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  1. #181

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Söze View Post
    You quoted me saying that rankings aren't perfect, but then proceeded to respond as if I said they are.

    I know this is a different sport, but I think this article illustrates that rankings are pretty reliable:
    https://247sports.com/Article/NFL-Dr...nd--117819292/

    If you don't feel like reading it, the relevant part says that roughly 57.6% of 5-stars get drafted, 23.6% of 4-stars, 6.9% of 3-stars, and 1.1% of 2-stars. If rankings weren't reliable at all, those percentages would be much closer to being even, but they aren't.
    Thanks for this info. Seems pretty clear as a general rule that the rankings matter, even though there obviously are exceptions.


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  2. #182

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bordergopher View Post
    Thanks for this info. Seems pretty clear as a general rule that the rankings matter, even though there obviously are exceptions.


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    Of course for a fan they are more accurate but coaches do not recruit off of a list. They scout and evaluate on who fits and can help programs. Those top 10 are easy. next 25 pretty easy. and so on. I can lay out where the UW classes ranked fortheir final 4 teams, conference champion teams, Villanova or years, UVA for years. Non blue blood programs get few top 50 kids and build on identifying intangible skills. Some big time programs have starters not even ranked. Your not going to recruit like a top 10 program so you look to win another way. 4 year and 5 year players that are men and always improving. Great eye from the staff is critical and then top shelf coaching. Then recruiting gets better with wing and young players gain faith that they will be coached really well.

  3. #183

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    Quote Originally Posted by builtbadgers View Post
    Eric Bossi is respected by coaches for his opinion and he likes this recruit. Most of the internet scouts are hacks and just raise and lower rankings based on what coaches have offered. A name who coaches actually pay is THE GODFATHER OF SCOUTING , Tom Konchalski and he is not online, he is independent and his stuff sells for about 475.00 seperate from a individual evaluation. Rankings are for fans. Anyone can rank the the top 10. Real recruiting is finding guys like Murphy and Gabe. Non blue blood schools win big with these finds.
    Correct! Fans think these ranking hacks know everything about every player, what a joke.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakers612 View Post
    I agree that Gabe looks to have been a steal. He might be one of the best 15 freshman in the country. As far as Murphy, he got offers from good programs, including Shaka Smart’s VCU (granted, Smart didn’t bring him to Texas with him). I would still call Murphy a diamond in the rough considering some college b-ball analysts had him as a pre-season third team all American, which no one projected. Overall, I think it’s hard to compare recruite like this.

    I was really disenchanted with the Tre Williams signing. I saw a 300-something ranked player with no big time offers. But I’m also a big Pitino fan and am not totally shocked that Williams shot up the board. Pitino made Nate Mason and Jordan Murphy all-Big10 caliber players. I think he can make Williams a solid contributor day 1...

    It’s funny how we kind of lack guard depth this year, but next year we will be stacked. Washington, Carr, Willis, Williams, Gabe K., and even Coffey (if you want to call him a guard). Will be interesting to see how’s it plays out. I’ve read Willis is a PG but Marcus Fuller calls him a combo guard so maybe this depth chart will work:

    Washington/Carr
    Gabe K./Willis
    Coffey/Williams
    At the level that Pitino wants to compete, he is not going to offer anybody to be a roster filler! He has gotten burned in the past reaching for players he hoped would develop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alchemy2u View Post
    Correct! Fans think these ranking hacks know everything about every player, what a joke.


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    No.

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    Go Gophers!!

  7. #187

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    I just saw that Marvin Williams Jr (Tre's dad) reply to a tweet congratulating Jalen Suggs for his contributions to the Team USA U17 Gold medal team with "Great job Jalen!!! Tre will be waiting to play with you at Minnesota! Go Gophers!!!" I like the excitement from this family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaqfu14 View Post
    I just saw that Marvin Williams Jr (Tre's dad) reply to a tweet congratulating Jalen Suggs for his contributions to the Team USA U17 Gold medal team with "Great job Jalen!!! Tre will be waiting to play with you at Minnesota! Go Gophers!!!" I like the excitement from this family.
    His mom is a U alumnae, I think from the east side of St. Paul. Not sure where dad is from, but one has to like the enthusiasm.

  9. #189

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    Suggs and Williams are related.

  10. #190

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    Quote Originally Posted by whalenfan View Post
    Suggs and Williams are related.
    That would be sweet for them to play together at the U.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaqfu14 View Post
    I just saw that Marvin Williams Jr (Tre's dad) reply to a tweet congratulating Jalen Suggs for his contributions to the Team USA U17 Gold medal team with "Great job Jalen!!! Tre will be waiting to play with you at Minnesota! Go Gophers!!!" I like the excitement from this family.
    Nice!

  12. #192

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    Williams looks pretty darn nifty from the footage I have seen. I really like the fact he's scoring with both hands around the basket. Seems to be comfortable with the ball and has plenty of athleticism.

    Looking forward to his arriving at The U.

  13. #193

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    Look forward to seeing him play for the U!

    Welcome to the Gophers!

  14. #194

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    Updated prep hoops rankings using self proclaimed prep hoops genius Ryan James still has him in the 330 range.....

  15. #195

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    per Shama:

    The Gophers’ lone men’s basketball commit so far for their class of 2019 is Marvin “Tre'” Williams III. The 6-5 guard from Dallas is currently enrolled at Wasatch Academy in Utah in 2019. Minnesota coach Richard Pitino is likely to expect immediate help from Williams, whose mother Kelly is from St. Paul and played basketball at Harding High School.

    http://shamasportsheadliners.com/

    Go Gophers!!

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