2nd Annual "5-7 Bowl Game Watch List"

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There are 40 Bowl games, for 78 at large bids (CFP Championship Game is the exception).

Bowl eligible: 32 teams
Alabama
UCF
South Florida
Clemson
Michigan
Ohio St.
Notre Dame
Buffalo
LSU
Ga. Southern
Cincinnati
Houston
Boston College
Iowa
Texas
West Virginia
Oklahoma
UAB
Louisiana Tech
North Texas
W. Michigan
Utah St.
Fresno St.
San Diego St.
Hawaii
Washington
Washington St.
Utah
Kentucky
Georgia
Florida
Troy



One game away from Bowl Eligible: 21 teams
Temple
NC State
Syracuse
Virginia
Miami (Fla.)
Duke
Penn St.
Wisconsin
Texas Tech
FIU
Marshall
Army
Ohio
Boise St.
Stanford
Oregon
Colorado
Texas A&M
Auburn
Ole Miss
App. St.



That leaves 25 spots open.


4 wins (26 teams)
Memphis
Florida St.
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech
Michigan St.
Maryland
Indiana
Northwestern
Purdue
Minnesota
Baylor
Oklahoma St.
Middle Tenn.
Liberty
BYU
N. Illinois
Toledo
E. Michigan
Nevada
California
USC
Missouri
Miss. State
Coastal Carolina
UL-Monroe
Arkansas St.

3 win teams
SMU 3 4
Wake Forest 3 4
Pittsburgh 3 4
Illinois 3 4
Iowa St. 3 3
Kansas St. 3 4
TCU 3 4
Charlotte 3 4
FAU 3 5
So. Miss 3 3
UT-San Antonio 3 5
Miami (Ohio) 3 5
Akron 3 3
Ball St. 3 6
Colorado St. 3 6
New Mexico 3 4
Air Force 3 4
Wyoming 3 6
Arizona 3 5
Arizona St. 3 4
South Carolina 3 3
Tennessee 3 4
Vanderbilt 3 5
Louisiana 3 4
 

How the hell many bowl games are there now? Last time I counted (a few years ago), there was something like 32. Are we really up to 39?

Remember the fun times when college presidents refused to look at a playoff system because it would lead to too many games for our fragile student athletes? Then we added another game to the season. Then we added another game for every team that doesn't have a losing record.

I wish college football would un**** itself.

JTG
 

rockford said:
How the hell many bowl games are there now? Last time I counted (a few years ago), there was something like 32. Are we really up to 39?

Remember the fun times when college presidents refused to look at a playoff system because it would lead to too many games for our fragile student athletes? Then we added another game to the season. Then we added another game for every team that doesn't have a losing record.

I wish college football would un**** itself.

JTG
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I think we've been at 40 for a few years. Watching a Bowl Game will also beat visiting with the in-laws over the holidays.
I have no problem with Bowl Games.
 

Face The Facts said:
I think we've been at 40 for a few years. Watching a Bowl Game will also beat visiting with the in-laws over the holidays.
I have no problem with Bowl Games.
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Totally agree!
No such thing as too much college football.
For those who say there are too many bowl games, the simple solution is for them to not watch them all.
 

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Face The Facts said:
I think we've been at 40 for a few years. Watching a Bowl Game will also beat visiting with the in-laws over the holidays.
I have no problem with Bowl Games.
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I have no problem with bowl games, per se. I just wish they were organized around a more robust playoff system, say involving 8-12 teams instead of 4.

JTG
 

rockford said:
I have no problem with bowl games, per se. I just wish they were organized around a more robust playoff system, say involving 8-12 teams instead of 4.

JTG
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Yes.
Of course.

Until the playoff system is improved, I'll watch Bowl games for 30 nights straight.
 

Go Gophers Rah said:
Totally agree!
No such thing as too much college football.
For those who say there are too many bowl games, the simple solution is for them to not watch them all.
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Don't disagree with that. I just hate that we give bonuses to people for making the bowl game, and then still act like it's an accomplishment as we lower the bar .
 

I'm hoping we win out though and tie for third at 5-4 in conference.
 



I read something a few days ago that seemed to indicate that they expect 4 5-7 teams to go to bowls. If we take care of business next week against Illinois we just may be OK I'd much rather qualify strait up. We'll have three games to get it done all three teams are beatable it'll depend on which gophers team shows up.
 

Updated 10/28:

Bowl Eligible - 38
Team W L
1 Clemson 8 0
2 Notre Dame 8 0
3 Alabama 8 0
4 UCF 7 0
5 Cincinnati 7 1
6 South Florida 7 1
7 Houston 7 1
8 Michigan 7 1
9 Ohio St. 7 1
10 Oklahoma 7 1
11 UAB 7 1
12 North Texas 7 2
13 Buffalo 7 1
14 Utah St. 7 1
15 Fresno St. 7 1
16 Washington St. 7 1
17 Georgia 7 1
18 Kentucky 7 1
19 LSU 7 1
20 Ga. Southern 7 1
21 Boston College 6 2
22 Syracuse 6 2
23 Virginia 6 2
24 Penn St. 6 2
25 Iowa 6 2
26 West Virginia 6 1
27 Texas 6 2
28 FIU 6 2
29 Louisiana Tech 6 2
30 Army 6 2
31 W. Michigan 6 3
32 Boise St. 6 2
33 San Diego St. 6 2
34 Hawaii 6 4
35 Washington 6 3
36 Utah 6 2
37 Florida 6 2
38 Troy 6 2

5 win teams
39 Temple 5 3
40 NC State 5 2
41 Miami (Fla.) 5 3
42 Duke 5 3
43 Michigan St. 5 3
44 Maryland 5 3
45 Northwestern 5 3
46 Wisconsin 5 3
47 Texas Tech 5 3
48 Oklahoma St. 5 3
49 Middle Tenn. 5 3
50 Marshall 5 2
51 Ohio 5 3
52 N. Illinois 5 3
53 Nevada 5 4
54 Stanford 5 3
55 Oregon 5 3
56 California 5 3
57 Colorado 5 3
58 Texas A&M 5 3
59 Miss. State 5 3
60 Auburn 5 3
61 Ole Miss 5 3
62 App. St. 5 2
63 Coastal Carolina 5 3

4 win teams
64 Memphis 4 4
65 Florida St. 4 4
66 Wake Forest 4 4
67 Virginia Tech 4 3
68 Pittsburgh 4 4
69 Georgia Tech 4 4
70 Indiana 4 5
71 Purdue 4 4
72 Minnesota 4 4
73 Iowa St. 4 3
74 Baylor 4 4
75 Charlotte 4 4
76 Liberty 4 3
77 BYU 4 4
78 Akron 4 3
79 Toledo 4 4
80 E. Michigan 4 5
81 USC 4 4
82 Arizona 4 5
83 Arizona St. 4 4
84 South Carolina 4 3
85 Vanderbilt 4 5
86 Missouri 4 4
87 Louisiana 4 4
88 UL-Monroe 4 4
89 Arkansas St. 4 4
 

It's hard to believe that PJ and Robb Smith coached this team to a victory against potentially the best G5 team in the country.
 

Gophers7NatTitlesBadgers0 said:
It's hard to believe that PJ and Robb Smith coached this team to a victory against potentially the best G5 team in the country.
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Keep in mind we had Winfield in that game. Made a big difference.
Not that we are using injuries as an excuse. But it's still a fact.
 



Face The Facts said:
I think we've been at 40 for a few years. Watching a Bowl Game will also beat visiting with the in-laws over the holidays.
I have no problem with Bowl Games.
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Actually 39 last year. One of those bowl games is not an FBS game. It's a bowl featuring teams winning the two conferences made up of predominately historically black colleges. Those are FCS teams.

No five win teams made bowls last year and I'm not counting on any making them this year. There was one more FBS bowl in 2015 (the year we went with a 5-7 record). In fact, one or two teams with 6 wins did not get a bowl invite last year.
 
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Gophers7NatTitlesBadgers0 said:
It's hard to believe that PJ and Robb Smith coached this team to a victory against potentially the best G5 team in the country.
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Why? It was at home, Winfield played, ZA was healthy, Shenault was healthy, OJ Smith was healthy. All those factors make a big difference.

In college football, when and where you play a team makes a huge difference. Motivation levels can vary greatly. Look at U of A vs Oregon. Purdue vs OSU, etc etc


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bleedsmaroonandgold said:
Don't disagree with that. I just hate that we give bonuses to people for making the bowl game, and then still act like it's an accomplishment as we lower the bar .
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BFD.... they have had consultation brackets, wrestle backs and seventh place ribbons for ever. Just because you didn’t win the National Championship or an Olympic gold medal doesn’t mean that you are a failure or didn’t accomplish something.
The bowl games are designed to make money, not reward teams. If your team happens to be chosen for a bowl game then they earned the right to play based upon their performance during the season (selection is based upon a bell curve, top so many make it). If you don’t think the team’s performance warrants playing, then don’t watch! Of course it is not the team’s ultimate goal, but it is a reward for the players and allows the coaches to have more practices. Plus the average U fan would father watch the U in a bowl than watch Southwestern Louisiana Appliance College vs Nobody’s Cousins Tech in another meaningless bowl game.


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Other than the fact the CFP should be 8 teams, I'm fine with the college football bowl game system.

With 130 teams all competing for one title, being in the top 50% (similar to playoffs in most other sports) you deserve another game.

Maybe a couple too many, but not complaining.
 

On the Sports Huddle, Sid asked Fleck about the chance of going to a bowl game with 5 wins, and Fleck just cut him off. said all they're thinking about is the Illinois game.

Don't know if he was upset with the general principle of a 5-win bowl team, or the suggestion that the Gophers might only win 5 games. But Fleck did not seem very responsive to the idea.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
On the Sports Huddle, Sid asked Fleck about the chance of going to a bowl game with 5 wins, and Fleck just cut him off. said all they're thinking about is the Illinois game.

Don't know if he was upset with the general principle of a 5-win bowl team, or the suggestion that the Gophers might only win 5 games. But Fleck did not seem very responsive to the idea.
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I think it was from the standpoint that we're too many weeks away to worry about bowl games.
Also, last year at 5-7 it wasn't good enough, so not much to say yet.
Kind of odd they ask that question this early for those guys.

Does Dave Mona read Gopherhole?
 


Face The Facts said:
Keep in mind we had Winfield in that game. Made a big difference.
Not that we are using injuries as an excuse. But it's still a fact.
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Some Day...Maybe said:
Why? It was at home, Winfield played, ZA was healthy, Shenault was healthy, OJ Smith was healthy. All those factors make a big difference.

In college football, when and where you play a team makes a huge difference. Motivation levels can vary greatly. Look at U of A vs Oregon. Purdue vs OSU, etc etc


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I can't believe Winfield makes a 21+ point difference defensively as great as he is. Shenault is a fine player but not great. Schematically, the defense looks very different since Fresno. I believe if Smith continued to press the wideouts at the start of conference play, the defense wouldn't have looked so atrocious. Losing Winfield had a lot to do with that I'm sure, but it was clear since early in the Maryland game that the soft coverage was doomed to fail. But Smith continued to do what was failing for four games. I'm not saying we would have won any of those games, but they would have given the offense a chance imo.

I was happy to see more press coverage against Indiana though Ramsey's bad play helped a lot. They need to continue this approach the rest of the way. At this point, they have little to lose.
 

F you FtF.

A thread that she starts and then makes half the posts.
 

38 Teams with 6 wins.
Leaves 40 spots.
By projected overall wins, these are the teams fighting for bowl games.



Team W L Proj W
NC State 5 2 9.1
App State 5 2 8.7
Iowa State 4 3 8.0
Marshall 5 2 7.9
Miami (FL) 5 3 7.9

Miss State 5 3 7.7
Michigan St 5 3 7.6
Stanford 5 3 7.6
Texas A&M 5 3 7.6
Texas Tech 5 3 7.5

Wisconsin 5 3 7.4
Middle Tenn 5 3 7.4
Nevada 5 4 7.3
Oregon 5 3 7.3
Ohio 5 3 7.3

N Illinois 5 3 7.2
Toledo 4 4 7.2
Temple 5 3 7.1
Arkansas St 4 4 7.1
Northwestern 5 3 7.0

Duke 5 3 7.0
Memphis 4 4 6.8
Missouri 4 4 6.8
Auburn 5 3 6.7
Oklahoma St 5 3 6.5

Colorado 5 3 6.5
USC 4 4 6.5
Purdue 4 4 6.5
Coastal Car 5 3 6.4
California 5 3 6.4

E Michigan 4 5 6.4
LA Lafayette 4 4 6.4
Liberty 4 3 6.4
Mississippi 5 3 6.3
Maryland 5 3 6.2

Arizona St 4 4 6.1
BYU 4 4 6.0
GA Tech 4 4 5.9
S Carolina 4 3 5.9
VA Tech 4 3 5.9

------ Cut Off Line ----

Akron 4 3 5.7
Minnesota 4 4 5.7
Air Force 3 5 5.5
Vanderbilt 4 5 5.4
Pittsburgh 4 4 5.4
Arizona 4 5 5.3
TX Christian 3 5 5.3
Fla Atlantic 3 5 5.3
LA Monroe 4 4 5.2
Wake Forest 4 4 5.1
Baylor 4 4 5.0
Tulane 3 5 5.0
Florida St 4 4 4.9
Miami (OH) 3 5 4.9
Tennessee 3 5 4.9
Indiana 4 5 4.8
S Methodist 3 5 4.8
S Mississippi 3 4 4.7
Wyoming 3 6 4.7
Charlotte 4 4 4.6
 


There are 39 bowl games, including the 6 CFP bowls. As someone else noted, there is a "bowl" game that is just for historically black colleges at the FCS (I-AA) level.

Then the CFP championship game, which obviously doesn't add another 2 bowl teams, it just takes the two winning teams from two of the bowl games.


There used to be 40 bowl games, but the Poinsettia Bowl in San Diego shut down I think a couple years ago. And the NCAA has not allowed new bowl games to get approved.

I think the 5-7 teams making bowls was too unpopular, so they shut down applications for new bowl games. Now if cities like Austin, Little Rock, South Carolina Coastal area want to host a bowl, they need to convince an existing bowl to move.


I don't think we're going to see any 5-7 make it this year, which I believe they did not last year. With 78 spots and I believe 130 teams that are eligible to play, plus you're allowed to count one win against an FCS (I-AA) team towards bowl eligibility. Don't think it will happen ...
 

There were 10 bowl games that had an attendance of under 25,000, four with an attendance under 20,000, and 2 with an attendance under 15,000. I think a bowl game at US Bank Stadium could beat that.
 

RodentRampage said:
There were 10 bowl games that had an attendance of under 25,000, four with an attendance under 20,000, and 2 with an attendance under 15,000. I think a bowl game at US Bank Stadium could beat that.
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I would go every damn uear for sure.

I want a garbage bowl game up here.
 




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