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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogee Oglethorpe View Post
    This argument will never, ever get old. The lefties love to revel in the fact that Hillary got into the clubhouse in fewer strokes than Trump, but in a match play event.

    Trump basically picked up his ball on the tee box on at least two holes (New York and California for starters) and said, you can have this one, I'll see you on the next tee box. The Dems/Hillary failed miserably in almost every race that mattered around the country, dumped almost every close race, even a few where she essentially only had to 2-putt to win and threw up all over her shoes; states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, et al

    So now they want to make it a stroke play event, which would mean a massively disproportionate amount of campaigning and effort and attention in a few select states and the rest of the country given the middle finger. That's really what the Lefties want?

    According to the rules of the game, Hillary and the Dems were absolutely slaughtered by Trump, both from a strategy standpoint and a results standpoint. But nice work on getting into the clubhouse in 2 or 3 less strokes. Hey, at least it's SOMETHING, right?
    Problem with the rules of the game is this. It is a known fact that Trump cheats at Golf. It is also a known fact that people who cheat in Golf are also cheaters in their business dealings etc. Think. He had over 3,000 law suits against him prior to entering the White House and doesn't pay his bills. Kind of like he doesn't want to pay the contractors that were affected by the shut down. Bottom line is this. Trump is a cheater period. He lost the election, but was able to win in a few states where there were gerrymandering issues and so forth. This guy is going to end up in jail some day. He isn't above the law like he thinks he is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by #2Gopher View Post
    Problem with the rules of the game is this. It is a known fact that Trump cheats at Golf. It is also a known fact that people who cheat in Golf are also cheaters in their business dealings etc. Think. He had over 3,000 law suits against him prior to entering the White House and doesn't pay his bills. Kind of like he doesn't want to pay the contractors that were affected by the shut down. Bottom line is this. Trump is a cheater period. He lost the election, but was able to win in a few states where there were gerrymandering issues and so forth. This guy is going to end up in jail some day. He isn't above the law like he thinks he is.
    2 questions:
    1) he lost the election, how?

    2) How do you gerrymander a state wide vote?

    He cheats at golf. IMPEACH!!!

    Sorry, but your post was really ignorant.

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    How does "gerrymandering and so forth" effect a Presidential election? You don't really know anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by #2Gopher View Post
    Problem with the rules of the game is this. It is a known fact that Trump cheats at Golf. It is also a known fact that people who cheat in Golf are also cheaters in their business dealings etc. Think. He had over 3,000 law suits against him prior to entering the White House and doesn't pay his bills. Kind of like he doesn't want to pay the contractors that were affected by the shut down. Bottom line is this. Trump is a cheater period. He lost the election, but was able to win in a few states where there were gerrymandering issues and so forth. This guy is going to end up in jail some day. He isn't above the law like he thinks he is.
    This could arguably be one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. I literally feel a little uneasy after reading it. I would say it's disturbing to read something thinks like this but the more disturbing issue is, you're far from alone. This is where we're at right now it seems...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogee Oglethorpe View Post
    This could arguably be one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. I literally feel a little uneasy after reading it. I would say it's disturbing to read something thinks like this but the more disturbing issue is, you're far from alone. This is where we're at right now it seems...
    He must have been in AOC’s government class.

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    Next we will be informed on how the Rs held the Senate by gerrymandering and so forth. 0723!!! Teach your people something. They are trying to make you look dumb by association.
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    The next up and comer in the Democrat Party:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

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    #2 posts mostly sh!t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogee Oglethorpe View Post
    This could arguably be one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. I literally feel a little uneasy after reading it. I would say it's disturbing to read something thinks like this but the more disturbing issue is, you're far from alone. This is where we're at right now it seems...
    This is the dumbest generation in history. They are loaded with information about eating habits, pop culture, up to the minute social rankings and have no critical thinking ability and no wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    You didn't fix anything, that's literally what I said. Deal with it.
    Sure. You can just save the golly gee I'm open-minded to centrist Dems and Libertarians part going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face The Facts View Post
    Name two other people (other than Howard Schultz) who are currently identifying with the Democratic Party who you would vote for if they announce?
    Don't hold your breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerGopherFan View Post
    2 questions:
    1) he lost the election, how?

    2) How do you gerrymander a state wide vote?

    He cheats at golf. IMPEACH!!!

    Sorry, but your post was really ignorant.
    Lots of folks seem convinced Senate seats are stolen via gerrymandering. God help us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    Lots of folks seem convinced Senate seats are stolen via gerrymandering. God help us all.
    Minnesotans.
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    Has Garcetti made it official yet he is running?

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/dr-m...t-should-we-do
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    While the Dems are being the goody two shoes party the GOP is stealing the Country.

    “When the US Supreme Court takes up the issue of partisan gerrymandering this year, they will decide not only the fate of popular control in the House of Representatives and many state legislatures, but quite possibly the Presidency as well. If four Republican controlled state governments (Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida) change the way they allocate Electoral College votes, President Trump could be re-elected in 2020, even if he loses the popular vote by 6 percentage points. All the states need do is to allocate Electoral College votes by congressional district (like Nebraska and Maine), instead of giving all of the state’s electors to the statewide winner.

    Of course, this strategy only works to the benefit of the Republicans because the congressional districts in these states are heavily gerrymandered. As we argue in our book Gerrymandering in America, the congressional districts in many states are drawn to advantage the Republican Party. For example, in Pennsylvania in 2012 the Republicans took 13 out of 18 House districts even though the Democrats received more votes. If this partisan gerrymandering were outlawed, then allocating Electoral College votes by congressional district in the four states would actually disadvantage the Republican candidate for President.

    However, if the Supreme Court continues to allow partisan gerrymandering – as it has since its decision Vieth v. Jubelirer in 2004 – then the plan is highly effective and there is nothing that can stop the four states adopting it. Allocating Electors by congressional district is clearly legal – Nebraska and Maine already do it this way. Furthermore, the Republicans control the state legislature in all four states.

    How allocating Electors by congressional districts could benefit the Republican candidate

    Surprisingly, the strategy that is most effective for the Republicans is to change how Presidential Electors are allocated in certain states that voted for Trump in 2016.

    Of course, the Republicans would get an advantage by allocating Electors more proportionally in states that Clinton won. The problem is that this would require the support of Democrats. For example, Republican legislators in Virginia and Minnesota have already proposed such measures, and Stephen Wolf describes this as an attempt to “gerrymander the electoral college”. The problem is that both these states have Democratic governors, who would surely veto such proposals. Similarly Harry Enten at fivethirtyeight.com shows that if all states allocated Electors by Congressional districts, the Republicans could win the Presidency despite a 5 percent popular vote deficit. Again the problem is that this would require Democratic controlled states to agree to such a system.

    However, in Wisconsin, Michigan and Florida, Republicans control both the state legislature and the governorship. They can change how Presidential Electors are allocated in these states. In Pennsylvania, the Republicans control the state legislature, but there is a Democratic Governor who would presumably veto. However, there are gubernatorial elections in 2018 and Governor Tom Wolf appears vulnerable.

    But how would making changes in states that already voted for Trump further benefit him? In 2016 all Pennsylvania’s 20 Electors went to Trump. If Pennsylvania’s allocated its Electors by Congressional districts, Trump would only have received 14 of them. However, a swing of less than 1 percent would have given all 20 Pennsylvania Electors to Clinton. By going to allocation by Congressional district, the Republicans can ensure they receive most of Pennsylvania’s Electors, even if they get fewer votes than the Democrats. This amounts to taking out insurance against a swing to the Democrats.”

    https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/20...a-second-term/


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