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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigeddysprings View Post
    There is no way on this earth that the Badgers are ending up 9th. Just the removal of 2 guys on the floor(Happ & Iverson that couldn't make a shot outside of 5ft is going to allow us to run an offense that will keep us contending. 5 guys on the floor that can step out to the 3pt line is something we have not had since the 2016 final four.
    Iowa is Iowa. They will average 85 ppg and give up 84 ppg. Purdue and Michigan are taking a dive to the middle this year. Its wide open for The Badgers and the Gophs.
    So losing Happ is a good thing, eh? Perhaps we'll be so much freer without Jordan Murphy's limited shooting range dragging us down.


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    There will be things gained by both Happ and Murphy being gone. Will it be enough is the question. No one knows for certain. I think both teams stood around a lot watching those two and failed to move defenses to sides . And in the case of Happ, whom i respect a ton for all his work (same for Murph) UW was handcuffed by late game situations by his free throw shooting. He was also turnover prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    So losing Happ is a good thing, eh? Perhaps we'll be so much freer without Jordan Murphy's limited shooting range dragging us down.
    I love Happ. He required the ball a lot. High usage player. Built is correct. Other guys stood around way too much. Also losing Iverson while a good defensive player was a black hole on offense. Now if if if if Potter steps up and Reuvers takes the jump we think Yeah. it could be a good thing. Back to running the swing offense, or a little quicker version of it I think is what this team needs to be the thorn in the side of teams like a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bemidjigopher View Post
    You're team isn't very good at shooting. Without Happ to keep the defense honest it'll only allow teams to be more aggressive on the perimeter, and your time protection will be exposed. I'm not high Purdue so you might finish eigth

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    When you had Happ and Iverson in there. Yeah they brought the team shooting down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser SŲze View Post
    You might be right. I guess I could see them finishing 10th.
    I guess when you finish in the top 4 in 19 out of 20 years expectations are high. I wouldn't bet against them. a 7th place finish would get Gard in a little trouble..Unless we lose kids to injury or something bad like suspensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigeddysprings View Post
    I guess when you finish in the top 4 in 19 out of 20 years expectations are high. I wouldn't bet against them. a 7th place finish would get Gard in a little trouble..Unless we lose kids to injury or something bad like suspensions.
    Injuries are not a good excuse, a good coach should have depth to handle it, and suspensions are on the coach too because he recruited them. If Gard gets 7th or worse he should be fired. Clearly Wisconsin is too good to accept such mediocrity, and its acceptance will only harm the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gopher Teeth View Post
    Injuries are not a good excuse, a good coach should have depth to handle it, and suspensions are on the coach too because he recruited them. If Gard gets 7th or worse he should be fired. Clearly Wisconsin is too good to accept such mediocrity, and its acceptance will only harm the program.
    We think it is pretty good around here when we are 9-11. Gard will be in trouble if he 9-11.

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    As another Badger here, I am a bit more hesitant to proclaim my team destined for a high finish next season.

    I do agree with both Eddy and built that the loss of Happ will offer some new opportunities to run a more effective offense. The question is whether those taking the extra shots are more efficient.

    My biggest concern is that the league has at least 5 teams that probably start with more talent. Getting into the top 4 again looks to be very difficult. My best guess at this point would be for a finish at 6th with a record of 11-9 or 10-10. It is just so tough to win on the road in this league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obobo55 View Post
    My biggest concern is that the league has at least 5 teams that probably start with more talent. Getting into the top 4 again looks to be very difficult. My best guess at this point would be for a finish at 6th with a record of 11-9 or 10-10. It is just so tough to win on the road in this league.
    I think this is a pretty fair assessment of the Badgers. If the last few years have shown us anything, it's that it probably takes an injury to a key player or two for Wisconsin to finish below 500 with the style they play. They just don't lose to the bottom half of the conference much. While they still return a good deal of experience, they also have very questionable depth. Sadly, it'll likely be another year the Gophers finish under them in the standings. Hope I am wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by builtbadgers View Post
    Anyone want to wager on UW ? I say they are 7th or better, i win. 8th or worse you win. We have been reporting their demise for 25 years. They will invert their offense and spread the court without Happ. They will be more in a movement of sides instead of watch Happ. The question is where will we finish because 10th would not be acceptable to anyone.
    There is the built we know, protecting Wisconsin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gopher Teeth View Post
    Injuries are not a good excuse, a good coach should have depth to handle it, and suspensions are on the coach too because he recruited them. If Gard gets 7th or worse he should be fired. Clearly Wisconsin is too good to accept such mediocrity, and its acceptance will only harm the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnBurner View Post
    There is the built we know, protecting Wisconsin.
    UW does not need protection. Their success takes care of that and more. Most reasonable fans would love to match the accomplishments of that program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winona Gopher View Post
    If Purdue finishes 3rd next year, Painter deserves a lifetime contract. I just don't know who scores on that team next year. Eastern is a nice player, but he can't shoot outside of a FT. Hunter didn't show a whole lot that makes me think he's going to take the next step. Haarms is a nice player, but can you build around him? He has benefited by having some really good players around him. I do really like Wheeler, but he's not much of a shooter/scorer. I don't know much about who they bring in, they got a grad transfer commit not long ago, but there's a lot to replace there in Cline and Edwards

    One team I think could make a bigger jump is Rutgers. I don't know their roster situation, but I thought they returned everyone of importance and they play some great defense. Just need to score more effectively.

    I also think Illinois is going to be in the top 4. Return everyone of importance and they add Kofi Cockburn who was incredibly impressive against Tre Williams' team in the prep tournament.
    The Purdue grad transfer is a guard from High Point that averaged like 16 or 17 there so that will help, but I agree, Iím not sure how well they will replace their scoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnBurner View Post
    There is the built we know, protecting Wisconsin.
    I canít stand the Badgers and get irritated by Built, but doesnít he end up right more often than not with his Wisconsin predictions? Their boring style wins more often than it loses-even when their talent level is down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnGopher View Post
    The Purdue grad transfer is a guard from High Point that averaged like 16 or 17 there so that will help, but I agree, I’m not sure how well they will replace their scoring.
    Purdue's most valuable commodity is Painter. He is a incredible teacher, coaches from all over are constantly picking his brain on flex and spread sets, watch how precise the ball screens are and in variety. Beautiful. He knows how to find the talent and skills a mold it into a team. Very impressive.

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