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    Quote Originally Posted by ethomasp31 View Post
    If Alabama blows out Clemson, why even have a playoff at all? We could just give them the title after the regular season. The reason for having a playoff of more than 4 teams is because at every level of football...professional, college and high school there is a playoff to crown the champion. Why is the FBS the only one different? It's especially disappointing when you probably only had two of the top four teams in the playoff this year.
    Agreed, it would have been nice to see Texas and Ohio State.


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    Here is the Mike Leach video.


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    Washington deserved a shot too. As others have said, as soon as a #1 ranked team wins a tournament, I guess all future tournaments should be cancelled and the trophy awarded to the future top ranked team. Every other sport (including football at every other level) has a tournament. The simple eternal problem for D1 football is the bowls and the way they grew up within the sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pompous Elitist View Post
    Georgia was just trounced by Texas. Stating they’d be big betting favorites over Notre Dame is both unknowable and irrelevant. I couldn’t care less what Vegas and their computer models suggest. There are a lot of factors at play.

    College football desperately needs an expanded playoff.
    You don't honestly think Georgia was playing at full motivation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethomasp31 View Post
    Here is the Mike Leach video.

    Any man that quotes Huckleberry Finn is OK in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis View Post
    You don't honestly think Georgia was playing at full motivation.
    They seemed kinda down to me actually.... but I think it can be hard in bowl games to get a team who had a long break and now is in an odd place after the holidays to get going.

    I think that happens a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethomasp31 View Post
    If Alabama blows out Clemson, why even have a playoff at all? We could just give them the title after the regular season. The reason for having a playoff of more than 4 teams is because at every level of football...professional, college and high school there is a playoff to crown the champion. Why is the FBS the only one different? It's especially disappointing when you probably only had two of the top four teams in the playoff this year.
    I'd be totally fine going back to the they way it was prior to BCS with conferences tied into NYD Bowls and then having the AP and whomever else vote on their champion. It was unique and I liked it. New Year's Day always meant something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie View Post
    Well if the predictions were right, why bother with a playoff at all?

    So stupid...
    Bingo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis View Post
    You don't honestly think Georgia was playing at full motivation.
    Why wouldn’t they be? They had plenty of time to cry it out after getting smoked in the game vs Alabama. Texas clearly had equal talent and played better. End of story. They lost by 20 points to LSU after all. It’s not like they were undefeated. What was the argument to put them on the CFP?

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    You expand the playoff to . . .

    1) Give more teams an opportunity to compete for the title. (I did not say win)
    2) Give more conferences an opportunity to compete for the title (I did not say win)
    3) provide some form of benefit to all teams and conferences to better balance national recruiting
    4) Make it so the top recruits can goto multiple teams and conference to seek a national title, not just Alabama and Clemson
    5) Lift all conferences, including G5 conferences.

    Whoever is suggesting that the data is in and not expanding the playoff is best for college football? Well, that guy is an idiot.
    Last edited by Herd; 01-02-2019 at 02:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ope3 View Post
    I'd be totally fine going back to the they way it was prior to BCS with conferences tied into NYD Bowls and then having the AP and whomever else vote on their champion. It was unique and I liked it. New Year's Day always meant something.
    How did it mean anything more than it does now? Especially more than the Semi-final Saturday? The Ohio State-Washington game would have had the same meaning. Same thing with the Texas-Georgia, or any of the other Bowl games. If you happened to match up the top two teams in the Sugar Bowl, what would have happened if Notre Dame beat Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl. What about Central Florida? I think the old way we decided a champion is even worse than the 4 team playoff.
    Last edited by ethomasp31; 01-02-2019 at 02:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedGopher View Post
    per Ivan:

    As one one-sided semifinal bled into another Saturday, as 12 months of anticipation, fueled by three months of regular season, fell apart like a sand castle at high tide, all I could think was this:

    Thank goodness. Maybe this will quiet the talk of playoff expansion.

    The playoff semifinals fit in nicely with the rest of this December. If you judge the December bowls the way we judge most football seasons these days, you would fire the coach. The games stank. Average winning margin: 20 points. Of 27 bowls played going into Monday, only 10 had a one-score margin at any time during the fourth quarter. Things got better over the past two days, when nine of 11 games were decided by one score (eight points or fewer).

    As for the semifinals themselves, No. 3 Notre Dame, beset by injuries -- which can happen when a team plays an opponent with bigger/stronger/faster players -- fell apart in the final minute of the first half against No. 2 Clemson.

    No. 4 Oklahoma came out against No. 1 Alabama and played the worst first quarter in a big game since, well, Oklahoma played the BCS final 14 years ago. Those Sooners took a 7-0 lead against USC and trailed 38-10 at the half. The Trojans won 55-19.

    So it's crushing. We discovered that Alabama and Clemson, the consensus No. 1 and No. 2 to start the season, are every bit as good as predicted.

    Being right is no fun, is it?

    http://www.espn.com/college-football...-more-blowouts

    Go Gophers!!
    Concur as to expanding playoff, but there were some really good bowl games: Northwestern/Utah, Wash St/Iowa St, LSU/UCF, Ohio St/Wash, Georgia/TX among the best, plus Stanford/Pitt, Oregon/MSU,Kentucky/PSU, GA Southern/E Michigan, Okla St/MO, and both the Minnesota and Wisconsin runaways. Enjoyed all of them. We shouldn't want the playoff to be second season, or for a #8 team to get hot and win it all, despite its season performance. Eight teams would require four additional games, which would mean using up six bowls in all, killing the traditional regional ties. Save the bowls, keep playoff at four (actually the BCS got it right every year with its two and used the historic polls instead of a 13-person committee no better than the polls). Better yet, don't put the playoff games in bowls, either. Showcase them as nighttime separate events.

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    Maybe they’re right this year. Previous years look to be different though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis View Post
    You don't honestly think Georgia was playing at full motivation.
    This is a problem. If this is true, then that means that not making the playoff dramatically diminished the rest of the bowl games (even the previously top tier bowl games). Expanding the playoff would further diminish any remaining bowl games and the regular season. So, we'd have 8 or 12 teams in the playoff, taking up all the good bowl games, while everyone else does what? Our favorite team, the Gophers, would be doing what? College football would look very different than it does today, and even today the Rose Bowl is looked at as a consolation prize. It doesn't feel right to me. Maybe the concept will grow on me.

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    Of all the teams who should want an expanded playoff, Alabama is number one.

    If they are actually far and away better than everyone like the talking heads say, then an expanded playoff would require an even larger fluke to keep them out.

    Alabama has 2 national titles without Conference titles in the past few years here.

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