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    Quote Originally Posted by builtbadgers View Post
    Are you thinking that UW will have a losing conference record ? Do you think they are well coached ?
    They had one two years ago. There not poorly coached, but Gard is no Bo Ryan, he needs a better base of talent to work with then Bo did. They have recruited poorly and we all know no team ever stays completely healthy, that poor recruiting will catch up this year. There 2020 class is solid, but that does nothing for next year Surprised they haven't offered Crowl, he's like a poor man's Reuvers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigeddysprings View Post
    Potter was not a bust according to the OSU guys. Even they said they played him out of position. Then the injury. Hedstrom was never on the gophers radar. He was a walk on last year for us. Can't teach 7'0..as far as expectations. That is why I said he was a question mark. Davison can shoot..What are you talking about? King is much more than a bench player. Pritzl is a good 6th man that is a great shooter. Reuvers could be pretty special. This team will be much better than its parts. I thought you were one of the reasonable guys here that liked to talk hoops. I guess I was wrong. 10 Scholarship players not 9 Wrong again.
    Hedstrom, Pritzel, King, Brad, Reuvers, Trice, Ford, Potter, Wahl, that's nine, if Potter has to sit out that's right, unless you gave a walkon a scholly, then good for you I guess. Not on the radar is the definition of reject, it means they didn't want him. Iam very reasonable, I am not pretending it's sunshine and rainbows like you're that our best player is gone, were a bubble team at best this year. It comes down to the fact that you guys don't have enough talent, you're wishing and hoping that a couple of walkons, an injured transfer, will magically step up and you're calling me unreasonable. Might of happened with Bo, but Gard has made Pitino look like a genius with his roster management and that's hard to do. How does a Big Ten program lack the amount of players you do? As far as Brad's shooting goes, what were you watching? Yeah he's scrappy, I'll even concede that he's okay at shooting, but an assassin he is not, exhibit A the Oregon game, little Walter is the only one who hit a three all day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigeddysprings View Post
    Davison can shoot..What are you talking about?
    Well...

    Shooting is one thing. Actually making them is quite another.

    Davison 2017-18 FG%: .405
    Davison 2018-19 FG%: .385

    Yikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SelectionSunday View Post
    My current projection of Gophers is 9th in Big Ten, among "10 to Keep An Eye On" nationally. I guess that means I see them as a potential bubble team. I'd define my reasonable expectation for the 2019-20 Gophers as a NIT bid. Too many unknowns for me to go higher than that.
    So then why bother??

    Just wait. Let the unknowns become knowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bemidjigopher View Post
    They had one two years ago. There not poorly coached, but Gard is no Bo Ryan, he needs a better base of talent to work with then Bo did. They have recruited poorly and we all know no team ever stays completely healthy, that poor recruiting will catch up this year. There 2020 class is solid, but that does nothing for next year Surprised they haven't offered Crowl, he's like a poor man's Reuvers.

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    Well thought out and fair. I simply disagree. They went 14-6 last year, losing Happ is a large adjustment but internal improvement is a program staple and they will have better movement and terrific defense. 14-6 is a high mark but i do see a winning conference record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by builtbadgers View Post
    Well thought out and fair. I simply disagree. They went 14-6 last year, losing Happ is a large adjustment but internal improvement is a program staple and they will have better movement and terrific defense. 14-6 is a high mark but i do see a winning conference record.
    Agree that Wisconsin does a great job developing guys. I worry about their ability to score. Happ would bail them out of a lot of possessions at the end of shot clocks. I just don't know who that is for them yet. Big ten will be interesting this year and I just dont think it's as deep. That being said I still think they are a top 8 team as well. I see larger drops from Iowa and other teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by manderson1984 View Post
    Agree that Wisconsin does a great job developing guys. I worry about their ability to score. Happ would bail them out of a lot of possessions at the end of shot clocks. I just don't know who that is for them yet. Big ten will be interesting this year and I just dont think it's as deep. That being said I still think they are a top 8 team as well. I see larger drops from Iowa and other teams
    I share your concern on scoring but i think the versatility on spacing and movement will benefit King, Ford and Nate. My respect for the high level of teaching skills that Gard has is real. Not everyone is great at stressing the things that come together to pile up wins. It will be very interesting to me who wins more, the Gophers or UW. They both lost their most valuable players and face many similar challenges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigeddysprings View Post
    Potter was not a bust according to the OSU guys. Even they said they played him out of position. Then the injury. Hedstrom was never on the gophers radar. He was a walk on last year for us. Can't teach 7'0..as far as expectations. That is why I said he was a question mark. Davison can shoot..What are you talking about? King is much more than a bench player. Pritzl is a good 6th man that is a great shooter. Reuvers could be pretty special. This team will be much better than its parts. I thought you were one of the reasonable guys here that liked to talk hoops. I guess I was wrong. 10 Scholarship players not 9 Wrong again.
    According to what OSU guys? Most players are never going to criticize a teammate to the media, and high paid coaches shouldn't knock an amateur who's transferring to play more, it's just sour grapes for a coach to do that, but whether the coach criticizes them on the way out or not is meaningless because all coaches manipulate the media anyway. The only angst from an OSU standpoint is the dude bolted on the team at the last possible instant and gave them literally no opportunity to replace him prior to the season. Potter is a fairly 1-dimensional player, he brings shooting. He is too slow of foot to play adequate defense against top college competition, that is why he was not starting and lost minutes to Kyle Young.

    You don't have the genius of Bo Ryan to rely on at all anymore, so you can't just assume this team is going to outperform recruiting expectations. The roster has gone downhill since Bo left and this is going to be another NIT type Badger team (second in 3 years).

    I also see Iowa being worse than Joe's projections. I do not see them as being more than a bubble team, and probably will miss the tourney altogether.

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