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    Quote Originally Posted by Gophers_4life View Post
    Let’s keep in mind the actual point of this thread: conservatives call any policy they don’t like “socialism”. They’ve been blowing that dogwhistle at least since the 50’s and have never stopped doing it.


    Now you return to arguing with S2, about his positions which have been specifically crafted and taken up because they can’t be disproven. Does that prove that his positions are correct? Of course not.
    Maybe some do. But what Truman said in his quote are ACTUAL EXAMPLES OF SOCIALISM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    what Truman said in his quote are ACTUAL EXAMPLES OF SOCIALISM.
    Only in the sense of calling ketchup an example of a carcinogen, since it may have given at least one person cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gophers_4life View Post
    Sometimes it does, more often it rewards corruption and evil behaviors, because it only really cares about maximizing return on capital investment (hence the name).
    That's not correct. The more capitalist the society, the more virtuous, the less corruption, and the less evil. It's a system, not a human being, so it doesn't "care" about anything. It's based on voluntary interaction. Maybe, just an idea, but maybe you should spend 5 minutes understanding the system that you'll probably spend most of your life fighting against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    It's a system, not a human being, so it doesn't "care" about anything.
    Exactly why it’s outcomes are so very often the opposite of rewarding virtue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gophers_4life View Post
    Only in the sense of calling ketchup an example of a carcinogen, since it may have given at least one person cancer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gophers_4life View Post
    “Socialism is a scareword they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years. Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security. Socialism is what they called farm price supports. Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance. Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.

    HARRY S. TRUMAN, speech, Oct. 10, 1952”
    Public power is socialism.
    Social security is absolutely socialism.
    Price controls are socialism.
    Deposit insurance is a socialist government program.


    Have you spent 5 minutes learning about socialism? Or do you just hear an AOC speech or Bernie speech and think, right on man! That makes sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    Public power is socialism.
    Social security is absolutely socialism.
    Price controls are socialism.
    Deposit insurance is a socialist government program.
    A butter knife is a deadly weapon. It should be called “deadly weapon”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    You mean a maze of private roads could be confusing?

    You won't have time to speed, stopping to pay tolls every few miles. And I'm sure there would be an app that could tell you the speed limit and which side of the road to drive on for each company. Just look at Apple and their former CEO Steve Apple!
    Impossible scenario. Ogee would be designing them instead of bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    Hypocrite and Hack.
    The official white flag. Your concession is noted.

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    Section2 principles of granite at work:

    Trump and the GOP blow up the deficit and fail to cut any spending despite being the party of fiscal responsibility: Meh. Waiting to see.

    Trump engaging a trade war with China imposing billions in tariffs: Meh. Waiting to see.

    Trump shuts down government over border wall 2 disagrees with: He's owning libs though. MAGA!


    Airline regulations: I'm going to passionately write several pages of reasons why they are terrible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    Public power is socialism.
    Social security is absolutely socialism.
    Price controls are socialism.
    Deposit insurance is a socialist government program.


    Have you spent 5 minutes learning about socialism? Or do you just hear an AOC speech or Bernie speech and think, right on man! That makes sense!
    3 out of those 4 are something 90% of Republicans support. But it doesn't stop them from screaming Socialist! as a pejorative at those on the other side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    3 out of those 4 are something 90% of Republicans support. But it doesn't stop them from screaming Socialist! as a pejorative at those on the other side.
    Winner!

    You get a prize for addressing the actual topic of the thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    Hmmm. See 24, I have a huge problem with the flow of this argument:

    Airlines are unregulated.

    No they aren't, here are mountains of regulations.


    A logical response is not "so how does it affect you?" It's either: I'm wrong. or No you misunderstood my statement.
    That object quickly approaching is a great big....box. Be careful.

    You’re anything but logical so stop thinking you understand what logic is. A logical person would understand the fallacy of your position on capitalism and STOP taking it. A person who keeps doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is............


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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    I'm getting beat up, I'm not enjoying getting beat up in this argument. There must be some kind of safe space, AH YES! Private Roads.. PHEW. That was getting uncomfortable. I win. Lincoln bad. WIN. Deal with it.
    The idiocy of your positions will haunt you forever........if I have anything to do with it anyway.

    On the bright side; you have provided much comical relief at parties. You’ll love this one. I told Donna Braziel about your take on Lee, Lincoln and the proclamation emancipation and she called me a liar........once she got done laughing.

    You should give me your home number so I can prove someone like you actually exists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    Section2 principles of granite at work:

    Trump and the GOP blow up the deficit and fail to cut any spending despite being the party of fiscal responsibility: Meh. Waiting to see.

    Trump engaging a trade war with China imposing billions in tariffs: Meh. Waiting to see.

    Trump shuts down government over border wall 2 disagrees with: He's owning libs though. MAGA!


    Airline regulations: I'm going to passionately write several pages of reasons why they are terrible!
    100% always in favor of massive spending cuts. Biggest roadblock? Democrats.
    100% in favor of ZERO tariffs. Neither party in favor of zero tariffs.
    Don't care about political theater and shutdowns, no difference in party.

    Howie: Passionate defender of socialism for 6 pages. Huge Ron Paul fan though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    3 out of those 4 are something 90% of Republicans support. But it doesn't stop them from screaming Socialist! as a pejorative at those on the other side.
    Aren't you the guy who was also calling my claim of half the country being socialist crazy talk? Make up your mind Howie.

    I call SOCIALISM SOCIALISM. I call THINGS THAT ARE SOCIALIST SOCIALIST. I personally think it IS a pejorative. But that's not really the point. The point is that you are a passionate defender of socialism. So how about you just own it?

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