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    Quote Originally Posted by die hard gopher View Post
    Hopefully no one.

    I would have an especially hard time seeing Coughlin or Barber opt out.
    Winfield would also be eligible to do this I believe... If he has a terrific injury free year, I would say he is the most likely to sit out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
    Winfield would also be eligible to do this I believe... If he has a terrific injury free year, I would say he is the most likely to sit out...

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    I could see Smith or Brooks too.


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    With all these guys sitting out we might as well forfeit next year's bowl game now

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    Please God, someone kill this thread.
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    Hopefully next year's opponent has a bunch of really good players, or we're screwed.

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    Just to point out -the Gophers won their bowl game this season, so guys opting out of the game became a moot point. But - thinking out loud - if key players opt out of a future bowl game, and the Gophers lose the game, then we're having a very different discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gophers_4life View Post
    Well it's insurance. Their business model is to deny as many claims as they think they can legally get away with.
    Which is why if I offered the same ďprotectionsĒ Iíd be in jail for extortion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Keep stirring it... youíre becoming a legend.
    Itís true....we should have. We also should have won 8 game in the regular season this year.

    But we did not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    But how many more games should we have won in 2014? 2004?
    Well, we could go back in history and say we should have won x games every year. In most it would be we should have won more. In a few it would be....we had no business winning ďxĒ number of games.

    In 2016 we should have beaten Penn State and Iowa. We didnít.

    In 2015 we should have beaten Michigan. We didnít.

    In 2014 we should have beaten Illinois and Wisconsin. We didnít.

    I could easily go on, because, yeah, itís true.

    The only reason your balking at this is because you think this is only an attack on Fleck. It isnít. Usually, you donít look back at the end of the year and lament all of the losses in program history that should have been wins (well beyond some of Glen Masons epic losses - we seem to have a hard time letting those go).

    We should have won at least 8 games regular season this year (Maryland, Nebraska, and Illinois stand out Maryland stand out as games we should have oils have won), but didnít . Even PJ Fleck thought so as he fires his best friend Robb Smith in no small part at mid season because we didnít.

    We should have won 6 in 2017. We didnít.

    This isnít solely a PJ Fleck issue, so CTFD. Not every should, coulda, woulda is a direct attach on your close personal friend PJ Fleck. His done some things right. Heís had some epic failures. The good thing is that we now know epic failure = epic growth, right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by highwayman View Post
    Please God, someone kill this thread.
    Right, what's the point? Like anyone as any insight on what any of these players will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caliGopher View Post
    Well, we could go back in history and say we should have won x games every year. In most it would be we should have won more. In a few it would be....we had no business winning “x” number of games.

    In 2016 we should have beaten Penn State and Iowa. We didn’t.

    In 2015 we should have beaten Michigan. We didn’t.

    In 2014 we should have beaten Illinois and Wisconsin. We didn’t.

    I could easily go on, because, yeah, it’s true.

    The only reason your balking at this is because you think this is only an attack on Fleck. It isn’t. Usually, you don’t look back at the end of the year and lament all of the losses in program history that should have been wins (well beyond some of Glen Masons epic losses - we seem to have a hard time letting those go).

    We should have won at least 8 games regular season this year (Maryland, Nebraska, and Illinois stand out Maryland stand out as games we should have oils have won), but didn’t . Even PJ Fleck thought so as he fires his best friend Robb Smith in no small part at mid season because we didn’t.

    We should have won 6 in 2017. We didn’t.

    This isn’t solely a PJ Fleck issue, so CTFD. Not every should, coulda, woulda is a direct attach on your close personal friend PJ Fleck. His done some things right. He’s had some epic failures. The good thing is that we now know epic failure = epic growth, right?


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    It’s a stupid argument to say we should have won x more games. Every season, every team will think they should have won more than they did. On the flip side, there are always games we win that we should have lost. But no one remembers those games. We had no business beating significantly better teams like Fresno St and Wisconsin this year. We overachieved in some games, and underachieved in others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by btowngopher View Post
    Right, what's the point? Like anyone as any insight on what any of these players will do.
    G-D it gets annoying reading posts like these, and the one before it from the troll out in Arizona who thinks he owns GopherHole.

    No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to click on the thread. No one is forcing you to read any of the posts. No one is forcing you to add a reply to the thread.

    Shut. Up. Let folks use the board. That's why it's here. It's free, and it's for people to discuss what they want to discuss related to the team. Jebus

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    It’s a stupid argument to say we should have won x more games. Every season, every team will think they should have won more than they did. On the flip side, there are always games we win that we should have lost. But no one remembers those games. We had no business beating significantly better teams like Fresno St and Wisconsin this year. We overachieved in some games, and underachieved in others.
    And of course, you can't point this out and let him have a a valid argument. Beyond stupid. Mindless. cali-like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gophers_4life View Post
    G-D it gets annoying reading posts like these, and the one before it from the troll out in Arizona who thinks he owns GopherHole.

    No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to click on the thread. No one is forcing you to read any of the posts. No one is forcing you to add a reply to the thread.

    Shut. Up. Let folks use the board. That's why it's here. It's free, and it's for people to discuss what they want to discuss related to the team. Jebus
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Itís a stupid argument to say we should have won x more games. Every season, every team will think they should have won more than they did. On the flip side, there are always games we win that we should have lost. But no one remembers those games. We had no business beating significantly better teams like Fresno St and Wisconsin this year. We overachieved in some games, and underachieved in others.
    The legend of Fresno State grows larger with ever passing day. Good team. Played almost no one. Of the teams they played with a pulse - two of them - they lost to both of them. In fairness they did rebound and beat Boise the second time around.

    And before firing Smith, of our four final games Wisconsin looked like the best chance for a win due to injuries, and their weird season, so donít take that victory away from the Gophers.

    After our linebackers magically stopped being too (fill in the blank - slow, soft, small, big, not recruited by PJ Fleck, etc) after Robb Smith was fired we absolutely should have won that game and did. This was not the best Wisconsin team and was our best chance to end the streak. Iím surprised you would try to take that away from Fleck, honestly.

    PS, just answered the question you asked. If anything the team we had no business beating this year was Purdue. But we did. Thanks to brutal weather and a DC who didnít phone it in.

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