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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogee Oglethorpe View Post
    Depressing fact;

    NDSU has more OL in the NFL right now than the Gophers (Gophers do have two TE's in the league though!)
    Hopefully a trend we can reverse

    NDSU is a good program no doubt.


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    As far as moving from Rutgers to NDSU - it's his life. A heck of a lot of people would like to make 200 grand doing something they love - as opposed to grinding out a living doing a job that sucks the life out of you every day.

    I realize a lot of people see coaching as a progression - keep moving up the ladder every couple of years. But, there are exceptions to the rule. There are coaches who stay at the same job or the same level for years, because they love what they do and where they're doing it.

    if this guy is happy working with a friend, at a successful program that is adored by its fans, in an area where the cost of living is a lot more affordable, that sounds like a good life to me.

    just because you might make a different choice does not mean it would be a bad choice for someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highwayman View Post
    Funniest post of the day. Every point is hilarious! I can see why Fargo is called the new Broadway!
    What part of what I said would you like to debate? Winningest program this decade in college FB. NDSU runs a power running game where OL play is critical. Very few teams at any level play that style of football anymore. Most teams use spread concepts and rely on speed and finesse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herd View Post
    What part of what I said would you like to debate? Winningest program this decade in college FB. NDSU runs a power running game where OL play is critical. Very few teams at any level play that style of football anymore. Most teams use spread concepts and rely on speed and finesse.
    Not according to this. https://247sports.com/ContentGallery.../#119514737_10

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    I see it is only speculating about Gopher coaches sends folks on here into a tizzy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Herd View Post
    What part of what I said would you like to debate? Winningest program this decade in college FB. NDSU runs a power running game where OL play is critical. Very few teams at any level play that style of football anymore. Most teams use spread concepts and rely on speed and finesse.
    Yes, and my neighbor’s nephew’s friend’s uncle-in-law coached the best 8 year old flag football team in Perham last year. Maybe one of the Rutger’s coaches should see if he has an opening next year.

    You do realize that you have an inflated impression of NDSU, right? They are a good program for their level, but there is another whole level of football above them. It is like a fan of an AHL team going on an NHL team board and bragging about how great his AHL team is. Nobody cares. And this discussion is like an NHL assistant coach taking a pay cut and moving to a similar assistant job on an AHL team. Once you join the P5 club of coaches, you don’t leave unless it is a major step up in responsibility.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoofin View Post
    I see it is only speculating about Gopher coaches sends folks on here into a tizzy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alchemy2u View Post
    Yea, and in about 5 years he might get offered an assistant job at a P5 school, maybe something like the OL coach at Rutgers! Stupid career move.
    Trading NYC metro for Fargo???? Are you kidding me? Maybe to be HC but anything else, never!

    Also if you are working near Rutgers, you do not have to pay Manhattan or Westchester Co prices. 30 miles west of Rutgers is cheaper and borderline rural. Or you can get an elite urban condo in Jersey not that far from NYC or Rutgers. Newark and Jersey City are way better than in the past.

    I used to fly into Newark and spend a week or two at a time working at a company outpost in Roseland NJ, not that far inland. The area was full of golf courses and very green tree canopied, lush, "elite" place. The locals I worked with mostly lived in houses they owen to the west in small towns that sounded a lot like Buffalo or Hastings MN based on the their descriptions. I'd live there again in a second for the long term if I had the right job. My boss at the time actually lived in PA, but drove to Roseland almost daily and it was not much worse than a commute from Chaska to Saint Paul, or Woodbury to Maple Grove.
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    [QUOTE=oak_street1981;1671510]Trading NYC metro for Fargo???? Are you kidding me? Maybe to be HC but anything else, never!

    Also if you are working near Rutgers, you do not have to pay Manhattan or Westchester Co prices. 30 miles west of Rutgers is cheaper and borderline rural. Or you can get an elite urban condo in Jersey not that far from NYC or Rutgers. Newark and Jersey City are way better than in the past.

    I used to fly into Newark and spend a week or two at a time working at a company outpost in Roseland NJ, not that far inland it it was a tree covered, lush, "elite" place. I'd live there again in a second for the long term if I had the right job.[/QUOT

    Has anyone considered that he was asked to move?

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    [QUOTE=Pete smith;1671511]
    Quote Originally Posted by oak_street1981 View Post
    Trading NYC metro for Fargo???? Are you kidding me? Maybe to be HC but anything else, never!

    Also if you are working near Rutgers, you do not have to pay Manhattan or Westchester Co prices. 30 miles west of Rutgers is cheaper and borderline rural. Or you can get an elite urban condo in Jersey not that far from NYC or Rutgers. Newark and Jersey City are way better than in the past.

    I used to fly into Newark and spend a week or two at a time working at a company outpost in Roseland NJ, not that far inland it it was a tree covered, lush, "elite" place. I'd live there again in a second for the long term if I had the right job.[/QUOT

    Has anyone considered that he was asked to move?
    That is a good point, and if he really hated working for Ash and is friendly with Entz this move makes more sense. I let my lingering desire to live near NYC )for a while at least) and appreciation for New Jersey get in the way of that realization.

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    I can't understand how this thread made it to page 3.

    Puzzling.

    Title could have been "Man escapes firing by seeking refuge in frozen, windy, barren, ice cemetary."
    Go Gophers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face The Facts View Post
    I can't understand how this thread made it to page 3.

    Puzzling.

    Title could have been "Man escapes firing by seeking refuge in frozen, windy, barren, ice cemetary."
    Come now. You know full well that if the title was "Rutgers losing o-line coach to Louisville", there would've been 3 posts in the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face The Facts View Post
    I can't understand how this thread made it to page 3.

    Puzzling.

    Title could have been "Man escapes firing by seeking refuge in frozen, windy, barren, ice cemetary."
    It is the shock value. No one intentionally moves to North Dakota, especially if you leave a better job and take a pay cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alchemy2u View Post
    This is strange. I know that a coach may want to work with an old friend, but NDSU can't be paying their assistant coaches north of $350K. Plus moving from an asst head coaching job at a P5 school to move to JV?
    Klieman (NDSU's former head coach that won multiple championships) was making around $300K a year, so I'm guessing this Rutgers guy won't be making anywhere near what he made at Rutgers. Seems strange, but NDSU may be coming in with the pitch that NDSU coaches go on to bigger things, and much bigger pay days.

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    Reading through the thread, has me disappointed in a lot of Gopher fans. Still undermining what the Bison have accomplished. I can understand the hate that a lot of Bison fans have for the Gophers because of this. The Bison have routinely beat FBS teams in non-conference play, the result being teams (including the Gophers/BIG Ten) refusing to play them. They have won 7 of the last 8 championships at the collegiate level closest to FBS. The Bison are a legitimate college football team, so the sarcasm with putting "college football" in quotes from some of you, is ridiculous.

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