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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    I do think you’re wrong. No blind homerism, just my impression that this team will be middle of the league, battling with the other 6-10 teams (and it will be tight). While they will be inexperienced and need to gel as a team, there are enough pieces to mix and match to put some nice combos on the floor. This is what is so much fun about college hoops—the roster keeps changing. I’m excited to see what this new bunch can do. I’m thankful that we’ll have a true point guard this year, I’ll tell you that.
    I'm kind of with you. I think the loss of Murphy creates a big hole but the loss of Coffey less so (particularly if we can get another experienced guard or wing). If Coffey had been the lone returning star on a team with a lot of new faces, I fear that he may have dominated the ball and the shot attempts. I hope to see a team with a number of leaders in the upcoming season.

    I'll be pretty surprised if they finish as high as #6, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they finished 7 through 9.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bga1 View Post
    I would also bet that Purdue finishes ahead of us, because historically, that's what happens. However, I think there is a chance that things do not go so easily for them without the two gamers (Edwards, Cline). But, yes they still have plenty of talent. The thing that I thought set them apart last year was their ability to burn you with 3s. The three guys that are gone (including Eifert) shot 726 of their 854 3s and they made almost 39% of them. So they are going to have to really remake themselves (as will the Gophers).
    Edwards had some great offensive games, but he was also a black hole and became a liability at times when he was not hitting his shots. I think some of that was just their team's offensive strategy. I expect them to look different this year, but that might be to their benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SelectionSunday View Post
    Mine as of last Friday. Updated every Friday during the offseason.

    1 Michigan State
    2 Maryland
    3 Ohio State
    4 Purdue
    5 Illinois
    6 Wisconsin
    7 Iowa
    8 Michigan
    9 Minnesota
    10 Penn State
    11 Indiana
    12 Rutgers
    13 Nebraska
    14 Northwestern

    SS, what do you like about Iowa to be upper half? They lose their two best players from last year and three of their five best players and have a pedestrian recruiting class coming in relative to the rest of the Big Ten (including Minnesota, which is several rungs higher). Gophers also have two P6 transfers who had a year to learn the system. I'm not saying the Gophers will win the Big Ten, but I don't know how Iowa is ahead of MN (or Mich). I think there's a better chance that Iowa is in your Weakling Wednesday than 7th. They have Wieskamp and Garza (both really good) but not much else. Iowa really was able to take advantage of a weaker schedule last year, too (avoided having to play most of the top Big Ten teams twice). Haven't looked, maybe they have another cupcake Big Ten??
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    Default Updated 6/7/19

    Offseason weekly B1G Friday projection of Big Ten 🏀 standings

    1 Michigan State
    2 Maryland
    3 Ohio State
    4 Purdue
    5 Illinois
    6 Wisconsin
    7 Michigan
    8 Iowa
    9 Minnesota
    10 Indiana
    11 Penn State
    12 Rutgers
    13 Nebraska
    14 Northwestern

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjgopher View Post
    SS, what do you like about Iowa to be upper half? They lose their two best players from last year and three of their five best players and have a pedestrian recruiting class coming in relative to the rest of the Big Ten (including Minnesota, which is several rungs higher). Gophers also have two P6 transfers who had a year to learn the system. I'm not saying the Gophers will win the Big Ten, but I don't know how Iowa is ahead of MN (or Mich). I think there's a better chance that Iowa is in your Weakling Wednesday than 7th. They have Wieskamp and Garza (both really good) but not much else. Iowa really was able to take advantage of a weaker schedule last year, too (avoided having to play most of the top Big Ten teams twice). Haven't looked, maybe they have another cupcake Big Ten??
    Very fair question. Until I hear Bohannon is definitely out for the entire season, keeping Hawkeyes squarely in the middle. Iowa, Gophers, and Michigan are the 3 teams I’m finding most difficult to differentiate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SelectionSunday View Post
    Very fair question. Until I hear Bohannon is definitely out for the entire season, keeping Hawkeyes squarely in the middle. Iowa, Gophers, and Michigan are the 3 teams I’m finding most difficult to differentiate.
    Guessing Bohannon done since Iowa added a PG from Valpo today

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    After 6 years of Pitino, where is the program headed?

    The hard-core Pitino backers told us that 2 of the last 3 years were good and the trajectory was on the upswing. What happens if we finish between 9-12 in the B1G this year and miss the Dance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    After 6 years of Pitino, where is the program headed?

    The hard-core Pitino backers told us that 2 of the last 3 years were good and the trajectory was on the upswing. What happens if we finish between 9-12 in the B1G this year and miss the Dance?
    9th place might actually get you in the dance. 8/9 game in the BTT was a NCAA defacto play in game last year. To your point if we're playing on Wednesday next Pitino will probably get fired. Next year he needs to have year like last year, I think his team is capable of that, if they can do that and add someone like Daja or Garcia in 2020 to their current young core, they should have a contendter in 2021. But anymore years like two years ago or even like his second year happen before he contends, he will be gone. At some point it'll be like Mason who got a decade with football. Need to get to a sweet 16 or finish top three in the league or it's gonna feel like we're stulled on the side of the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    After 6 years of Pitino, where is the program headed?

    The hard-core Pitino backers told us that 2 of the last 3 years were good and the trajectory was on the upswing. What happens if we finish between 9-12 in the B1G this year and miss the Dance?
    If we miss the dance, that's a big problem. Cant go 2 for 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    After 6 years of Pitino, where is the program headed?

    The hard-core Pitino backers told us that 2 of the last 3 years were good and the trajectory was on the upswing. What happens if we finish between 9-12 in the B1G this year and miss the Dance?
    We're probably looking for a coach having waited a year to long to get Musselman, Hoiberg etc. Life as a Gopher fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedsmaroonandgold View Post
    If we miss the dance, that's a big problem. Cant go 2 for 7.
    If we get into the tournament that would be 3 of the last 4. Historic for Minnesota. That's how close disaster and relative success are to each other. A lot of it is in how one chooses to frame it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    We're probably looking for a coach having waited a year to long to get Musselman, Hoiberg etc. Life as a Gopher fan.
    If Pitino fails there will be plenty of better long term answers

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    Quote Originally Posted by bga1 View Post
    If we get into the tournament that would be 3 of the last 4. Historic for Minnesota. That's how close disaster and relative success are to each other. A lot of it is in how one chooses to frame it.
    True .
    But terrible conference records and getting into the tourney is nothing to be proud of. They just need 68 teams and now get teams in with sub .500 conference records in. Lets win the conference and grab a 2 seed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gopherlife View Post
    Edwards had some great offensive games, but he was also a black hole and became a liability at times when he was not hitting his shots. I think some of that was just their team's offensive strategy. I expect them to look different this year, but that might be to their benefit.
    IALTO! B10 title and a fluke play away from a Final Four. Wish we had that "liability" one of these decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesBolstad View Post
    IALTO! B10 title and a fluke play away from a Final Four. Wish we had that "liability" one of these decades.
    I mean we did beat them twice and blew a 13 point lead in the five minute span that he was good against us

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