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    Default Reusse: On court, pals Moe Hargrow, Joe Mauer put on a show

    per Pat:

    Maurice Hargrow moved from Springfield, Ohio, to St. Paul during a blizzard in the late winter of 1991, as a third-grader. The family found an apartment on Dale Street and the lad known as “Moe” discovered Oxford Playground and the Jimmy Lee Rec Center once the snow stopped.

    The basketball team that was assembled when Moe was in the fourth grade included Joe Mauer.

    “Joe was playing for Jimmy Lee before I got there,” Hargrow said. “And I think he was the only white kid we had on our team until the eighth grade.

    “Teams didn’t like it when Jimmy Lee showed up for a tournament. We would run and press, steal the ball and shoot layups. The parents on the other team would complain, but we were just young kids, going as fast as we could.”

    Could the Caucasian lad keep up? Hargrow laughed and said:

    “Joe was special, a natural. In the fourth grade, he had this Pistol Pete [Maravich] move. He would go hard with his right hand, fake left, then keep going righthanded, and he’d get you every time.”

    Moe and Joe became buddies. “Teresa, Joe’s mom, would pick me up almost every day for practice,” Hargrow said. “And I spent a lot of time hanging out at Joe’s house.”

    Hargrow said there were so many first-place trophies, medals and ribbons from the Jimmy Lee days that there still are drawers full in unknown locations.

    He paused and said: “Joe was selected for a traveling team called the Minnesota Ice; I think it was the fifth grade. And his grandfather went to an early practice and told the coach, ‘There’s another kid that should be on this team — Moe Hargrow.

    “Because of playing for Minnesota Ice, I wound up playing for Streets, and then I wound up playing for Howard Pulley, and because of Pulley, I wound up being recruited by major schools.”

    Hargrow played 3˝ seasons for the Gophers, peaking at 13.2 points per game as a sophomore in 2002-03. His college career included a transfer semester at Arkansas (he didn’t play there) when he was crossways with coach Dan Monson.

    Moe played nine seasons of international basketball in the United Kingdom, Austria, Luxembourg, Qatar, Japan, Morocco and Colombia. Mauer played 15 seasons for the Twins, won three batting titles, was an MVP and will have his No. 7 retired this weekend at Target Field.

    “He was one of the first friends I made when I moved to St. Paul,” Hargrow said. “Joe — and Big Jake and Teresa, and Grandpa … I love the Mauers.”

    http://www.startribune.com/on-court-...how/511328642/

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    I still have nightmares about playing Jimmy Lee as a kid. We couldn't even get the ball past mid-court most of the time.

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    Great story, I did not know any of this. Too bad Reusse doesn’t write more stories like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkAz View Post
    Great story, I did not know any of this. Too bad Reusse doesn’t write more stories like this.
    Thats true. Normally he is ripping on someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoolAid View Post
    I still have nightmares about playing Jimmy Lee as a kid. We couldn't even get the ball past mid-court most of the time.
    Haha. I remember the same. We thought we were pretty good. Then we played Jimmy Lee.

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    Mauer stole money from the Twins for years. 23 million a year for a slap hitting, 8 HR, 60 RBI hitter.

    I've never understand the Mauer fascination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldteam View Post
    Mauer stole money from the Twins for years. 23 million a year for a slap hitting, 8 HR, 60 RBI hitter.

    I've never understand the Mauer fascination.
    The contract was not Joe's fault. And 3 batting titles isn't too shabby.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldteam View Post
    Mauer stole money from the Twins for years. 23 million a year for a slap hitting, 8 HR, 60 RBI hitter.

    I've never understand the Mauer fascination.
    You're right, Joe should've said no that's too much money. He probably should give some of it back too. Also should tell them to unretire his number... I hate these takes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldteam View Post
    Mauer stole money from the Twins for years. 23 million a year for a slap hitting, 8 HR, 60 RBI hitter.

    I've never understand the Mauer fascination.
    Mauer was paid an amount that matched his previous achievements, including batting titles and an MVP, who in theory was about to be in his prime. Several other teams would have ponied up the same amount if he had not accepted the Twins offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldteam View Post
    Mauer stole money from the Twins for years. 23 million a year for a slap hitting, 8 HR, 60 RBI hitter.

    I've never understand the Mauer fascination.
    Mauer is a border-line Hall of Famer who due to injuries was overpaid for a few years on a contract that was perfectly reasonable when it was signed. Get over it and move on people. I wonder if Angels fans piss and moan this much about Pujols, whose contract is far, far worse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manderson1984 View Post
    You're right, Joe should've said no that's too much money. He probably should give some of it back too. Also should tell them to unretire his number... I hate these takes.
    It's what any good Minnesotan like GoldTeam would have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ope3 View Post
    Mauer was paid an amount that matched his previous achievements, including batting titles and an MVP, who in theory was about to be in his prime. Several other teams would have ponied up the same amount if he had not accepted the Twins offer.
    And Twins fans would have been outside Target Field with torches screaming about how the Pohlads lied about needing a new stadium to keep players like Mauer. I swear the crossover between the fans that scream "cheap Pohlads" every winter and the ones who cried about "$23 million" for 8 years is about 90%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    Mauer is a border-line Hall of Famer who due to injuries was overpaid for a few years on a contract that was perfectly reasonable when it was signed. Get over it and move on people. I wonder if Angels fans piss and moan this much about Pujols, whose contract is far, far worse?
    He was overpaid severely for his whole contract. Just flipping brutal. 8 flipping years of a slap hitter getting 23 million in the 3 hole most of the time too. Had they kept him at 23 million this year, they would not have paid a lot of these new guys and would not be close to 10 games in front.

    As for Pujols, he has 12 HR's and 40 Rbi's as of today. That's a whole year for Mauer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    And Twins fans would have been outside Target Field with torches screaming about how the Pohlads lied about needing a new stadium to keep players like Mauer. I swear the crossover between the fans that scream "cheap Pohlads" every winter and the ones who cried about "$23 million" for 8 years is about 90%.
    I am glad Maeur got to stay here. If he would have gone to the Yankees or Red Sox on that deal, they'd have ran him out of town.

    It was a blessing for Joe to stay in Minnesota. No expectations in Minnesota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldteam View Post
    He was overpaid severely for his whole contract. Just flipping brutal.

    As for Pujols, he has 12 HR's and 40 Rbi's as of today. That's a whole year for Mauer.
    He wasn't. As a catcher, he was not over-paid.

    Pujols is also hitting .235 and over the last 3 years is averaging ~.240 with about 22 HR's and an OPS barely over .700. For this he has been paid $84 million. Mauer's last 3 seasons, he averaged ~.283 BA and .760 OPS while being paid $69 million. He was also a far better defensive first baseman.

    Also, Pujols is owed another $87 million for the next 3 years, his age 40, 41 and 42 seasons. I'm sure they'll get their $'s worth.

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