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    Default All Things Big Ten NBA Draft Early Entrants

    Gone
    Iggy Brazdeikis (Michigan)
    Tyler Cook (Iowa)
    Carsen Edwards (Purdue)
    Bruno Fernando (Maryland)
    Romeo Langford (Indiana)
    Charles Matthews (Michigan)
    Jordan Poole (Michigan)
    Isaiah Roby (Nebraska)
    Nick Ward (Michigan State)

    Still TBD
    Amir Coffey (Minnesota)
    Lamar Stevens (Penn State)

    Announced They'll Return To School
    Geo Baker (Rutgers)
    Anthony Cowan, Jr. (Maryland)
    Ayo Dosunmu (Illinois)
    Al Durham (Indiana)
    Luka Garza (Iowa)
    Devonte Green (Indiana)
    Aaron Henry (Michigan State)
    Jalen Smith (Maryland)
    Justin Smith (Indiana)
    Xavier Tillman (Michigan State)
    Mike Watkins (Penn State)
    Kaleb Wesson (Ohio State)
    Joe Wieskamp (Iowa)
    Cassius Winston (Michigan State)
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    Thanks. Cook is good but I wonder if he is a first rounder.

    Carsen is great and striking while the iron is hot with his great tourney. He is a little short for NBA standards. Will be interesting.

    Romeo is a classic draft on potential. His on court performance this year would not likely put him in the first round, but we have been told for a couple years that he is a one and done, and so it must be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Man View Post
    Thanks. Cook is good but I wonder if he is a first rounder.

    Carsen is great and striking while the iron is hot with his great tourney. He is a little short for NBA standards. Will be interesting.

    Romeo is a classic draft on potential. His on court performance this year would not likely put him in the first round, but we have been told for a couple years that he is a one and done, and so it must be so.
    Something for Matthew hurt to watch - Indiana one and done - anybody have stats on one and done that aren’t blue blood programs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Man View Post
    Thanks. Cook is good but I wonder if he is a first rounder.
    I think Cook would have been a first rounder 15 years ago. In 2019, not even close. Cook and Jordan Murphy are very similar players.

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    Default Xavier Tillman will return to MSU



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    With the new rules, prospects can sign with an agent and still return to school (like Amir is doing).

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    I found this to be the most interesting line in the linked story:

    "A year ago, the NBA’s initial list of early entrants included a record 236 names, but many of those players eventually withdrew from consideration prior to the May and June deadlines."

    Anybody know how many early entrants were taken in last year's draft?

    JTG
    Last edited by rockford; 04-08-2019 at 10:24 AM.

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    Havent seen Amir on any mocks yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Man View Post
    Thanks. Cook is good but I wonder if he is a first rounder.

    Carsen is great and striking while the iron is hot with his great tourney. He is a little short for NBA standards. Will be interesting.

    Romeo is a classic draft on potential. His on court performance this year would not likely put him in the first round, but we have been told for a couple years that he is a one and done, and so it must be so.
    I will be very surprised if Cook is a first rounder but, of course, much can depend on performance during the combine. I expect Edwards will be a second rounder as well but he might sneak into the lower end of the first.

    Langford has to go. Right now he is being projected between 10 and 20 on mock drafts. He would be more likely to lower his draft ranking if he stayed. Right now the difference between a #13 and a #24 is about a million per year and that discrepancy persists throughout the rookie contract years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockford View Post
    I found this to be the most interesting line in the linked story:

    "A year ago, the NBA’s initial list of early entrants included a record 236 names, but many of those players eventually withdrew from consideration prior to the May and June deadlines."

    Anybody know how many early entrants were taken in last year's draft?

    JTG
    Most of last year's first rounders were early entrants. In contrast, only a small number of seniors are drafted in the first round. If you go back over the last five years (total of 150 first round picks), you will count fewer than 20 seniors in total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SelectionSunday View Post

    Well, Zhaire Smith was a 3 star recruit by Rivals and ungraded by ESPN but he went in the middle of the first round after his freshman year last season. I'd say that Tillman was at least as impressive so maybe he should give it a shot. It doesn't seem to be the most impressive draft so far but one never knows until they start playing the games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjbfbp View Post
    Most of last year's first rounders were early entrants. In contrast, only a small number of seniors are drafted in the first round. If you go back over the last five years (total of 150 first round picks), you will count fewer than 20 seniors in total.
    Thanks for the info.

    It raises the question: Were these players drafted because they were younger? Or were these young players drafted because their skills were simply superior to their peers?

    JTG

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockford View Post
    Thanks for the info.

    It raises the question: Were these players drafted because they were younger? Or were these young players drafted because their skills were simply superior to their peers?

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    I think both. They tend to draft mostly young players (a disproportionate amount are freshmen) with the high picks. These are mostly players they believe have high levels of athleticism and potentially high ceilings. In the very best cases (i.e., Ben Simmons, John Wall) they expect them to be immediate starters and maybe budding stars. In other cases, they understand that they might take longer to develop but they feel that development is better handled by the NBA than the college ranks.

    They tend to look at seniors more as players who can play right away in supporting roles but these players tend to be competing with free agents from various professional ranks (domestic and abroad) for supporting roster spots.

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    Looking at last year's draft, 51 of the 60 players selected were coming from college (the others were international, sat out, prep).

    18 of those 51 (35%) were freshmen. Frosh were especially popular at the top, comprising 8 of the top 10 picks, and 13 of the top 18.

    Last year, 181 "underclassed" college players declared for the draft; 100 of those players (55%) returned to college. Of the other 81 players, only 40 were drafted. Of all the "underclassed" players who declared their interest in the draft, only 22% were actually drafted.

    When you consider that more than a third of draft picks are going to one-and-done freshmen, it becomes obvious how incredibly high the bar is for the "non-pre-ordained" players. 14 of the 30 players selected in the first round were freshmen.

    If last year was typical, then only around 33 non-freshmen college players will be chosen in the next draft.

    The Big Question: Has Coffey distinguished himself as one of the top 33 NBA prospects who are not freshmen? Or will he have a better chance at accomplishing that during his senior season?

    JTG

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