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  1. #16
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    Why are we always in the middle east:
    1. Oil
    2. Israel
    3. military bases to support the 2 above.

    Wash, Rinse, repeat if necessary! lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by march madness View Post
    Why are we always in the middle east:
    1. Oil
    2. Israel
    3. military bases to support the 2 above.

    Wash, Rinse, repeat if necessary! lol
    Yep. Especially pertaining to #1, it seems RW media falsely perpetrated the notion that as long as we expanded our oil production here, that we could free ourselves of Middle Eastern oil. Well, we greatly expanded our oil output, and yet we are still extremely dependent on ME oil. Turns out that yes, we are just a drop in the bucket of the world oil market, as the non-RW media has been pointing out for decades; and ramping up our oil output hasn't been the panacea were were promised by RW media and politicians. Just another laughable RW lie to add to the extremely long list.
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    Ultimately, in my opinion, the posturing being done is all about securing the sovereignty of Israel as a nation.
    The Russians are notoriously anti-semetic. The Russian Orthodox Church is in bed with Putin and would love to have power in Palestine.
    Shiite Muslims want to annihilate Jews from the planet to secure a Muslim world according to their Hadith (way).
    Sunni Muslims want to annihilate Jews from the planet to secure their own Muslim world according to their Hadith (way), which is in conflict with the Shiite Hadith.
    The US has been encouraged to prop up Israel via very influential Jewish lobby groups so that political party money keeps flowing and the defense department can justify spending.
    Israel has its own "way" that it views as legitimate over Islam by virtue of historical timeline. None of these groups are willing to back down, no matter the amount of bloodshed. In fact, blood fuels the fire.
    Question: Does the US pull itself from the region and watch Israel burn to ashes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    Everyone who freaked out about the Syrian pullout must be really relieved and cheering this news I assume.
    Yes, I'm relieved that military decisions are being made in a reasoned, measured manner, as opposed to announcing out of nowhere that everyone was coming home in 30 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justthefacts View Post
    Yes, I'm relieved that military decisions are being made in a reasoned, measured manner, as opposed to announcing out of nowhere that everyone was coming home in 30 days.
    Will you be relieved when they dont actually pull out? Which is my fear.

    Another fake chemical attack or other false flag will keep them there.

    Prediction: They are not leaving. Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justthefacts View Post
    Yes, I'm relieved that military decisions are being made in a reasoned, measured manner, as opposed to announcing out of nowhere that everyone was coming home in 30 days.
    Chickenhawk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diehard View Post
    Chickenhawk.
    So, can I infer from this, that you think Trump is making a mistake by not withdrawing quickly? Do you have it in yourself to admit that Dear Leader is, in fact, fallible?

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    You can infer nothing. You are a misinformed idiot. Sorry I am in your head, but there should be something in there. What I conveyed is you are a warmongering chickenhawk who has been no value to your country, state, or community. A true loser with a bigly stupid mouth.
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    The quagmire is getting deeper. Iraq, Afgahnistan, and Syria. In the immortal words of Colin Powell to GW Bush: "If you break it, you own it."


    Turkey’s president snubs John Bolton over Syria

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan abruptly canceled his planned meeting with National Security Adviser John Bolton on Tuesday, a major embarrassment for the US that further complicates the Trump administration’s shambolic Syria withdrawal rollout.

    What’s worse, this diplomatic skirmish happened solely because of something Bolton said.

    In Israel on Sunday, Bolton told reporters that President Donald Trump’s withdrawal of US troops from Syria wouldn’t happen until certain conditions are met. The condition that most angered Erdogan was Bolton’s insistence that America’s 2,000 troops would stay in Northern Syria until Turkey promised not to attack Kurdish fighters.

    Turkey considers Kurds near its border a serious terrorist threat and has plans to remove them by launching an all-out military assault. That led Erdogan to scrap the Bolton meeting at the last minute, after Trump’s top aide had already arrived in Turkey’s capital, Ankara.

    Erdogan explained why he took such a brazen action in front of his country’s parliament on Tuesday. “It is not possible for us to swallow the message Bolton gave from Israel,” he said. He said that Turkey doesn’t plan to kill anyone — including the Kurds — but then promptly added an important caveat: “The only exception is terrorist organizations and terrorists.”

    Read more at: https://www.vox.com/2019/1/8/1817367...ia-trump-troop
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    Quote Originally Posted by diehard View Post
    You can infer nothing. You are a misinformed idiot. Sorry I am in your head, but there should be something in there. What I conveyed is you are a warmongering chickenhawk who has been no value to your country, state, or community. A true loser with a bigly stupid mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruze View Post
    The quagmire is getting deeper. Iraq, Afgahnistan, and Syria. In the immortal words of Colin Powell to GW Bush: "If you break it, you own it."


    Turkey’s president snubs John Bolton over Syria

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan abruptly canceled his planned meeting with National Security Adviser John Bolton on Tuesday, a major embarrassment for the US that further complicates the Trump administration’s shambolic Syria withdrawal rollout.

    What’s worse, this diplomatic skirmish happened solely because of something Bolton said.

    In Israel on Sunday, Bolton told reporters that President Donald Trump’s withdrawal of US troops from Syria wouldn’t happen until certain conditions are met. The condition that most angered Erdogan was Bolton’s insistence that America’s 2,000 troops would stay in Northern Syria until Turkey promised not to attack Kurdish fighters.

    Turkey considers Kurds near its border a serious terrorist threat and has plans to remove them by launching an all-out military assault. That led Erdogan to scrap the Bolton meeting at the last minute, after Trump’s top aide had already arrived in Turkey’s capital, Ankara.

    Erdogan explained why he took such a brazen action in front of his country’s parliament on Tuesday. “It is not possible for us to swallow the message Bolton gave from Israel,” he said. He said that Turkey doesn’t plan to kill anyone — including the Kurds — but then promptly added an important caveat: “The only exception is terrorist organizations and terrorists.”

    Read more at: https://www.vox.com/2019/1/8/1817367...ia-trump-troop
    If the UN had any value, Kurdistan would have recognised as a sovereign nation decades a go. That mostly effects Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran. All of which hate the Kurds. Trump should get on this. As far as troops on the ground in Syria and Iraq, that should be Arab Muslim militaries. We have no need to be there.
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    Great news!

    “Nothing has changed,” one defense official said. “We don’t take orders from Bolton.”

    On Friday, a U.S. military spokesman confirmed that the withdrawal process was under way, but wouldn’t discuss specifics out of security concerns. A statement by Col. Sean Ryan, with the U.S.-led coalition against Islamic State, said the military “has begun the process of our deliberate withdrawal from Syria.”


    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-mil...ty-11547156824

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyJamesMD View Post
    Great news!

    “Nothing has changed,” one defense official said. “We don’t take orders from Bolton.”

    On Friday, a U.S. military spokesman confirmed that the withdrawal process was under way, but wouldn’t discuss specifics out of security concerns. A statement by Col. Sean Ryan, with the U.S.-led coalition against Islamic State, said the military “has begun the process of our deliberate withdrawal from Syria.


    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-mil...ty-11547156824
    Great news!
    Who hates iowa?

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    Those Kurdish commanders say the darndest things. Glad he is following Trump on twitter. Without NBC having Richard Engel to cover the Kurdish frontline commanders how would we ever know the real truth?
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