back where they came from is racist then there can’t be anymore debate. To me that is pretty irrational. I personally don’t like all the things some of the four have said but I know racist rhetoric and Trump was being racist. He is often racist. I find him a major embarrassment.

    With social media slanting things either direction - or Fox News on one side or MSNBC on the other side it is all hard to stomach. So much division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XMan View Post
    Because all of them are Americans and three of them were born here. How do you find this so hard to understand? If you can’t see telling a person of color to go back where they came from is racist then there can’t be anymore debate. To me that is pretty irrational. I personally don’t like all the things some of the four have said but I know racist rhetoric and Trump was being racist. He is often racist. I find him a major embarrassment.

    With social media slanting things either direction - or Fox News on one side or MSNBC on the other side it is all hard to stomach. So much division.
    It's not racist - don't get suckered like this. This is a political ploy, nothing more.

    Who cares where they are born or what color they are? If you want a better system and you think that another place in the world is better then go there. It's that simple. Not everything has a race component. What is the difference between telling a white person to leave or a black person? Nothing, if we ever intend to be a post racial society.

    One of the four (Pressley) was out saying that they don't want anymore brown voices who are going to speak up for the brown cause. Whaaat? What if Trump said he wanted all white people to take up the white cause? RACIST! She says the opposite and no one says anything. They put the minorities out there to slime Trump thinking he can't reply. It's purely a political ploy and Trump is right to face them down and let them scream.

    So if disagreeing with you means no more debate- then so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerGopherFan View Post

    Regarding Trump, I think he is thinned-skinned, narcissistic, and impulsive.

    Trump is not a role model in any way, shape, or form.
    But you still love what he's doing and can't wait to vote for him, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XMan View Post
    Because all of them are Americans and three of them were born here. How do you find this so hard to understand? If you can’t see telling a person of color to go back where they came from is racist then there can’t be anymore debate. To me that is pretty irrational. I personally don’t like all the things some of the four have said but I know racist rhetoric and Trump was being racist. He is often racist. I find him a major embarrassment.

    With social media slanting things either direction - or Fox News on one side or MSNBC on the other side it is all hard to stomach. So much division.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    But you still love what he's doing and can't wait to vote for him, right?
    Versus voting for a candidate from the left that wants to make the US more socialist, yes, I’ll vote for him...this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bga1 View Post
    what was the racist rhetoric? I am entirely confident that if a white person from Germany came here and pronounced that America's systems stink, Trump would be happy to say- "If you don't like America, then leave.." Was there something else he said that you can cite?
    As you know, humble beggar, “Go back where you came from!” is a historically racist trope.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiche View Post
    As you know, humble beggar, “Go back where you came from!” is a historically racist trope.
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    What about “go back to where you came from...then come back and show us how it’s done”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerGopherFan View Post
    What about “go back to where you came from...then come back and show us how it’s done”?
    Because they are from here. To tell them to go back to where they came from when they are Americans (but are not white) is why it is racist. Someone posted earlier in this thread something like “if a white Canadian came over and made comments about our system would it be racist to tell him to go home?” That statement right there is tied to a racist slant that because the four congresswomen are not white they aren’t real Americans and can go back to where they came from. That is racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XMan View Post
    Because they are from here. To tell them to go back to where they came from when they are Americans (but are not white) is why it is racist. Someone posted earlier in this thread something like “if a white Canadian came over and made comments about our system would it be racist to tell him to go home?” That statement right there is tied to a racist slant that because the four congresswomen are not white they aren’t real Americans and can go back to where they came from. That is racist.
    Right, he should’ve more accurately said “love it or leave it”.

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    So, here's the tweets. Are the tweets referring to Ilhan Omar since she was born in Somalia?
    What makes the tweets racist?
    I think they are insensitive and incredibly simplistic, but I need more information to declare them racist.

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    We know that they’re are racist b/c the news media and the Democrats have told us so. Relentlessly. From every corner of the lefty world. Even from the Speaker of the House, on the House floor.

    And if you don’t accept that, they will call you a racist too.

    Maybe even if you do. Ask Nancy the Racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
    So, here's the tweets. Are the tweets referring to Ilhan Omar since she was born in Somalia?
    What makes the tweets racist?
    I think they are insensitive and incredibly simplistic, but I need more information to declare them racist.
    Because they are errors of fact predicated on a belief of what real Americans look like. This isn’t hard. Go back where you came from. Well, I came from here. Well go back to where your parents came from. You too, Mr. President...
    Edit. A nitpick as he has claimed to be the son of an immigrant...or something... it’s hard to pin down.
    Last edited by saintpaulguy; 07-16-2019 at 08:35 PM.

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    Or, another way. Forget what country a person is born in. If you are having a political dispute with another American citizen, is go back where you came from a good retort? Righties make a lot of identity politics, what is this?

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