Not necessarily something I think is comparable, but sure? I've been on here many times saying if we don't get to the tournament, we need to move on, I'm not going to overreact to s loss to a Wisconsin team that is playing really well. I'll wait and let the rest of the Big 10 season play out. I still think we win 4 more in conference, but if not and there is someone good who is actually willing to come here, then yes move on. I'm not interested in just moving on for the sake of moving on though.
Let's just all move on from the tubby Pitino comparison. Dont get me wrong, I'm a pitino backer, but im starting to think also it's time to move on. I personally dont think we would be in any better shape with tubby as our coach. The foster, Ellis recruiting class was gonna be the start of the downfall! I think it's absolutely fantastic that tubby beat Wisconsin 4 times! At 4-6 against them I'm not sure why there isn't a statue of him outside of William's arena! Is this gonna happen every game we play when we lose? Pitino is whatever against nebraska, but tubby beat them so many times. Let's move on from tubby! He's not our coach anymore.Tubby was at least competitive against Wisky, 4 wins in 10 games. Pitino is 2-9.
I blame non of last nights game on Pitino. Play defense like that, subbing for defense made sense. The game looks ugly because both teams shot it poorly , we got good looks considering it is against a very good defense. Coach can not make shots. One more for us, one less for them and we win. I despise losing but the scouting was there, the plan was great. Turnovers were low. Players need to make shots. He is stuck choosing between Dupree and IW. IW brings the ability to get in the gaps but often gets in trouble there and he had a very poor decision on a shot he took. Worse, Pitino just can not trust his defense. The season does reach the point where he may have to roll with IW. Last night was not Pitino's fault.
I blame non of last nights game on Pitino. Play defense like that, subbing for defense made sense. The game looks ugly because both teams shot it poorly , we got good looks considering it is against a very good defense. Coach can not make shots. One more for us, one less for them and we win. I despise losing but the scouting was there, the plan was great. Turnovers were low. Players need to make shots. He is stuck choosing between Dupree and IW. IW brings the ability to get in the gaps but often gets in trouble there and he had a very poor decision on a shot he took. Worse, Pitino just can not trust his defense. The season does reach the point where he may have to roll with IW. Last night was not Pitino's fault.
I blame none of last nights game on Pitino. Play defense like that, subbing for defense made sense. The game looks ugly because both teams shot it poorly , we got good looks considering it is against a very good defense. Coach can not make shots. One more for us, one less for them and we win. I despise losing but the scouting was there, the plan was great. Turnovers were low. Players need to make shots. He is stuck choosing between Dupree and IW. IW brings the ability to get in the gaps but often gets in trouble there and he had a very poor decision on a shot he took. Worse, Pitino just can not trust his defense. The season does reach the point where he may have to roll with IW. Last night was not Pitino's fault.
I blame none of last nights game on Pitino. Play defense like that, subbing for defense made sense. The game looks ugly because both teams shot it poorly , we got good looks considering it is against a very good defense. Coach can not make shots. One more for us, one less for them and we win. I despise losing but the scouting was there, the plan was great. Turnovers were low. Players need to make shots. He is stuck choosing between Dupree and IW. IW brings the ability to get in the gaps but often gets in trouble there and he had a very poor decision on a shot he took. Worse, Pitino just can not trust his defense. The season does reach the point where he may have to roll with IW. Last night was not Pitino's fault.
I don't know how you can't say it's not Pitino's fault. IMO, Happ is the best player on either team. After that, I would take Murphy, Coffey and Oturu over anyone on Wisky's team. I think we are more talented, and he fails to get the most out of his players. We look completely incoherent on offense and any success we have is due largely to the players individual abilities to score and not due to running a competent offensive scheme. I'm more than ready to end the Richard Pitino era...
That's the wrong way to look at it. Whether or not to fire Pitino, and who we would hire to replace him, are two completely separate decisions. If the evaluation is that Pitino isn't performing the job at an acceptable level, he needs to be fired. If we miss the Tournament (again), and Pitino is retained, we're sending the message that 1 appearance in 6 seasons is acceptable at Minnesota. I personally don't feel that production is acceptable here regardless of the coach's last name.
What? Did you just defend Pitino??
I do agree. you can't make players make shots. it seems everyone is slumping at the same time.. Gabe, DuPree, Coffee
Curry did not look comfortable last night, noticeable limp
… we should have made open shots
Not only do we have a more talented roster, we also have a far more athletic roster. How do you allow yourself to be pulled into the pace of play that wisconsin dictates? That's asking to lose. We should have been playing 10+ guys and running up and down the floor.
I think the gophers took a hit when they lost a couple assistant coaches. The recruiting has lost some strength and our offense is worse than when we had so called less talent
I blame none of last nights game on Pitino. Play defense like that, subbing for defense made sense. The game looks ugly because both teams shot it poorly , we got good looks considering it is against a very good defense. Coach can not make shots. One more for us, one less for them and we win. I despise losing but the scouting was there, the plan was great. Turnovers were low. Players need to make shots. He is stuck choosing between Dupree and IW. IW brings the ability to get in the gaps but often gets in trouble there and he had a very poor decision on a shot he took. Worse, Pitino just can not trust his defense. The season does reach the point where he may have to roll with IW. Last night was not Pitino's fault.
I think the gophers took a hit when they lost a couple assistant coaches. The recruiting has lost some strength and our offense is worse than when we had so called less talent
That is probably why we're sitting with 3 open scholarships, but I don't think Ben or Kamini were here for their X's and O's.
Recruiting is the biggest thing for me wanting a new coaching staff. Pitino has shown he can't be even a little consistent getting quality players. There are too many on this roster that shouldn't be.
What I now wonder when we get our "best" recruits, and they so often don't pan out... Did the other coaching staffs see what was going to happen and that's how we get them in the first place?I was never a Washington guy but remember how excited everyone was?
I blame none of last nights game on Pitino. Play defense like that, subbing for defense made sense. The game looks ugly because both teams shot it poorly , we got good looks considering it is against a very good defense. Coach can not make shots. One more for us, one less for them and we win. I despise losing but the scouting was there, the plan was great. Turnovers were low. Players need to make shots. He is stuck choosing between Dupree and IW. IW brings the ability to get in the gaps but often gets in trouble there and he had a very poor decision on a shot he took. Worse, Pitino just can not trust his defense. The season does reach the point where he may have to roll with IW. Last night was not Pitino's fault.
Recruiting is the biggest thing for me wanting a new coaching staff. Pitino has shown he can't be even a little consistent getting quality players. There are too many on this roster that shouldn't be.
Overall I would define Pitino as an above average recruiter and a below average X's and O's coach. I'm not sure that combo works here. If he could land the Hurts' and Jones' (or even just 1/3) it might. But as is, it's not. Give me an average recruiter who can still keep the Kaslshuer and Oturu types and is good with the X's and O's.
Not only do we have a more talented roster, we also have a far more athletic roster. How do you allow yourself to be pulled into the pace of play that wisconsin dictates? That's asking to lose. We should have been playing 10+ guys and running up and down the floor.