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2 career tackles, having played in 20 games total. I'm assuming he would have two seasons to play with the Gophers.
2 career tackles, having played in 20 games total. I'm assuming he would have two seasons to play with the Gophers.
Is there an example of a grad transfer that's had 2 years of eligibility?
Yes. It's of course rare because it would require either a player having graduated in 3 years while a varsity athlete, or a player getting an injury waiver and being granted a 6th year.
Evan Boudreaux at Purdue (apparently is 21, looks 41) transferred from Dartmouth to Purdue to play basketball with 2 years remaining (graduated in 3 years from Dartmouth). Assuming that Jalen Hurts transfers, he'll have 2 years of immediate eligibility at his new spot because he's already graduated.
Hurts will only have 1 right?
He was the starter in 2016, 2017 and he played in more than 4 games last year.
I'm guessing he has two years to play. He redshirted in 2015 and can use a medical redshirt for 2016.
Do we think this says anything about the likelihood of getting Kristian Williams?
To qualify for a medical redshirt (6th year) the player needs to have lost significant time in two seasons. I don't see how Dew-Treadway would qualify for that.
Outside of the total 85 scholarship impact, I don't think a grad transfer DT who will likely be here in 2019 only would have much impact on a high school DT.
My bigger fear, and this is just me reading the tea leaves, is that this is OJ Smith health related. He missed 6 games mid season due to concussion. And then the bowl game with undisclosed injury. If that was another concussion, then I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he hung it up. Head injuries are nothing to mess around with.
Outside of the total 85 scholarship impact, I don't think a grad transfer DT who will likely be here in 2019 only would have much impact on a high school DT.
My bigger fear, and this is just me reading the tea leaves, is that this is OJ Smith health related. He missed 6 games mid season due to concussion. And then the bowl game with undisclosed injury. If that was another concussion, then I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he hung it up. Head injuries are nothing to mess around with.
Yes. It's of course rare because it would require either a player having graduated in 3 years while a varsity athlete, or a player getting an injury waiver and being granted a 6th year.
Evan Boudreaux at Purdue (apparently is 21, looks 41) transferred from Dartmouth to Purdue to play basketball with 2 years remaining (graduated in 3 years from Dartmouth). Assuming that Jalen Hurts transfers, he'll have 2 years of immediate eligibility at his new spot because he's already graduated.
Outside of the total 85 scholarship impact, I don't think a grad transfer DT who will likely be here in 2019 only would have much impact on a high school DT.
My bigger fear, and this is just me reading the tea leaves, is that this is OJ Smith health related. He missed 6 games mid season due to concussion. And then the bowl game with undisclosed injury. If that was another concussion, then I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he hung it up. Head injuries are nothing to mess around with.
Good point! Given the need to get to 85, this makes me wonder if there are transfers away from the Gophers coming, especially from the 2017 class. I have no inside info, it just seems similar to USC with Grimes.
I don't believe there is any such guideline. The NCAA allows players to apply for a Hardship Waiver, for a vast multitude of reaons, to the purposes of extending their five year clock to six years. In football, usually it has to do with losing a season to an injury. But there are many types of hardships allowed/considered. In women's sports, I believe they even have considerations for pregnancy.
It's worth a shot, if he wants to try to play here two seasons.
One thing to consider, though, is that we will have *NINE* guys on scholarship at the DT position who won't be freshman (red shirt or true) in 2019:
OJ Smith - sr
Silver - sr
Renner - sr
Dew-Treadway - sr/jr?
Schad - jr
Umlor - soph
Teague - soph
Hickcox - soph
M. Robinson - soph
Plus we have Carter and Cheney as true freshman who will get a look, and in theory K Williams is still a possibility to sign. Very, very crowded room.
Now granted, Hickcox and Robinson didn't get much playing time (don't believe the latter saw the field at all this year).
I think you're confusing a medical hardship waiver (commonly called "medical redshirt") with being granted a sixth year of eligibility.
The medical hardship waiver is pretty much done now because of the new RS rules.
D1 athletes have five calendar years to play four seasons. The NCAA can grant a sixth year and does so only when colleges can prove the player lost two seasons because of reasons beyond their control, like injury or illness.
Being a RS isn't considered a reason "beyond your control" and MD-T only lost 1 season to injury.
This rule might be outdated, but I believe it was the rule last season.
Certainly could be related to Smith's current health or could also be viewed as an insurance plan if/when Smith gets hurt again. As far as I am concerned you can never have too many options along the offensive and defensive lines so even if Micah just ends up being a rotation guy it is still well worth it.
The bigger thing of note is that we are seeing guys transferring in here from some big name schools. Maybe the previous staffs didn't go out looking for these players but this is certainly a new phenomenon around here, at least as far as I can remember.
Off the top of my head:
Grimes - USC
Dew-Treadway - Notre Dame
Williamson - Florida
Smith - Alabama
I know under Kill we had the Ohio State O-Lineman that never panned out due to injury but can't think of many others that left helmet schools to come here for one reason or another. The returns on Smith (when healthy) and Williamson have been solid to date, hopefully we will get similar contributions from MDT and Grimes.