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After just having driven through several college campuses, I started thinking about what our University of Minnesota could do to beautify and update the campus. My first thought was the walking bridge between the east and west bank needs a complete overhaul if not a total rebuild.

Can anyone tell me what the tradition of throwing your shoes in the trees off the bridge means?

Anyway, I discovered that Belmont University in Nashville is possibly the most gorgeous campus I have ever seen. Alabama was a close second and Vanderbilt came in third. All three very nice campuses! LSU, Southern Miss and especially Memphis were all campuses in desperate need of care.

So, what can Minnesota do to beautify the campus....I say, build a new walking bridge and utilize the banks of the Mississippi to give the U of M a wow factor.........What say you?
 

HoustonTXGopher said:
After just having driven through several college campuses, I started thinking about what our University of Minnesota could do to beautify and update the campus. My first thought was the walking bridge between the east and west bank needs a complete overhaul if not a total rebuild.

Can anyone tell me what the tradition of throwing your shoes in the trees off the bridge means?

Anyway, I discovered that Belmont University in Nashville is possibly the most gorgeous campus I have ever seen. Alabama was a close second and Vanderbilt came in third. All three very nice campuses! LSU, Southern Miss and especially Memphis were all campuses in desperate need of care.

So, what can Minnesota do to beautify the campus....I say, build a new walking bridge and utilize the banks of the Mississippi to give the U of M a wow factor.........What say you?
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Interesting that Alabama has a beautiful campus. Maybe some of that is an indirect result of all of the revenue from football.
 

HoustonTXGopher said:
After just having driven through several college campuses, I started thinking about what our University of Minnesota could do to beautify and update the campus. My first thought was the walking bridge between the east and west bank needs a complete overhaul if not a total rebuild.

Can anyone tell me what the tradition of throwing your shoes in the trees off the bridge means?

Anyway, I discovered that Belmont University in Nashville is possibly the most gorgeous campus I have ever seen. Alabama was a close second and Vanderbilt came in third. All three very nice campuses! LSU, Southern Miss and especially Memphis were all campuses in desperate need of care.

So, what can Minnesota do to beautify the campus....I say, build a new walking bridge and utilize the banks of the Mississippi to give the U of M a wow factor.........What say you?
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I am guessing a new walking bridge and utilizing the banks of the Mississippi to give the U of M a wow factor is going to have to wait.


University of Minnesota: Let’s do $200M in building repairs, not flashy new construction.

The University of Minnesota will hold off on higher-profile construction projects in hopes the state will pay for overdue maintenance of its aging campus buildings.

The university has identified $4.2 billion in deferred maintenance work needed over the next 10 years. More than one-quarter of its infrastructure is rated in poor or critical condition.

“This plan places a very strong emphasis on protecting and preserving what we have. There is very limited ‘new’ in this plan,” Berthelsen said.

Lawmakers have been loath to fund deferred maintenance — called “HEAPR” for Higher Education Asset Preservation and Renewal — anywhere close to the level U leaders say they need.

Brian Burnett, senior vice president for finance and operations, said the simplicity of the university’s next request — just three items totaling $235 million — should help them present their case to the Legislature. He said they’ll be ready to show lawmakers “in stark terms” what won’t get done if it’s not fully funded.

Regent Steve Sviggum said there clearly is a need for lots of HEAPR work, but it’s unrealistic to expect it will be fully funded. Considering what the U has received for capital projects over the past 15 years, he said, it would be better off asking for about $150 million.

“This is a very bold request,” Sviggum said. “If you look at the history, the chance of a $235 million request is pretty much zero.”

Other priorities in the six-year plan include improving health sciences facilities; expanding capacity for science, technology, engineering and math programs; and modernizing the libraries in Morris and the Twin Cities.

Many athletics improvements are on the list, too. They include a year-round golf practice facility, a new club room at Mariucci Arena for former Gopher athletes, and various improvements to women’s facilities to improve gender equity systemwide.

Read complete article at: https://www.twincities.com/2017/09/...new-construction-how-much-will-taxpayers-pay/
 
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How about cutting administrative pay and benefits in half? Something like 300 or 350 employees make more than $300k a year.
 

Gopherguy0723 said:
How about cutting administrative pay and benefits in half? Something like 300 or 350 employees make more than $300k a year.
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300 to 350 administrators making more than $300,000 seems unlikely. These were the Top 100 salaries at the U in 2015. Over 60% of them are professors.

Jackson,Jay Brooks $717,100.00 Vice President Sr Vice President Health Sci TWIN CITIES
Kaler,Eric William $626,450.00 President President, Office of the TWIN CITIES
Claeys,Tracy Lee $600,000.00 Assistant Coach Football TWIN CITIES
Kill,Jerry Robert $600,000.00 Head Coach Football TWIN CITIES
Limegrover,Matthew James $550,000.00 Assistant Coach Football TWIN CITIES
Blazar,Bruce R $534,797.00 Regents Professor PEDS Blood/Marrow Transplant TWIN CITIES
Pitino,Richard William $525,000.00 Head Coach Men's Basketball TWIN CITIES
Zaheer,Srilata $517,730.00 Dean CSOM Dean, Office of the TWIN CITIES
Yee,Douglas $464,735.00 Director Campus/College Level Cancer Center Management TWIN CITIES
Ahluwalia,Jasjit S $429,489.00 Professor MED General Internal Medicine TWIN CITIES
Hanson,Karen $424,927.00 Senior Vice President Acad Aff & Provost, Sr VP Ofc TWIN CITIES
Teague,Norwood Taylor $422,000.00 Departmental Director Athletic Administration TWIN CITIES
Tolar,Jakub $421,501.00 Professor PEDS Blood/Marrow Transplant TWIN CITIES
Dong,Zigang $417,656.00 Professor The Hormel Institute TWIN CITIES
Wippman,David $416,730.00 Dean Law School Deans Office TWIN CITIES
Ugurbil,Kamil $403,750.00 Professor Magnetic Resonance Res, Ctr Fr TWIN CITIES
Rothenberger,David A $400,000.00 Professor Surgery Administration TWIN CITIES
Hering MD,Bernhard J $387,780.00 Professor Surgery Administration TWIN CITIES
Saluja,Ashok K $375,275.00 Professor Surgery Administration TWIN CITIES
Kehoe,Patrick James $373,318.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Clohisy,Denis R $364,129.00 Professor ORSU Orthopaedic Admin TWIN CITIES
Bianco,Richard W $360,328.00 Associate Professor Surgery Administration TWIN CITIES
Finnegan Jr,John R $352,098.00 Dean SPH Dean's Office TWIN CITIES
Baird,Macaran Alexander $350,000.00 Professor FamMed Family Medicine Admin TWIN CITIES
Schmidlkofer,Kathleen Mary $350,000.00 Foundation Pres & Chief Ex Ofc University of Minnesota Fdn TWIN CITIES
Stollings,Linda Marlene $350,000.00 Head Coach Women's Basketball TWIN CITIES
Furcht,Leo Theodore $348,771.00 Professor LMP Administration TWIN CITIES
Assael,Leon Allen $348,500.00 Dean Dent Dean, Office of the TWIN CITIES
John,George $345,763.00 Associate Dean CSOM Faculty Support Admin TWIN CITIES
McGrattan,Ellen Rose $345,000.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Cicchetti,Dante $344,956.00 Professor Child Development Admin, Inst TWIN CITIES
Siegfried,Jill M. $343,750.00 Professor PHCL Pharmacology Admin TWIN CITIES
Chari,Varadarajan V $343,196.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Houston,Michael James $341,921.00 Associate Dean CSOM Global Institute TWIN CITIES
Loh,Horace H $335,732.00 Professor PHCL Pharmacology Admin TWIN CITIES
Hebbel,Robert Peter $333,659.00 Regents Professor MED Hema, Onc, Transplant Adm TWIN CITIES
Tonry,Michael H $331,641.00 Professor Law School General Academic TWIN CITIES
Lucia,Donald J $330,000.00 Head Coach Men's Hockey TWIN CITIES
Rustichini,Aldo $329,852.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Ashe,Karen H $329,238.00 Professor NEUR Neurology Dept Admin TWIN CITIES
Malkerson,Elizabeth An $325,000.00 Director Campus/College Level University of Minnesota Fdn TWIN CITIES
Phelan,Christopher James $324,259.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Rios-Rull,Jose Victor $323,935.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Schwartz,Eric Paul $321,524.00 Dean HHH Dean's Office TWIN CITIES
Wolf,Susan M $318,986.00 Professor Law School General Academic TWIN CITIES
Mason,Stuart Hugh $318,544.00 Associate Vice President Investments & Banking, Ofc of TWIN CITIES
Moscovice,Ira S $316,904.00 Professor SPH Health Policy & Mgmt Div TWIN CITIES
Herman,Brian $316,725.00 Vice President VP for Research, Office of TWIN CITIES
Bergen,Mark Edward $315,459.00 Associate Dean CSOM Executive Education TWIN CITIES
Rosenberg,Mark Elliott $315,187.00 Associate Dean MS Education Administration TWIN CITIES

Yueh,Bevan $314,858.00 Professor OTOL Otolaryngology Dept Admin TWIN CITIES
Crouch,Steven Lee $314,460.00 Dean CSENG Dean's Office Admin TWIN CITIES
Howland,Joan S $312,343.00 Professor Law School General Academic TWIN CITIES
Waldfogel,Joel $308,670.00 Professor Strategic Mgmt & Entrepreneur TWIN CITIES
Gupta,Alok $308,356.00 Professor CSOM Information &Decision Sci TWIN CITIES
Kane,Robert L $307,697.00 Professor SPH Health Policy & Mgmt Div TWIN CITIES
Kehoe,Timothy J $305,406.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Okediji,Ruth L $304,896.00 Professor Law School General Academic TWIN CITIES
van Kuijk,Fredericus $304,500.00 Professor OPH Ophthalmology Admin TWIN CITIES
Konety,Badrinath R $304,500.00 Professor Urology Administration TWIN CITIES
Parente,Stephen Thomas $302,665.00 Associate Dean CSOM MBA & GBCC Admin TWIN CITIES
Haase,Ashley T $301,814.00 Regents Professor MICRO Microbiology Admin TWIN CITIES
Wall,Michael Harold $300,000.00 Professor ANES Admin TWIN CITIES
Thomas,David D $297,282.00 Professor BMBB Med Struct Bio/Biophysics TWIN CITIES
Delaney,Connie J $291,190.00 Dean SoN Admin and Acad Support TWIN CITIES
Georg,Gunda $290,144.00 Professor Medicinal Chemistry TWIN CITIES
Kaveh,Mostafa $286,000.00 Associate Dean CSENG Dean's Office Admin TWIN CITIES
Vandeven,Andrew Henry $285,202.00 Professor Strategic Mgmt & Entrepreneur TWIN CITIES
Zaheer,S Akbar $284,681.00 Professor Strategic Mgmt & Entrepreneur TWIN CITIES
Christianson,Jon B $283,623.00 Professor SPH Health Policy & Mgmt Div TWIN CITIES
Gigler,Frank Barry $283,419.00 Professor CSOM Accounting Department TWIN CITIES
Shaver,James Myles $282,958.00 Professor Strategic Mgmt & Entrepreneur TWIN CITIES
Schneider,Edward L $282,180.00 Director (With Faculty Rank) Arboretum Operations TWIN CITIES
Zahra,Shaker A $280,098.00 Professor Strategic Mgmt & Entrepreneur TWIN CITIES
Wagner Jr,John E $278,303.00 Professor PEDS Blood/Marrow Transplant TWIN CITIES
Bapna,Ravi $277,413.00 Professor CSOM Information &Decision Sci TWIN CITIES
Jeffery,Robert W $277,397.00 Professor SPH EpiCH Division TWIN CITIES
Neglia,Joseph $277,184.00 Professor PEDS Hematology TWIN CITIES
Holmes,Thomas Joseph $275,669.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Winton,Andrew $275,105.00 Professor CSOM Finance & Insurance TWIN CITIES
Goldstein,Robert S $275,067.00 Professor CSOM Finance & Insurance TWIN CITIES
Largaespada,David A $275,000.00 Professor Genetics Mechanisms of CancrCC TWIN CITIES
Le,Chap Than $274,394.00 Professor SPH Biostatistics Division TWIN CITIES
Singh,Rajdeep $273,836.00 Professor CSOM Finance & Insurance TWIN CITIES
Luepker,Russell V $273,025.00 Professor SPH EpiCH Division TWIN CITIES
Black,Lendley Coats $272,940.00 Chancellor D Chancellor's Office DULUTH
Donohue,William P $271,625.00 General Counsel General Counsel (OGC General) TWIN CITIES
Pfutzenreuter III,Richard H $270,820.00 Vice President University Budget & Finance TWIN CITIES
Ebner,Timothy J $269,875.00 Professor NSCI Neuroscience Admin TWIN CITIES
Bohjanen,Paul R $269,600.00 Professor MED Inf Disease & Internationl TWIN CITIES
Carlin,Bradley P $269,554.00 Professor SPH Biostatistics Division TWIN CITIES
Rao,Akshay R $267,276.00 Professor CSOM Marketing TWIN CITIES
Orr,Harry Taylor $266,500.00 Professor LMP Administration TWIN CITIES
Powell,Deborah Elizabeth $266,103.00 Professor LMP Administration TWIN CITIES
Thierer,Todd E $265,660.00 Associate Dean Dent Dean, Office of the TWIN CITIES
John,Deborah R $265,398.00 Professor CSOM Marketing TWIN CITIES
Sandelin,Scott A $265,000.00 Head Coach D Ath Men's Hockey DULUTH
Okuyemi,Kolawole Stephen $265,000.00 Professor FamMed Family Medicine Admin TWIN CITIES
Neaton,James Dennis $264,439.00 Professor SPH Biostatistics Division TWIN CITIES
Ames,Trevor R $264,143.00 Dean CVM Veterinary Med Dean's Ofc TWIN CITIES

https://www.bizjournals.com/twincit...ty-minnesota-salaries-employees-top-paid.html
 
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Cruze said:
300 to 350 administrators making more than $300,000 seems unlikely. These were the Top 100 salaries at the U in 2015. Over 60% of them are professors.

Jackson,Jay Brooks $717,100.00 Vice President Sr Vice President Health Sci TWIN CITIES
Kaler,Eric William $626,450.00 President President, Office of the TWIN CITIES
Claeys,Tracy Lee $600,000.00 Assistant Coach Football TWIN CITIES
Kill,Jerry Robert $600,000.00 Head Coach Football TWIN CITIES
Limegrover,Matthew James $550,000.00 Assistant Coach Football TWIN CITIES
Blazar,Bruce R $534,797.00 Regents Professor PEDS Blood/Marrow Transplant TWIN CITIES
Pitino,Richard William $525,000.00 Head Coach Men's Basketball TWIN CITIES
Zaheer,Srilata $517,730.00 Dean CSOM Dean, Office of the TWIN CITIES
Yee,Douglas $464,735.00 Director Campus/College Level Cancer Center Management TWIN CITIES
Ahluwalia,Jasjit S $429,489.00 Professor MED General Internal Medicine TWIN CITIES
Hanson,Karen $424,927.00 Senior Vice President Acad Aff & Provost, Sr VP Ofc TWIN CITIES
Teague,Norwood Taylor $422,000.00 Departmental Director Athletic Administration TWIN CITIES
Tolar,Jakub $421,501.00 Professor PEDS Blood/Marrow Transplant TWIN CITIES
Dong,Zigang $417,656.00 Professor The Hormel Institute TWIN CITIES
Wippman,David $416,730.00 Dean Law School Deans Office TWIN CITIES
Ugurbil,Kamil $403,750.00 Professor Magnetic Resonance Res, Ctr Fr TWIN CITIES
Rothenberger,David A $400,000.00 Professor Surgery Administration TWIN CITIES
Hering MD,Bernhard J $387,780.00 Professor Surgery Administration TWIN CITIES
Saluja,Ashok K $375,275.00 Professor Surgery Administration TWIN CITIES
Kehoe,Patrick James $373,318.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Clohisy,Denis R $364,129.00 Professor ORSU Orthopaedic Admin TWIN CITIES
Bianco,Richard W $360,328.00 Associate Professor Surgery Administration TWIN CITIES
Finnegan Jr,John R $352,098.00 Dean SPH Dean's Office TWIN CITIES
Baird,Macaran Alexander $350,000.00 Professor FamMed Family Medicine Admin TWIN CITIES
Schmidlkofer,Kathleen Mary $350,000.00 Foundation Pres & Chief Ex Ofc University of Minnesota Fdn TWIN CITIES
Stollings,Linda Marlene $350,000.00 Head Coach Women's Basketball TWIN CITIES
Furcht,Leo Theodore $348,771.00 Professor LMP Administration TWIN CITIES
Assael,Leon Allen $348,500.00 Dean Dent Dean, Office of the TWIN CITIES
John,George $345,763.00 Associate Dean CSOM Faculty Support Admin TWIN CITIES
McGrattan,Ellen Rose $345,000.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Cicchetti,Dante $344,956.00 Professor Child Development Admin, Inst TWIN CITIES
Siegfried,Jill M. $343,750.00 Professor PHCL Pharmacology Admin TWIN CITIES
Chari,Varadarajan V $343,196.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Houston,Michael James $341,921.00 Associate Dean CSOM Global Institute TWIN CITIES
Loh,Horace H $335,732.00 Professor PHCL Pharmacology Admin TWIN CITIES
Hebbel,Robert Peter $333,659.00 Regents Professor MED Hema, Onc, Transplant Adm TWIN CITIES
Tonry,Michael H $331,641.00 Professor Law School General Academic TWIN CITIES
Lucia,Donald J $330,000.00 Head Coach Men's Hockey TWIN CITIES
Rustichini,Aldo $329,852.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Ashe,Karen H $329,238.00 Professor NEUR Neurology Dept Admin TWIN CITIES
Malkerson,Elizabeth An $325,000.00 Director Campus/College Level University of Minnesota Fdn TWIN CITIES
Phelan,Christopher James $324,259.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Rios-Rull,Jose Victor $323,935.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Schwartz,Eric Paul $321,524.00 Dean HHH Dean's Office TWIN CITIES
Wolf,Susan M $318,986.00 Professor Law School General Academic TWIN CITIES
Mason,Stuart Hugh $318,544.00 Associate Vice President Investments & Banking, Ofc of TWIN CITIES
Moscovice,Ira S $316,904.00 Professor SPH Health Policy & Mgmt Div TWIN CITIES
Herman,Brian $316,725.00 Vice President VP for Research, Office of TWIN CITIES
Bergen,Mark Edward $315,459.00 Associate Dean CSOM Executive Education TWIN CITIES
Rosenberg,Mark Elliott $315,187.00 Associate Dean MS Education Administration TWIN CITIES

Yueh,Bevan $314,858.00 Professor OTOL Otolaryngology Dept Admin TWIN CITIES
Crouch,Steven Lee $314,460.00 Dean CSENG Dean's Office Admin TWIN CITIES
Howland,Joan S $312,343.00 Professor Law School General Academic TWIN CITIES
Waldfogel,Joel $308,670.00 Professor Strategic Mgmt & Entrepreneur TWIN CITIES
Gupta,Alok $308,356.00 Professor CSOM Information &Decision Sci TWIN CITIES
Kane,Robert L $307,697.00 Professor SPH Health Policy & Mgmt Div TWIN CITIES
Kehoe,Timothy J $305,406.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Okediji,Ruth L $304,896.00 Professor Law School General Academic TWIN CITIES
van Kuijk,Fredericus $304,500.00 Professor OPH Ophthalmology Admin TWIN CITIES
Konety,Badrinath R $304,500.00 Professor Urology Administration TWIN CITIES
Parente,Stephen Thomas $302,665.00 Associate Dean CSOM MBA & GBCC Admin TWIN CITIES
Haase,Ashley T $301,814.00 Regents Professor MICRO Microbiology Admin TWIN CITIES
Wall,Michael Harold $300,000.00 Professor ANES Admin TWIN CITIES
Thomas,David D $297,282.00 Professor BMBB Med Struct Bio/Biophysics TWIN CITIES
Delaney,Connie J $291,190.00 Dean SoN Admin and Acad Support TWIN CITIES
Georg,Gunda $290,144.00 Professor Medicinal Chemistry TWIN CITIES
Kaveh,Mostafa $286,000.00 Associate Dean CSENG Dean's Office Admin TWIN CITIES
Vandeven,Andrew Henry $285,202.00 Professor Strategic Mgmt & Entrepreneur TWIN CITIES
Zaheer,S Akbar $284,681.00 Professor Strategic Mgmt & Entrepreneur TWIN CITIES
Christianson,Jon B $283,623.00 Professor SPH Health Policy & Mgmt Div TWIN CITIES
Gigler,Frank Barry $283,419.00 Professor CSOM Accounting Department TWIN CITIES
Shaver,James Myles $282,958.00 Professor Strategic Mgmt & Entrepreneur TWIN CITIES
Schneider,Edward L $282,180.00 Director (With Faculty Rank) Arboretum Operations TWIN CITIES
Zahra,Shaker A $280,098.00 Professor Strategic Mgmt & Entrepreneur TWIN CITIES
Wagner Jr,John E $278,303.00 Professor PEDS Blood/Marrow Transplant TWIN CITIES
Bapna,Ravi $277,413.00 Professor CSOM Information &Decision Sci TWIN CITIES
Jeffery,Robert W $277,397.00 Professor SPH EpiCH Division TWIN CITIES
Neglia,Joseph $277,184.00 Professor PEDS Hematology TWIN CITIES
Holmes,Thomas Joseph $275,669.00 Professor Economics TWIN CITIES
Winton,Andrew $275,105.00 Professor CSOM Finance & Insurance TWIN CITIES
Goldstein,Robert S $275,067.00 Professor CSOM Finance & Insurance TWIN CITIES
Largaespada,David A $275,000.00 Professor Genetics Mechanisms of CancrCC TWIN CITIES
Le,Chap Than $274,394.00 Professor SPH Biostatistics Division TWIN CITIES
Singh,Rajdeep $273,836.00 Professor CSOM Finance & Insurance TWIN CITIES
Luepker,Russell V $273,025.00 Professor SPH EpiCH Division TWIN CITIES
Black,Lendley Coats $272,940.00 Chancellor D Chancellor's Office DULUTH
Donohue,William P $271,625.00 General Counsel General Counsel (OGC General) TWIN CITIES
Pfutzenreuter III,Richard H $270,820.00 Vice President University Budget & Finance TWIN CITIES
Ebner,Timothy J $269,875.00 Professor NSCI Neuroscience Admin TWIN CITIES
Bohjanen,Paul R $269,600.00 Professor MED Inf Disease & Internationl TWIN CITIES
Carlin,Bradley P $269,554.00 Professor SPH Biostatistics Division TWIN CITIES
Rao,Akshay R $267,276.00 Professor CSOM Marketing TWIN CITIES
Orr,Harry Taylor $266,500.00 Professor LMP Administration TWIN CITIES
Powell,Deborah Elizabeth $266,103.00 Professor LMP Administration TWIN CITIES
Thierer,Todd E $265,660.00 Associate Dean Dent Dean, Office of the TWIN CITIES
John,Deborah R $265,398.00 Professor CSOM Marketing TWIN CITIES
Sandelin,Scott A $265,000.00 Head Coach D Ath Men's Hockey DULUTH
Okuyemi,Kolawole Stephen $265,000.00 Professor FamMed Family Medicine Admin TWIN CITIES
Neaton,James Dennis $264,439.00 Professor SPH Biostatistics Division TWIN CITIES
Ames,Trevor R $264,143.00 Dean CVM Veterinary Med Dean's Ofc TWIN CITIES

https://www.bizjournals.com/twincit...ty-minnesota-salaries-employees-top-paid.html
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It's fairly misleading. Many of the faculty members are from the medical school and they see patients, which means revenue. If they were in private practice or working for Allina, Health Partners, etc., they would make more money. Many of the other faculty members on the list have a compensation formula that is based substantially on grant money. Not much of their salaries comes directly from the U. The coaches are self explanatory.

Finally, if you want top talent, you need to either pay them or put them in a position to get grants. I don't have a problem with that list.
 

Gopherguy0723 said:
How about cutting administrative pay and benefits in half? Something like 300 or 350 employees make more than $300k a year.
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Yes. I would love to know what the U's long term obligations are. I'm guessing that's where most of the money is disappearing. That and bogus diversity administrators.
 

jamiche said:
It's fairly misleading. Many of the faculty members are from the medical school and they see patients, which means revenue. If they were in private practice or working for Allina, Health Partners, etc., they would make more money. Many of the other faculty members on the list have a compensation formula that is based substantially on grant money. Not much of their salaries comes directly from the U. The coaches are self explanatory.

Finally, if you want top talent, you need to either pay them or put them in a position to get grants. I don't have a problem with that list.
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We agree. Gopherguy's comment about administrative salaries at the U shouldn't apply to any professor. They are not administrators. By my count there are only 28 administrators included in the list of the Top 100 salaries at the U. And only 20 of them made over $300,000 per year rather than the 300 - 350 that Gopherguy estimated.
 
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HoustonTXGopher said:
After just having driven through several college campuses, I started thinking about what our University of Minnesota could do to beautify and update the campus. My first thought was the walking bridge between the east and west bank needs a complete overhaul if not a total rebuild.

Can anyone tell me what the tradition of throwing your shoes in the trees off the bridge means?

Anyway, I discovered that Belmont University in Nashville is possibly the most gorgeous campus I have ever seen. Alabama was a close second and Vanderbilt came in third. All three very nice campuses! LSU, Southern Miss and especially Memphis were all campuses in desperate need of care.

So, what can Minnesota do to beautify the campus....I say, build a new walking bridge and utilize the banks of the Mississippi to give the U of M a wow factor.........What say you?
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I was also just in Nashville, and stayed at a hotel next to Vanderbilt. I agree lovely urban campus. Indiana and Michigan are far and away the nicest campuses I have ever visited. Simply gorgeous. Minnesota, Cal, and Vandy are very nice urban campuses.

I think unique architecture and green spaces with trees make for a nice campus setting. The U East Bank and St. Paul do this well, West Bank...not so much... I think the back side of Coffman and the Weisman give The U a potential wow factor. Ted Mann Concert Hall has a nice view of the river.
 

Gopherguy0723 said:
http://m.startribune.com/university...but-critics-charge-it-s-not-enough/509910702/

I was way off from what I remembered, but there are still way too many.

The number of $300,000 employees jumped from 33 to 50 in five years. A 50% increase at a time when the U is supposed to be containing costs. The top end pay is a big problem.
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How do corporate admin salaries compare? If you want to play with the big boys and have competent administration, you have to pay for it.
 

Cruze said:
We agree. Gopherguy's comment about administrative salaries at the U shouldn't apply to any professor. They are not administrators. By my count there are only 28 administrators included in the list of the Top 100 salaries at the U. And only 20 of them made over $300,000 per year rather than the 300 - 350 that Gopherguy estimated.
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Only 28 administrators? Well, that's perfectly understandable.
 

Nokomis said:
I was also just in Nashville, and stayed at a hotel next to Vanderbilt. I agree lovely urban campus. Indiana and Michigan are far and away the nicest campuses I have ever visited. Simply gorgeous. Minnesota, Cal, and Vandy are very nice urban campuses.

I think unique architecture and green spaces with trees make for a nice campus setting. The U East Bank and St. Paul do this well, West Bank...not so much... I think the back side of Coffman and the Weisman give The U a potential wow factor. Ted Mann Concert Hall has a nice view of the river.
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I think the U East Bank has never looked better. The projects they have done during the last two decades have completely transformed the campus. I love walking around it.
 



GopherJake said:
How do corporate admin salaries compare? If you want to play with the big boys and have competent administration, you have to pay for it.
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What corporation was going to hire Kaler to run a business unit or an entire company before he was president of the U? You have a point though. Upper management in corporations are also too high. The money flows too high to the top. It's causing all sorts of issues that tie together.

To dumb it down for the sakenof brevity: top university pay needs to be drastically cut. Corporate pay does too. Or, keep the high pay for both, increase pay for workers dramatically, and raise taxes to pay for the university.
 

Nokomis said:
I was also just in Nashville, and stayed at a hotel next to Vanderbilt. I agree lovely urban campus. Indiana and Michigan are far and away the nicest campuses I have ever visited. Simply gorgeous. Minnesota, Cal, and Vandy are very nice urban campuses.

I think unique architecture and green spaces with trees make for a nice campus setting. The U East Bank and St. Paul do this well, West Bank...not so much... I think the back side of Coffman and the Weisman give The U a potential wow factor. Ted Mann Concert Hall has a nice view of the river.
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I'm assuming you didn't get to Belmont University while you were in Nashville? Belmont is very close to Vanderbilt and is a small campus, but I was blown away by the buildings, green space and the amount of flowers/trees that beatified the campus. Simply amazing!
 

Gopherguy0723 said:
http://m.startribune.com/university...but-critics-charge-it-s-not-enough/509910702/

I was way off from what I remembered, but there are still way too many.

The number of $300,000 employees jumped from 33 to 50 in five years. A 50% increase at a time when the U is supposed to be containing costs. The top end pay is a big problem.
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No matter how Broke/Cruze wants to spin it, even for a teacher's union guy, that list is absolutely frightening. Particularly considering the list is 4 years old. Wowzers.
 

I've always felt it was part of our upper-Midwestern stinginess and self loathing that we don't treat ourselves to beautification the way other parts of the country do. Mark Yudof came here from elsewhere and brought a different attitude during the time he was here. Under him, the U took a huge leap forward in beautification and maintenance, but it's been mostly stagnant since his departure. It's definitely time for another few steps forward at least.

I continue to hold dear to the pipe dream that Yudof had envisioned as an ultimate goal: the realization of Cass Gilbert's grand vision, which included connecting the mall to the river. One of the first things Yudof did when he arrived was hang a huge print of Gilbert's visualization on the wall of his office so that he'd never lose sight of how the campus was originally supposed to look. The construction of Coffman Union flew in the face of that vision and largely usurped it, but I still think a continuous mall through and past Coffman could be developed in some way.

My pipe dream has always included a land bridge over Washington Avenue. There was a chance at that when they built the light rail and transit way, but it was too much to accomplish within the time and budget constraints of the LRT project. But it could still be done.
 

Section2 said:
Only 28 administrators? Well, that's perfectly understandable.
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GopherJake said:
How do corporate admin salaries compare? If you want to play with the big boys and have competent administration, you have to pay for it.
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It's the number of staff that is the problem, much, much more than the salary. That's where public and private sector vary greatly. Private sector for the most part gets by with the staff they need. The public sector bargains for POSITIONS just as much or more than they bargain for salary and benefit increases. And positions almost never DECREASE. When a position goes vacant, there is a strong push in the public sector to fill that vacancy as soon as possible; not because of the NEED so much as it is for a fear of that position being taken away and allocated somewhere else, essentially stolen by a different department or division.

From someone who has worked in and around state government for over 25 years, I've advocated for years that it's not the pay that is the issue. I say, pay public employees more, and cut the number of bodies drastically.
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
It's the number of staff that is the problem, much, much more than the salary. That's where public and private sector vary greatly. Private sector for the most part gets by with the staff they need. The public sector bargains for POSITIONS just as much or more than they bargain for salary and benefit increases. And positions almost never DECREASE. When a position goes vacant, there is a strong push in the public sector to fill that vacancy as soon as possible; not because of the NEED so much as it is for a fear of that position being taken away and allocated somewhere else, essentially stolen by a different department or division.

From someone who has worked in and around state government for over 25 years, I've advocated for years that it's not the pay that is the issue. I say, pay public employees more, and cut the number of bodies drastically.
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I feel like we have had a discussion before, but never really get anywhere. The budget is $3.8 billion. That's an astronomical figure.

In 2019, how much should it cost to educate an undergraduate student? a graduate student? On average $75k? Or should the number be closer to $10k? $5k?
 

HoustonTXGopher said:
After just having driven through several college campuses, I started thinking about what our University of Minnesota could do to beautify and update the campus. My first thought was the walking bridge between the east and west bank needs a complete overhaul if not a total rebuild.

Can anyone tell me what the tradition of throwing your shoes in the trees off the bridge means?

Anyway, I discovered that Belmont University in Nashville is possibly the most gorgeous campus I have ever seen. Alabama was a close second and Vanderbilt came in third. All three very nice campuses! LSU, Southern Miss and especially Memphis were all campuses in desperate need of care.

So, what can Minnesota do to beautify the campus....I say, build a new walking bridge and utilize the banks of the Mississippi to give the U of M a wow factor.........What say you?
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How do you beautify a communist outpost? [emoji41]
 

Gopherguy0723 said:
http://m.startribune.com/university...but-critics-charge-it-s-not-enough/509910702/

I was way off from what I remembered, but there are still way too many.

The number of $300,000 employees jumped from 33 to 50 in five years. A 50% increase at a time when the U is supposed to be containing costs. The top end pay is a big problem.
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It's not a big problem. The people who run big departments or big programs aren't going to take those jobs for $75K/year. No system is perfect and there are some people who earn more than they should. However, condemning a university because there are twenty or so people in upper management who make over $300K/year is short sighted.

The issue I have with executive compensation is top management of public corporations who are making in the millions, with big year over year increases in compensation and huge multiples over entry level workers and who are not delivering shareholder value. Senior management compensation has to be tied to production and performance in publicly traded companies.
 

Bad Gopher said:
I continue to hold dear to the pipe dream that Yudof had envisioned as an ultimate goal: the realization of Cass Gilbert's grand vision, which included connecting the mall to the river.
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If you've never seen Cass Gilbert's designs, they are stunners. What might have been...

https://picryl.com/media/university-of-minnesota-drawings-of-proposed-scheme-view-from-the-south-cass?zoom=true
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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8b/ff/5f/8bff5fa7bd3db55565ebe794a510b0df.jpg
 

jamiche said:
It's not a big problem. The people who run big departments or big programs aren't going to take those jobs for $75K/year. No system is perfect and there are some people who earn more than they should. However, condemning a university because there are twenty or so people in upper management who make over $300K/year is short sighted.

The issue I have with executive compensation is top management of public corporations who are making in the millions, with big year over year increases in compensation and huge multiples over entry level workers and who are not delivering shareholder value. Senior management compensation has to be tied to production and performance in publicly traded companies.
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The difference is that the U has its hand out.
Your opinion on whether or not a corporation is delivering shareholder value can be exercised in your (proxy) vote, or in selling your shares.
 

HoustonTXGopher said:
I'm assuming you didn't get to Belmont University while you were in Nashville? Belmont is very close to Vanderbilt and is a small campus, but I was blown away by the buildings, green space and the amount of flowers/trees that beatified the campus. Simply amazing!
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No, didn't get to Belmont, maybe next time. Do you spend a lot of time in Nashville? It's one of my favorite cities, though this was my first time back in 10+ years. Used to love going down 2nd Ave & Broadway and finding all genres of music - country, rock, blues, soul, folk, Irish. Now every venue has four levels of rockin' country. One Charlie Daniels cover band is enough. Though we did find some cool places outside of downtown, like Vinyl Tap. And Beer Sellar is still my favorite bar.
 


Section2 said:
The difference is that the U has its hand out.
Your opinion on whether or not a corporation is delivering shareholder value can be exercised in your (proxy) vote, or in selling your shares.
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I had no idea.

You can always move to a state with a crappy education system, deuce.


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jamiche said:
I had no idea.

You can always move to a state with a crappy education system, deuce.


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Which state is that? The problem with higher education is the federal government, not the states. And I'm not aware of any state with a crappy university system. Frankly, MN isn't all that great.
 

Section2 said:
Which state is that? The problem with higher education is the federal government, not the states. And I'm not aware of any state with a crappy university system. Frankly, MN isn't all that great.
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Yeah, Minnesota sucks at education. Great point.
 

Section2 said:
Which state is that? The problem with higher education is the federal government, not the states. And I'm not aware of any state with a crappy university system. Frankly, MN isn't all that great.
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I'd suggest you move to Anson County, NC., deuce.
 


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