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    Quote Originally Posted by RatherBeGolfing View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by GopherPlaya View Post
    I would be disappointed. Joey King was not a big ten player. We were just a bad team that year. Demir looks a lot more versatile in those highlights than Joey King
    Joey was the second leading scorer for us a few years ago, averaged 11.6 PPG and had back to back years with at least 55 made 3's at a 40% clip. He absolutely was a Big Ten player and the team would have been pretty good if he was the 5th or 6th scorer on the team instead of the second leading scorer. Even with his weak rebounding and defense, I'd be very happy if Joey was our starting PF next year or rather, if Demir turned out to be the same player Joey was. As I have said before, they are both similar level rebounders and defenders, Joey is a much better shooter, but Demir is a better low post scorer, better passer and more willing to put the ball on the floor and drive it.

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    Demir has some footwork. Love it. Will be a good guy for our younger bigs to learn from and practice against. I'm confident in him being able to contribute. I don't expect him to light the world on fire but if he can be here this summer, that would be a big help.

    Nice get. Now find an immediately eligible transfer guard or high school senior guard who can come in and add depth there. I feel like if Coffey is back, the front court is ready to go.

    Side note: I wonder if there will be anyone redshirted this year. Oturu, Demir, Freeman, Hurt, Omersa and Curry makes for a crowded front court, especially if Coffey is back and eats a ton of minutes at the 3. Gabe will play a lot at the 2. Carr at the 1. Willis relieves them, Plus Ihnen...Do we have too many good players????

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    Quote Originally Posted by die hard gopher View Post
    Joey was the second leading scorer for us a few years ago, averaged 11.6 PPG and had back to back years with at least 55 made 3's at a 40% clip. He absolutely was a Big Ten player and the team would have been pretty good if he was the 5th or 6th scorer on the team instead of the second leading scorer. Even with his weak rebounding and defense, I'd be very happy if Joey was our starting PF next year or rather, if Demir turned out to be the same player Joey was. As I have said before, they are both similar level rebounders and defenders, Joey is a much better shooter, but Demir is a better low post scorer, better passer and more willing to put the ball on the floor and drive it.
    It seems the general consensus is the hope that Demir's "floor" at least matches what Joey brought to the team but with a much higher "ceiling". Personally, I always thought Joey was a heck of a player for us...I'd have a roster spot open for a kid like that every year if I was the coach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpAndUnder43 View Post
    Demir has some footwork. Love it. Will be a good guy for our younger bigs to learn from and practice against. I'm confident in him being able to contribute. I don't expect him to light the world on fire but if he can be here this summer, that would be a big help.

    Nice get. Now find an immediately eligible transfer guard or high school senior guard who can come in and add depth there. I feel like if Coffey is back, the front court is ready to go.

    Side note: I wonder if there will be anyone redshirted this year. Oturu, Demir, Freeman, Hurt, Omersa and Curry makes for a crowded front court, especially if Coffey is back and eats a ton of minutes at the 3. Gabe will play a lot at the 2. Carr at the 1. Willis relieves them, Plus Ihnen...Do we have too many good players????
    My best guess at a possible redshirt would be Freeman since most "bigs" take a little longer to develop their game and bodies. If Coffey does return, we would indeed have crazy depth:

    C - Oturu/Freeman
    PF - Demir/Curry/Omersa
    SF - Coffey/Ihnen/Hurt
    SG - Kalscheur/Williams
    PG - Carr/Willis

    If Coffey doesn't come back, we might need a Wing more than a PG although Gabe and Tre could probably play SF at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Tubby View Post
    It seems the general consensus is the hope that Demir's "floor" at least matches what Joey brought to the team but with a much higher "ceiling". Personally, I always thought Joey was a heck of a player for us...I'd have a roster spot open for a kid like that every year if I was the coach.
    I'd say the opposite. Demir's ceiling is Joey as a senior. Demir's floor is probably worse than that. But I'd be very happy if he reached that ceiling so not a knock on Demir at all. Maybe Demir's floor is what Joey was a a sophomore or junior but Joey was pretty solid as a senior, even if he was a weak rebounder and defender.

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    2015-16 team was a mess with the guard suspensions.
    Joey's rebounding and defense wouldn't have stood out had Oturu been the center and Coffey the SF.
    We had Konate at center and Morris at 6-5 180 at SF. It was not a good rebounding team.

    Demir shot 36% from 3 as a fr, dropped to 27% last year. Lets hope the shot returns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by die hard gopher View Post
    Joey was the second leading scorer for us a few years ago, averaged 11.6 PPG and had back to back years with at least 55 made 3's at a 40% clip. He absolutely was a Big Ten player and the team would have been pretty good if he was the 5th or 6th scorer on the team instead of the second leading scorer. Even with his weak rebounding and defense, I'd be very happy if Joey was our starting PF next year or rather, if Demir turned out to be the same player Joey was. As I have said before, they are both similar level rebounders and defenders, Joey is a much better shooter, but Demir is a better low post scorer, better passer and more willing to put the ball on the floor and drive it.
    I guess it is a preference thing because Joey was unable to guard 3s or 4s and he was a solid shooter but didn't really bring much else to the table in my opinion and was a liability. We were just so bad his senior that he had to give us minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by GopherPlaya View Post
    I would be disappointed. Joey King was not a big ten player.
    So dumb.

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    Demir is a nice grab. However, if Coffey is back, then Demir is probably the 4th or 5th best starter, assuming he starts. He was only worth 2.1 win shares, which is a good bench player but not great for a starter.

    I'm also worried about Carr. We cannot count on him to be a great contributor. Another good PG would be nice if one is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by die hard gopher View Post
    I'd say the opposite. Demir's ceiling is Joey as a senior. Demir's floor is probably worse than that. But I'd be very happy if he reached that ceiling so not a knock on Demir at all. Maybe Demir's floor is what Joey was a a sophomore or junior but Joey was pretty solid as a senior, even if he was a weak rebounder and defender.
    Not sure I'd agree with this. I would bet that King wasn't going to score more than 15 and grab more than 7 boards his 3 year of play at Drake and I'm guessing its similar competition? Not saying that is the only indicator but he essentially played as well as King did at a mid major.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthSeeker View Post
    Demir is a nice grab. However, if Coffey is back, then Demir is probably the 4th or 5th best starter, assuming he starts. He was only worth 2.1 win shares, which is a good bench player but not great for a starter.

    I'm also worried about Carr. We cannot count on him to be a great contributor. Another good PG would be nice if one is available.
    10 ppg at Pitt as a frosh....Not bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnGopher View Post
    Not sure I'd agree with this. I would bet that King wasn't going to score more than 15 and grab more than 7 boards his 3 year of play at Drake and I'm guessing its similar competition? Not saying that is the only indicator but he essentially played as well as King did at a mid major.
    If Joey played all 4 years at Drake then I would expect him in his 4th year to have the same numbers Demir put up if not better. If you can put up 11.6 PPG and 3.8 RPG as a 3 in the Big Ten then as a 4 in the MVC or CAA, I'd expect 15-16 PPG and 6-7 boards.

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    I think Carr will be very solid at PG and I do wish we had a true ball handler behind him but I think we can get away with playing someone else (Willis, Tre, Amir, whoever) at point for 8-12 min a game. I just commented how I would like Kobe Brown on another thread but I also wouldn't mind a grad transfer that could play guard and handle the ball a little. Have to wonder how landing brown would affect Walton and Garcia next year, although I don't think you shouldn't recruit Brown with that in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthSeeker View Post
    Demir is a nice grab. However, if Coffey is back, then Demir is probably the 4th or 5th best starter, assuming he starts. He was only worth 2.1 win shares, which is a good bench player but not great for a starter.

    I'm also worried about Carr. We cannot count on him to be a great contributor. Another good PG would be nice if one is available.
    Count me in on the "Im not worried about Carr" camp

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