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  1. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shades View Post
    Not seeing the point of comparing to Bueckers. She’s the #1 2020 prospect in the country, and high school competition is relatively easy. If there’s a need to compare, doing it with Staples (or maybe somebody with a comparable recruit ranking) probably makes the most sense.

    Should we compare how Stollings is doing to Whalen, because that also makes about as much sense.


    I’m curious if Utah ever offered Staples. I watched Utah beat Stanford today. They have a decent looking club. Oops.
    Comparison mostly for fun. Per your point, only semi-valid comparison would be Finau to Staples. So may be that Staples is a better get than Finau. Not intending to pick on Finau though. She obviously is being challenged by being thrown into a starting role on a team with more injuries than the Gophers. Through that she will improve. Staples too will improve as she gradually takes on a bigger role.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CutDownTheNet View Post
    Comparison mostly for fun. Per your point, only semi-valid comparison would be Finau to Staples. So may be that Staples is a better get than Finau. Not intending to pick on Finau though. She obviously is being challenged by being thrown into a starting role on a team with more injuries than the Gophers. Through that she will improve. Staples too will improve as she gradually takes on a bigger role.
    Actually, in Staples first four games (that she had any assists or turnovers) she had 3 assists and 8 turnovers for a .375 assist to turnover ratio. That's an even fairer comparison to Finau's .4 assist to turnover ratio in her first four games. So actually, they both had inauspicious starts as far as ball control and playmaking goes. By the time Finau has played as many games, she might be a similar caliber player to Staples.

    In subsequent games since those raw rooky days, Staples has gone 11 assists and 8 turnovers for a 1.375 assist to turnover ratio. That figure is ever-so-slightly better than Brunson and Bell's assist to turnover ratio statistics for the full season (1.359 and 1.367, respectively). Although all three of these stats are not particularly great (and thus at least partly to blame for some B1G losses), we posters are no longer justified to be griping about Staples ball control/playmaking, as she has (after forgiving her first few rookie games) reached the norm established by the starting point/shooting guards.

    By the way, Perez season (again, through Purdue game) assist to turnover ratio is 1.25, only slightly lower than the other three guards. What she brings to the table (besides her three-point shooting) is probably weighted toward her defensive skills.
    Last edited by CutDownTheNet; 01-28-2019 at 09:33 AM.

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    Tonight's Iowa at Michigan game has been postponed to tomorrow at 11:00 AM central time.

    Tonight's Penn State at Michigan State game has been postponed to 27 February.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignatius L Hoops View Post
    Tonight's Iowa at Michigan game has been postponed to tomorrow at 11:00 AM central time.

    Tonight's Penn State at Michigan State game has been postponed to 27 February.
    Were these games to be televised by BTN? The men played last night in frigid weather, but they were on BTN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EaganGopher22 View Post
    Were these games to be televised by BTN? The men played last night in frigid weather, but they were on BTN.
    The Iowa/Michigan game was supposed to be the first game on BTN. Iowa made it to Ann Arbor before the postponement.

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    Michigan (4-6) handily defeated Iowa (7-3), 90-81, this afternoon. The Michigan press helped keep the Hawkeyes at bay most of the way. Deja Church and Akienreh Johnson each scored 19 points leading the Wolverines while Megan Gustafson 27 and Kathleen Doyle, 22 points, led the Hawkeyes. Iowa's Stewart and Doyle (much to the delight of Michigan fans) fouled out.

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    Michigan State moves atop the chaos for now by beating Patberg-less Indiana 77-61. It's possible that 7 teams could be 7-7 after Thursday's games. That would take a few upsets though including Nebraska over Maryland.

    7-5 Michigan State
    7-6 Purdue
    7-6 Michigan
    7-6 Northwestern
    6-7 Ohio State
    6-7 Nebraska
    6-7 Indiana
    6-7 Minnesota

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    If only the Gophers had won the two games they clearly should have won -- Nebraska, Illinois -- they'd be sitting prettyish. Even with those losses, it's odd to see that the B1G is so nuts that they're only a game and a half out of a double-bye in the conference tournament. They have a bunch of tough games first, but that MSU game could loom large!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffle View Post
    Michigan State moves atop the chaos for now by beating Patberg-less Indiana 77-61. It's possible that 7 teams could be 7-7 after Thursday's games. That would take a few upsets though including Nebraska over Maryland.

    7-5 Michigan State
    7-6 Purdue
    7-6 Michigan
    7-6 Northwestern
    6-7 Ohio State
    6-7 Nebraska
    6-7 Indiana
    6-7 Minnesota
    That #4 seed in the tournament would be very helpful in winning it. With the double bye, they would only need to win three games to take the crown and move into the NCAA’s. Something to push for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatjanelpick View Post
    If only the Gophers had won the two games they clearly should have won -- Nebraska, Illinois -- they'd be sitting prettyish. Even with those losses, it's odd to see that the B1G is so nuts that they're only a game and a half out of a double-bye in the conference tournament. They have a bunch of tough games first, but that MSU game could loom large!
    That’s an extremely good point.

    If the Gophers had simply done due diligence on those two (very winnable and no-brainer winnable, respectively) games, we’d be at 8-5 instead of 6-7, and instead of being in the lower half of the pack, we’d be leading the pack. Not to mention that Nebraska would be a notch lower too.

    So we’d be behind Iowa and Maryland and ahead of the pack with those two hypothetical wins. All the difference in the world.

    Basically, injuries plus lack of meaningful bench, plus Bell turning it over in 4Q, plus generally too conservative play in 4Q, plus not hitting outside shots so that defenses could pack the paint with a zone, let Illinois discover a way to beat us. Then Nebraska and a whole host of a others were able to leverage the same things to beat us too.

    We might have lost to Iowa and the Michigans in any event, and Maryland is going to be tough to beat, but given the way the pack turned out to be structured (so middle-centric), it’s really only the Illinois and Nebraska losses that are looming large in their role of keeping us out of the NCAAs.

    Not that I’ve watched that closely, but I’ve never before seen the middle of the pack be this numerous and this tightly grouped, this close to the end of the season. When they say, “parity in the Big Ten,” they’re not kidding.

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    Yes, the double-bye is definitely something to shoot for now. With the Gophers' lack of depth, it is going to be very difficult for them to make a deep run in the BIG tourney with only 5 or 6 contributing players.

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    Looks like Wisconsin is going to be a good neighbor and knock off MSU tonight.

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    Big ten is getting alot more interesting. Rutgers is sliding now too and has 2 tough road games coming up in Michigan and Indiana.

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    Rutgers, in the middle of a slide, is a beatable team for the Gophers, even on the road. They put up only 39 points in a home loss to OSU tonight. MSU is certainly a beatable team for the Gophers in Williams Arena as the Spartans have not been good on the road in BIG play. I don't think the Gophers can beat Maryland on the road, but stranger things have happened. Either way, 3 of 4 wins to finish the BIG regular season would be great and could put them on the bubble heading into the BIG tourney. Again, the non-conference schedule would still be the achilles heel, but 3 of 4 wins would get the Gophers in the conversation.

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    After Thursday's games:

    Wednesday, March 6
    #12 Penn State (3-10) vs #13 Wisconsin (3-10) - 12:30 BTN
    #11 Nebraska (6-8) vs (14) Illinois (2-12) - 3:00 BTN

    Thursday, March 7
    #8 Ohio State (7-7) vs #9 Minnesota (7-7) - 11:00 BTN
    #5 Northwestern (8-6) vs PSU/WISC - 1:30 BTN
    #7 Purdue (7-7) vs #10 Indiana (6-8) - 5:30 BTN
    #6 Michigan State (7-6) vs NEB/ILL - 8:00 BTN

    Friday, March 8
    #1 Maryland (12-2) vs OSU/MINN - 11:00 BTN
    #4 Michigan (8-6) vs NW/PSU/WISC - 1:30 BTN
    #2 Iowa (11-3) vs PUR/IND - 5:30 BTN
    #3 Rutgers (9-4) vs MSU/NEB/ILL - 8:00 BTN


    Tiebreakers:
    8-6: Michigan 1-0 vs. Northwestern
    7-7: Purdue 2-1, Ohio State 1-1, Minnesota 1-2
    6-8: Indiana 1-0 vs. Nebraska
    3-10: Penn State 2-0 vs. Wisconsin

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