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    Quote Originally Posted by dpodoll68 View Post
    He may or may have done something wrong, but by the law he wasn't found guilty of domestic abuse. I'm totally right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bottlebass View Post
    Thanks - post corrected.

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    Well you are right about one thing, he wasn't found guilty he just plead guilty. Which makes him guilty and no longer "accused". You don't plead guilty if you did nothing wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bottlebass View Post
    Well you are right about one thing, he wasn't found guilty he just plead guilty. Which makes him guilty and no longer "accused". You don't plead guilty if you did nothing wrong.
    He wasn't found guilty of domestic abuse, as I've accurately stated several times now. Just stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpodoll68 View Post
    He wasn't found guilty of domestic abuse, as I've accurately stated several times now. Just stop.
    He plead guilty to a lesser charge. Must have had some pretty overwhelming evidence for him to just plead guilty. Not sure why you are defending this woman beater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bottlebass View Post
    He plead guilty to a lesser charge. Must have had some pretty overwhelming evidence for him to just plead guilty. Not sure why you are defending this woman beater.
    I'm not defending him, I'm defending accuracy. He plead guilty to a misdemeanor - essentially the equivalent of running a stoplight or drinking in public.

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    Urban needs a change of scenery about every 6-7 years for his mental health, that is his real health problem. I have worked with people with exactly the same problem, they need to reset and have a complete change of responsibility or they go nuts. It is literally a perspective problem. After they have been in a job for a while, they only see the bad stuff they have not been able to fix and it drives them into the ground. They need a change of responsibility or it crushes them. Deep down inside they believe if they were as good as they think they are there would be no problems, you can tell them that people understand they can't be perfect, but it doesn't help..
    They need a clean slate where the problems are not things they feel like they should have done already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpodoll68 View Post
    I'm not defending him, I'm defending accuracy. He plead guilty to a misdemeanor - essentially the equivalent of running a stoplight or drinking in public.
    I don't think you understand how pleading to a lesser charge works...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpodoll68 View Post
    I'm not wrong. He pled guilty to disorderly conduct as part of a plea deal, a far cry from domestic abuse as was alleged in the post I was responding to.
    Actually, the post you responded to didn’t suggest he plead guilty to domestic abuse, in fact it only said he was accused of it, in fact you bolded the word “accused” in that post so I think you know that.

    The truth is he was accused of domestic abuse (as the post you responded to claimed), and the fact is for someone accused of such a crime (that pleads out and is slapped with a restraining order as part of it) to name his podcast “Menace 2 Society” is a dirtbag move (as the post you responded to claimed).

    So what part did you object to?


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    Actually you’re all wrong. He was accused of criminal trespass. The details on that are open to interpretation. I suggest you look into it.

    The extended family is full of drama and dirtbags. Birds of a feather... sleep with dogs...drinking, cheating, divorcing. The most interesting part of the fiasco is the revelations/accusations about the TX head coach and his wife...speaking of dirtbags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck_Buchanan View Post
    Again, and IMO only, if Meyer can go to USC and win a National Title, he will have done something Nick Saban will never do - nor care to do. 3 Schools / 3 Separate Conferences. His ego will be fuller. Saban has 2 Separate Schools / 1 Conference (SEC). At least, that’s my theory. It’s not about $$ as much as the challenge of getting his already massive ego fed. I don’t think any coach has 3 different schools as National Champions and he’s going to strategically pick where that route is more realistic than not. He would have comparable resources/support as what he had at UF and tOSU.
    He’d have a great chance at it. One has to wonder how long Saban will stay at it, and whether Dabo has the staying power at Clemson (seems likely near-term). Oklahoma is still good but not dominant and the new coach will be increasingly on his own outside of Stoop’s residuals. Other helmet schools are treading water or faltering - FSU, Michigan, TX, etc.

    If this happens the PAC -12 gets real interesting again with UCLA, USC, Washington, Stanford, Utah, WA State having good to great coaches. National relevance and power shifts seem to be cyclical. Obviously media likes to focus more on east coast schools with their tie-ins, favorable game times, etc but not an insurmountable obstacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pompous Elitist View Post
    He’d have a great chance at it. One has to wonder how long Saban will stay at it, and whether Dabo has the staying power at Clemson (seems likely near-term). Oklahoma is still good but not dominant and the new coach will be increasingly on his own outside of Stoop’s residuals. Other helmet schools are treading water or faltering - FSU, Michigan, TX, etc.

    If this happens the PAC -12 gets real interesting again with UCLA, USC, Washington, Stanford, Utah, WA State having good to great coaches. National relevance and power shifts seem to be cyclical. Obviously media likes to focus more on east coast schools with their tie-ins, favorable game times, etc but not an insurmountable obstacle.
    Huskies seem to be on verge of something big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pompous Elitist View Post
    Actually you’re all wrong. He was accused of criminal trespass. The details on that are open to interpretation. I suggest you look into it.
    According to USA Today and a bunch of others I found in a Google search, I will have to disagree with you on this.

    I think we all can agree he is a dirtbag.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoofin View Post
    According to USA Today and a bunch of others I found in a Google search, I will have to disagree with you on this.

    I think we all can agree he is a dirtbag.


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    Maybe this is wrong? I don’t recall he was ever charged on assault, domestic or otherwise. There were long threads hashing out the ugly relationship.

    https://www.10tv.com/article/zach-sm...rderly-conduct

    According to court records, Zach Smith was charged with criminal trespassing in May following an incident with his ex-wife Courtney Smith. On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of disorderly conduct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pompous Elitist View Post
    Maybe this is wrong? I don’t recall he was ever charged on assault, domestic or otherwise. There were long threads hashing out the ugly relationship.
    No, you are right. Accused, but never charged with domestic abuse.

    My point wasn’t on his guilt anyway - agreed with poster that someone accused of that, who has a protection order against him, has been arrested for violating that order, who has been arrested for a scene at an elementary school, etc., etc. is a dirtbag for naming his podcast “Menace 2 Society”. Oh, and I enjoyed DPO’ing DPO on semantics.


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