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    US Women's soccer is hard to watch to begin with. It's all size/power/speed & virtually no creativity or skill. They run it up on inferior opponents, take cheap shots when they're winning & act like it's some amazing achievement. Then they act like jerks when they lose as well.

    Add to the horrible style of soccer, their poor sportsmanship, the constant whining about not earning equal pay as the men (a preposterous argument) & now politicizing the game by refusing to stand for the anthem to get at Trump, and they're a hard pass for me.

    I've got high level female soccer players & I don't want them watching this team. I'm embarrassed that they represent our country.
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    I watched the game. They are strong physical and skilled. Americans are not used to watching that quality of soccer and seem confused by it. They dominated an undersized team that played scared to pass the ball, and the US took advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    They are protesting for equal pay? I would have to guess that hundreds, even thousands, of female soccer players across the country would give just about anything to wear the red, white and blue in the World Cup for nothing. This seems really strange.

    Doesn't move the needle for me on whether or not I would watch or not but it just seems kind of odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Costa Rican Gopher View Post
    US Women's soccer is hard to watch to begin with. It's all size/power/speed & virtually no creativity or skill. They run it up on inferior opponents, take cheap shots when they're winning & act like it's some amazing achievement. Then they act like jerks when they lose as well.

    Add to the horrible style of soccer, their poor sportsmanship, the constant whining about not earning equal pay as the men (a preposterous argument) & now politicizing the game by refusing to stand for the anthem to get at Trump, and they're a hard pass for me.

    I've got high level female soccer players & I don't want them watching this team. I'm embarrassed that they represent our country.
    I'll agree for the most part about their style of play. They might be the best team, but it is mostly because of superior athleticism. Their technical skills are not as good as some of the other top tier squads in the world.

    Also agree on the equal pay thing. They don't bring in anywhere close to the revenue the men's team does. I'm all for them being compensated fairly, but they don't deserve to be paid as much as the men.

    Think you are mistaken on the refusing to stand for the anthem. That was one time in 2016 (before the election, so I don't know what it would have had to do with Trump), and it was by only one player and it wasn't at a national team game. It was a game for her club team in Chicago. At their game yesterday she was standing for the anthem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzle22 View Post
    I'll agree for the most part about their style of play. They might be the best team, but it is mostly because of superior athleticism. Their technical skills are not as good as some of the other top tier squads in the world.

    Also agree on the equal pay thing. They don't bring in anywhere close to the revenue the men's team does. I'm all for them being compensated fairly, but they don't deserve to be paid as much as the men.

    Think you are mistaken on the refusing to stand for the anthem. That was one time in 2016 (before the election, so I don't know what it would have had to do with Trump), and it was by only one player and it wasn't at a national team game. It was a game for her club team in Chicago. At their game yesterday she was standing for the anthem.
    They're bigger, faster & stronger, but it's pretty ugly to watch. It's like rooting for the Kobra Kai dojo. I see so many female youth players emulating this style & it sucks. Sadly, it's often encouraged by the Dad's who never played the game. They wish they had boys & were at hockey or football, so they try to turn soccer into that. "Lay her out Brittney!!!" "Get aggressive Ashley, GET AGGRESSIVE!!!!". The higher level they play, the crazier the parents get.

    Equal pay is nonsense. It's like saying the opening act at a concert should earn the same as the headliner.

    As I recall it was a number of the women's players who decided to kneel. US Soccer forced them to stand, so now Rappinoe refuses to sing the anthem as a "F*ck you to Trump" (her words). I'm sick of entertainers injecting politics into recreation. I don't want it in sports, movies, TC, etc. That's where I go to get away from the daily grind & negativity, not to hear some knucklehead athlete, or singer opine about politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Costa Rican Gopher View Post
    They're bigger, faster & stronger, but it's pretty ugly to watch. It's like rooting for the Kobra Kai dojo. I see so many female youth players emulating this style & it sucks. Sadly, it's often encouraged by the Dad's who never played the game. They wish they had boys & were at hockey or football, so they try to turn soccer into that. "Lay her out Brittney!!!" "Get aggressive Ashley, GET AGGRESSIVE!!!!". The higher level they play, the crazier the parents get.

    Equal pay is nonsense. It's like saying the opening act at a concert should earn the same as the headliner.

    As I recall it was a number of the women's players who decided to kneel. US Soccer forced them to stand, so now Rappinoe refuses to sing the anthem as a "F*ck you to Trump" (her words). I'm sick of entertainers injecting politics into recreation. I don't want it in sports, movies, TC, etc. That's where I go to get away from the daily grind & negativity, not to hear some knucklehead athlete, or singer opine about politics.
    It was just Rapinoe. None of the others kneeled or really ever talked about it. I wasn't even aware of the not singing thing until I saw the article that someone posted on here. There was no mention of it during the broadcast yesterday.

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    People really seem to have a hard understanding that soccer is a very physical game on the ball. You need to be strong on the ball and that requires toughness. All the diving and faking to draw fouls has created a bad perception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monk10 View Post
    People really seem to have a hard understanding that soccer is a very physical game on the ball. You need to be strong on the ball and that requires toughness. All the diving and faking to draw fouls has created a bad perception.
    Personally, I think the U.S. women are both highly physical and highly skilled. That's why they pile up goals against the opposition (regardless of who it may be) so consistently. A team can't simply be one or the other but to be really successful generally speaking. Japan might be the exception, but other top teams such as England, France, Germany, etc. have plenty of both.

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    The most impressive thing about the women's team is that they have persevered in a literal Handmaid's Tale society to somehow break free and become a dominant team. The other teams they play are from far more enlightened places where women have had equality much longer, and so women have been playing soccer much longer. so you really have to hand it to our ladies to overcome those disadvantages.

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    This is the problem with women's team sports. The best players are very good but there aren't enough of them. When the US plays good teams, it is worth watching but a 13-0 soccer game is not worth watching. They should either cut the number of teams or impose a mercy rule of 6 goals.

    Women's hockey is even worse. Canada and US win everything and games between these 2 are the only women's hockey worth watching (and they are worth watching) although Finland seems to be getting close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRJ View Post
    Personally, I think the U.S. women are both highly physical and highly skilled. That's why they pile up goals against the opposition (regardless of who it may be) so consistently. A team can't simply be one or the other but to be really successful generally speaking. Japan might be the exception, but other top teams such as England, France, Germany, etc. have plenty of both.

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    The thing that sets the US women apart from other top teams is their speed and size/physicality. England/France/Brazil/Japan have more skill, but not as much in the size/speed category. Our goals tend to come from long balls leading to breakaways, or from corner kicks/crosses that are finished with headers or scrambles in the box. Those other teams are more about the buildup, and score their goals via "pretty" soccer. Where they create 2v1 or 1v1 situations and then let their technical ability take over.

    That's not to say that the US players have no skill, but the size/speed element is what sets us apart. Heath is an exception, but she is on another level than the rest of her teammates in terms of technical skills. Morgan is a good example of the US womens style of soccer. She scores goals by being faster than everybody else and by taking lots of shots when she gets those opportunities. But she's not the type of player that is going to let the play build, or connect a bunch of passes in a row with her teammates in the final third. She's just a better athlete than everyone else and she's going to ram the ball forward until it works.

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    The US women do play very direct. There isn't much (if any) short, triangle passing or incremental movement forward. In transition or buildup, they get it to the flanks and burst into the attacking half or third of the field extremely quickly. Other teams like to utilize a gradual buildup with the occasional long diagonal. Just a difference in styles.

    What the US does exceptionally well is finish plays. They've always had elite finishers, starting with Akers to Hamm to Wambach to Morgan. And she's just the latest in that long line of big time goal scorers.

    Anyway, I find them plenty enjoyable to watch because they get out on the wings and run at the opposition, forcing them to commit defensively. Just a difference in styles from other national teams.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MRJ View Post
    The US women do play very direct. There isn't much (if any) short, triangle passing or incremental movement forward. In transition or buildup, they get it to the flanks and burst into the attacking half or third of the field extremely quickly. Other teams like to utilize a gradual buildup with the occasional long diagonal. Just a difference in styles.

    What the US does exceptionally well is finish plays. They've always had elite finishers, starting with Akers to Hamm to Wambach to Morgan. And she's just the latest in that long line of big time goal scorers.

    Anyway, I find them plenty enjoyable to watch because they get out on the wings and run at the opposition, forcing them to commit defensively. Just a difference in styles from other national teams.



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    It would be unwise to not use their superior athleticism on quick counter-attacks, so I can't blame them for style of play.
    Complaining about their style, I kind of get the point, but it's kinda like blaming the 2000 Baltimore Ravens football team for not passing more.

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    Agreed on Tobin Heath's skills. Her technical skills are wonderful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Face The Facts View Post
    It would be unwise to not use their superior athleticism on quick counter-attacks, so I can't blame them for style of play.
    Complaining about their style, I kind of get the point, but it's kinda like blaming the 2000 Baltimore Ravens football team for not passing more.

    Bizzle22,

    Agreed on Tobin Heath's skills. Her technical skills are wonderful.
    Agree on their style. It may not be the "pretty" soccer that some other top teams play, but the style of the US team is the right fit for their strengths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costa Rican Gopher View Post
    US Women's soccer is hard to watch to begin with. It's all size/power/speed & virtually no creativity or skill. They run it up on inferior opponents, take cheap shots when they're winning & act like it's some amazing achievement. Then they act like jerks when they lose as well.

    Add to the horrible style of soccer, their poor sportsmanship, the constant whining about not earning equal pay as the men (a preposterous argument) & now politicizing the game by refusing to stand for the anthem to get at Trump, and they're a hard pass for me.

    I've got high level female soccer players & I don't want them watching this team. I'm embarrassed that they represent our country.
    LOL yeah they have no skill. Doesn't take any skill to finish 13 goals. Zero skill to win world cups.

    Besides the above worst take in history you say they have poor sportsmanship? You have no idea what you are talking about. You are a complete moron for not letting your daughters watch these insanely successful women.
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