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    Quote Originally Posted by Costa Rican Gopher View Post
    100%. Keenum's arm is weak, so he doesn't give you much downfield threat, but he's mobile & does a nice job running the offense. I can see wanting someone with a big arm who can take us to the next level, but what's the point if the OL sucks?
    Correct, this Viking team needs a mobile QB. This team is better with Case. Shore up the line and Cousins is the better QB for THAT team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Costa Rican Gopher View Post
    I was listening to KFAN the other morning & Corey Cove (who is like nails on a chalkboard to me) was droning on in his arrogant way, about how good Cousins is, how great his stats are, how people just don't get it, etc.

    I thought to myself, "This is why people over 30 y/o don't believe in analytics alone", because they don't tell the whole story. No, Cousins wasn't horrible, buy Cove referring to this as "One of the five best seasons a Vikings QB has ever had" made me shake my head in disbelief.
    Once Dubay and Morris left they have no knowledgeable sports guys on air.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportsfan24 View Post
    Once Dubay and Morris left they have no knowledgeable sports guys on air.


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    And yet they too, troll in GH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewert86PC View Post
    And yet they too, troll in GH.

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    They do? Who?


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    Never thought we'd get to the point of glorifying Case Keenum. No thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plausible Deniability View Post
    Never thought we'd get to the point of glorifying Case Keenum. No thanks
    Who is glorifying Case Keenum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportsfan24 View Post
    Correct, this Viking team needs a mobile QB. This team is better with Case. Shore up the line and Cousins is the better QB for THAT team.


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    I would say that any team would do well to have a mobile quarterback. There was a point in the Vikings/Bears game where it became obvious that Trubisky could run for a first down pretty much anytime he wanted to. At least a couple of those back-breaking 3rd down conversions were that.

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    Jim Bob Cooter and the Lions part ways. Both he and DeFilippo were well thought of and pursued in the off season. Amazing the difference several months makes. You start to wonder how these guys can do admirable work in one situation and go down with a thud at their next stop. I think it reflects on the head coach and organization, at least to some extent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Gopher View Post
    Jim Bob Cooter and the Lions part ways. Both he and DeFilippo were well thought of and pursued in the off season. Amazing the difference several months makes. You start to wonder how these guys can do admirable work in one situation and go down with a thud at their next stop. I think it reflects on the head coach and organization, at least to some extent.
    Itís easier for the Head Coach to offer up the new guy as the sacrificial lamb. Look at what happened to Wilks in Arizona. The GM (Steve Kiem) committed $20 million to Bradford, the GM hired the head coach, the GM was the one who got the DWI.....but itís only the head Coach who gets fired?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Gopher View Post
    I would say that any team would do well to have a mobile quarterback. There was a point in the Vikings/Bears game where it became obvious that Trubisky could run for a first down pretty much anytime he wanted to. At least a couple of those back-breaking 3rd down conversions were that.
    Zimmer is too busy micro managing. Hire good people and judge them on results not the process. He needs to leave his o-coord alone and focus on the defense that he is responsible for. Thatís where all the talent and money is, he should be held accountable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportsfan24 View Post
    It’s easier for the Head Coach to offer up the new guy as the sacrificial lamb. Look at what happened to Wilks in Arizona. The GM (Steve Kiem) committed $20 million to Bradford, the GM hired the head coach, the GM was the one who got the DWI.....but it’s only the head Coach who gets fired?
    I’m a Cardinals season ticket holder so I’ve been following this situation. Most people wanted Wilks and Keim both gone. Keim is still bathing in the glory of some really good seasons with Carson Palmer. I’m on the fence with him at this point; never thought they should have let the Honey Badger leave and go to Houston, or Calais Campbell leave for that matter. They gambled on a first rounder a few years ago on a guy with some off-field stuff (Nkemdiche on the Def line) who hasn’t panned out. This offseason will be HUGE for Keim. If they don’t nail the draft and make some good FA moves, Keim will be out.

    Wilks just never seemed to command the respect he should have. I was excited about the hire, thought he was just what they needed but he’s the least charismatic person I’ve ever seen as a HC and he just looked lost too much of the time. Hiring McCoy as his OC was a major mistake. They dumped him about halfway through the season in favor of Byron Leftwich, and I thougth Leftwich was a reallly good OC, really coming into his own. He’ll be a good one, either in AZ or somewhere else.

    Lastly, Bradford wouldn’t have been such a bad signing if they had a decent OL but they started the year with a bad OL and finished the year with (I think I heard) 7 OL on the disabled list. That’s tough duty for anyone to overcome.

    But they have the #1 overall pick!!! Bosa better be everything they think he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportsfan24 View Post
    Zimmer is too busy micro managing. Hire good people and judge them on results not the process. He needs to leave his o-coord alone and focus on the defense that he is responsible for. That’s where all the talent and money is, he should be held accountable.
    You think Zimmer messes with the Offense? Based on what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogee Oglethorpe View Post
    Iím a Cardinals season ticket holder so Iíve been following this situation. Most people wanted Wilks and Keim both gone. Keim is still bathing in the glory of some really good seasons with Carson Palmer. Iím on the fence with him at this point; never thought they should have let the Honey Badger leave and go to Houston, or Calais Campbell leave for that matter. They gambled on a first rounder a few years ago on a guy with some off-field stuff (Nkemdiche on the Def line) who hasnít panned out. This offseason will be HUGE for Keim. If they donít nail the draft and make some good FA moves, Keim will be out.

    Wilks just never seemed to command the respect he should have. I was excited about the hire, thought he was just what they needed but heís the least charismatic person Iíve ever seen as a HC and he just looked lost too much of the time. Hiring McCoy as his OC was a major mistake. They dumped him about halfway through the season in favor of Byron Leftwich, and I thougth Leftwich was a reallly good OC, really coming into his own. Heíll be a good one, either in AZ or somewhere else.

    Lastly, Bradford wouldnít have been such a bad signing if they had a decent OL but they started the year with a bad OL and finished the year with (I think I heard) 7 OL on the disabled list. Thatís tough duty for anyone to overcome.

    But they have the #1 overall pick!!! Bosa better be everything they think he is.
    Great info and points.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogee Oglethorpe View Post
    You think Zimmer messes with the Offense? Based on what?
    Norv Turner leaving mid-season, firing a coach who likes to pass for passing...midway in his first season...after dude moved his family.....after not improving the one thing that actually needed improving, the oline.


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    Souhan: Vikings didn't have much better option than signing Kirk Cousins

    After the 2017 season, the Vikings ditched the quarterback who led them to a 13-victory season and a playoff win in favor of a much more expensive quarterback who would win only eight games and miss the playoffs.

    So the Vikings blew it, right?

    Well, yes. It’s Rick Spielman’s job to acquire good players and win games, and the 2018 season turned into a disaster relative to expectations. By the last game, the new quarterback, Kirk Cousins, was publicly demonstrating his predilection for blame-sharing, grandiosely teaching routes to his Pro Bowl receiver on the sideline.

    Spielman, the Vikings’ general manager, signed Cousins to a three-year deal worth a guaranteed $84 million and can do little more than hope Cousins will miraculously improve as a leader and clutch performer over the next two seasons.

    Blaming Spielman for the signing and Cousins for his play and behavior is easy at this point.

    What’s difficult is figuring out what the Vikings should have done instead.

    Spielman had these choices after last season ended:

    A. Re-sign Case Keenum.

    B. Sign Cousins.

    C. Sign Teddy Bridgewater.

    D. Sign Sam Bradford.

    E. Acquire a quarterback who might perform similarly to Keenum but would not require the $36 million over two years Keenum received from Denver. The Browns got Tyrod Taylor for a third-round draft pick while he had one year remaining on his contract.

    F. Draft a quarterback and hope he could develop quickly.

    G. Sign Colin Kaepernick and accept the national attention that would arrive with him.

    http://www.startribune.com/vikings-d...ins/503775412/

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