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    Quote Originally Posted by skauma View Post
    Reading through the thread, has me disappointed in a lot of Gopher fans. Still undermining what the Bison have accomplished. I can understand the hate that a lot of Bison fans have for the Gophers because of this. The Bison have routinely beat FBS teams in non-conference play, the result being teams (including the Gophers/BIG Ten) refusing to play them. They have won 7 of the last 8 championships at the collegiate level closest to FBS. The Bison are a legitimate college football team, so the sarcasm with putting "college football" in quotes from some of you, is ridiculous.
    or, ya know, that there is legitimately no benefit whatsoever to play and beat an FCS team (which is why I also hate that we scheduled St Dak St, absolutely stupid) from a public stance


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    Quote Originally Posted by skauma View Post
    The Bison are a legitimate college football team.
    In that sense, so is St. Thomas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skauma View Post
    Reading through the thread, has me disappointed in a lot of Gopher fans. Still undermining what the Bison have accomplished. I can understand the hate that a lot of Bison fans have for the Gophers because of this. The Bison have routinely beat FBS teams in non-conference play, the result being teams (including the Gophers/BIG Ten) refusing to play them. They have won 7 of the last 8 championships at the collegiate level closest to FBS. The Bison are a legitimate college football team, so the sarcasm with putting "college football" in quotes from some of you, is ridiculous.
    Good. Buck the Fison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skauma View Post
    Reading through the thread, has me disappointed in a lot of Gopher fans. Still undermining what the Bison have accomplished. I can understand the hate that a lot of Bison fans have for the Gophers because of this. The Bison have routinely beat FBS teams in non-conference play, the result being teams (including the Gophers/BIG Ten) refusing to play them. They have won 7 of the last 8 championships at the collegiate level closest to FBS. The Bison are a legitimate college football team, so the sarcasm with putting "college football" in quotes from some of you, is ridiculous.
    Some in their fan base are annoying. They think beating two Gopher teams that combined to go 4-20 under new coaches proves they would beat MN every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skauma View Post
    Klieman (NDSU's former head coach that won multiple championships) was making around $300K a year, so I'm guessing this Rutgers guy won't be making anywhere near what he made at Rutgers. Seems strange, but NDSU may be coming in with the pitch that NDSU coaches go on to bigger things, and much bigger pay days.
    Klieman's base at NDAC was around $325,000, and with performance bonuses I presume he made close to $500K this last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by skauma View Post
    Reading through the thread, has me disappointed in a lot of Gopher fans. Still undermining what the Bison have accomplished. I can understand the hate that a lot of Bison fans have for the Gophers because of this. The Bison have routinely beat FBS teams in non-conference play, the result being teams (including the Gophers/BIG Ten) refusing to play them. They have won 7 of the last 8 championships at the collegiate level closest to FBS. The Bison are a legitimate college football team, so the sarcasm with putting "college football" in quotes from some of you, is ridiculous.
    Oh boo hoo. Give me a break. People don't respect the JV. I realize that they're doing very well for their level - key words being "their level." Come play in the Big Ten and let's hear you crowing about your accomplishments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skauma View Post
    Klieman (NDSU's former head coach that won multiple championships) was making around $300K a year, so I'm guessing this Rutgers guy won't be making anywhere near what he made at Rutgers. Seems strange, but NDSU may be coming in with the pitch that NDSU coaches go on to bigger things, and much bigger pay days.
    He had a former coaching relationship with NDSU's new head coach (the former D-coord). They coached together both at Winona State and Western Illinois (same conf as NDSU). Guessing he reached out to him, and sold him on it. Even if it is a completely lower level (arguably two levels power than P5 college football), it is nice to win for a change, rather than going 7-29 in three seasons under Chris Ash. And/or perhaps he just prefers coaching at that lower level? It is perfectly reasonable, even if we don't understand it.

    Another crazy thought: maybe he's had his fill of "out east" folks, and just wants to get back to the midwest and closer to family? He's from Kansas, and played OL at Iowa (also where he started his coaching career).
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    Quote Originally Posted by upnorthkid View Post
    or, ya know, that there is legitimately no benefit whatsoever to play and beat an FCS team (which is why I also hate that we scheduled St Dak St, absolutely stupid) from a public stance
    As much as some may hate it ... this is absolutely correct, in my opinion. It would be one thing if there was an in-state, or especially one of the U of Minn campuses, that played FCS (DI-AA) football. Then at least our buy game would have the money staying in-state or completely within the U system.

    But there is just zero incentive to ever schedule a Dakota team, so long as they're in FCS. Nothing to gain, everything to lose. Give me Colorado State or Miami Ohio, every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpodoll68 View Post
    Oh boo hoo. Give me a break. People don't respect the JV. I realize that they're doing very well for their level - key words being "their level." Come play in the Big Ten and let's hear you crowing about your accomplishments.
    The reason they win at their level is that they have their pick of two star type players in the upper midwest/north central (whatever you want to call it) USA who don't get recruited by Big Ten or Big XII teams. And those players are simply a half-step better than most of the players around the nation at the FCS level. That's why they've won the last 7 of 8. There simply just is no competition in FCS anymore. Teams like Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, etc. have moved up to FBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skauma View Post
    Reading through the thread, has me disappointed in a lot of Gopher fans. Still undermining what the Bison have accomplished. I can understand the hate that a lot of Bison fans have for the Gophers because of this. The Bison have routinely beat FBS teams in non-conference play, the result being teams (including the Gophers/BIG Ten) refusing to play them. They have won 7 of the last 8 championships at the collegiate level closest to FBS. The Bison are a legitimate college football team, so the sarcasm with putting "college football" in quotes from some of you, is ridiculous.

    They're a legitimate FCS team. Most people don't care about FCS and they act as if their accomplishments at FCS level are same level as FBS

    My nephew goes there and for his sake I like to see them do well because he has fun. For trolls like Herd that think FCS is > than it actually is and beating a 3-9 gopher team is still relevant 7 years later is annoying. Gophers aren't scared of NDSU, there is no benefit to beating them and losing to them, which is obviously possible, is a huge negative

    I probably would root for NDSU since if their fan base wasn't so obnoxious
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpodoll68 View Post
    Klieman's base at NDAC was around $325,000, and with performance bonuses I presume he made close to $500K this last year.



    Oh boo hoo. Give me a break. People don't respect the JV. I realize that they're doing very well for their level - key words being "their level." Come play in the Big Ten and let's hear you crowing about your accomplishments.
    This!

    They win huge at their level because they are the best at their level with the best facilities, recruiting base, and money.

    They get to pound poor FCS programs all year then ramp up to play 1 FBS school in their "super bowl" while that opponent is barely paying attention because they have to play Ohio st or Oklahoma the following week. US beat the Russians in 80. Anything can happen once but to do it over 12 games vs B1G and FBS opponents...good bizon.

    They win alot at JV. Yeah. Good for them. Moving on

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    Another simple example of the difference is how many of the NDSU recruits would have dropped NDSU if they had a scholarships offer from ANY P5 school? 100%

    NDSU has a nice niche in their level of play. The upper Midwest produces several good athletes that are judged not quite good enough yet to get a get a P5 scholarship. But please stop inflating their stance in the world of college football. NDSU loses recruits when the kids get walk on offers from P5 schools.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alchemy2u View Post
    Another simple example of the difference is how many of the NDSU recruits would have dropped NDSU if they had a scholarships offer from ANY P5 school? 100%

    NDSU has a nice niche in their level of play. The upper Midwest produces several good athletes that are judged not quite good enough yet to get a get a P5 scholarship. But please stop inflating their stance in the world of college football. NDSU loses recruits when the kids get walk on offers from P5 schools.


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    I agree with many of your points. I think NDSU is a big fish/small pond situation and I really despise a certain section of their fanbase. But Noah Gindorff turned down PJ in the weeks leading up to the 2017 signing day and stuck with his NDSU commitment. Won't get into who was at fault or why, but it does happen sometimes.

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    This topic when it comes up:


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    Quote Originally Posted by alchemy2u View Post
    Another simple example of the difference is how many of the NDSU recruits would have dropped NDSU if they had a scholarships offer from ANY P5 school? 100%

    NDSU has a nice niche in their level of play. The upper Midwest produces several good athletes that are judged not quite good enough yet to get a get a P5 scholarship. But please stop inflating their stance in the world of college football. NDSU loses recruits when the kids get walk on offers from P5 schools.


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    I always love to respond to idiots that use extremes like "100%".

    https://247sports.com/Article/Kansas...rts-117202907/
    https://247sports.com/Player/Luke-Weerts-46052068/

    PS - haha
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