I think you missed the 'more often than not' part of his point. Sure there are some but there are many others who need time
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I think you missed the 'more often than not' part of his point. Sure there are some but there are many others who need time
My thought isn't that Oturu is going to be great or anything. I'm thinking that our frontcourt is Murph/Curry against most teams. Murph is probably playing 32 mns a game again and Curry around 28 with about 8 of those at PF and 20 at C. If Oturo can give 15 mns a game that leaves 5 for Stockman. If Stockman is better than that then great but he doesn't have to do a ton. If Oturu stinks then maybe Curry can give a few more mns at C (or even Murphy if we want to play Jarvis or even Hurt at the 4 for a while). Point is against most teams we should have enough size in the rotation to get buy even if Stockman isn't providing much
Because he found several examples in a quick search
I think you are confusing my tendencies with yours.
Plus some of the examples he found don't even support his point. The initial post referred to big men (I wouldn't really consider Sims a big man, more of a stretch 4 or even a 3) and Sims wasn't even very good last year, averaging 5.0 ppg and 3.9 rpg in 18.5 mpg. That's not exactly a big impact, which again was the initial post's point.
With a healthy Curry and Oturu I'm hoping Stockman is essentially the 3rd center. Curry can also play the 4 so there may be lineups with him and Oturu in at the same time. Shoot I'm not sure Jarvis can't play the 5 in a pinch. If Stockman can bring something then great. If not he's a big body (or at least a long one) with 5 fouls to give which isn't a bad thing to have
I'd be somewhat surprised if Stockman wasn't the backup center and Oturu wasn't the backup PF.
I'd be somewhat surprised if Stockman wasn't the backup center and Oturu wasn't the backup PF.
ehhh.... If Oturu is at the 4 with Stockman at the 5 that's 2 non shooters out there. I think Pitino wants to spread the floor a bit. Not only is it 2 non shooters but 2 non scorers as I doubt either is going to be creating much O on their own next year. I'd guess about 35 of the 40 mns at the 4 will be taken by Murph/Curry if not all 40. Maybe Jarvis gets a few mns here and there too
ehhh.... If Oturu is at the 4 with Stockman at the 5 that's 2 non shooters out there. I think Pitino wants to spread the floor a bit. Not only is it 2 non shooters but 2 non scorers as I doubt either is going to be creating much O on their own next year. I'd guess about 35 of the 40 mns at the 4 will be taken by Murph/Curry if not all 40. Maybe Jarvis gets a few mns here and there too
Plus some of the examples he found don't even support his point. The initial post referred to big men (I wouldn't really consider Sims a big man, more of a stretch 4 or even a 3) and Sims wasn't even very good last year, averaging 5.0 ppg and 3.9 rpg in 18.5 mpg. That's not exactly a big impact, which again was the initial post's point.
Uhhh FWIW I couldn't find a single minute Sims played at the 3 last season, and as to the stretch 4 point, he attempted exactly one 3-pointer the entire season and his greatest offensive strength is dunking. I'm not saying your point is incorrect, but your parenthetical is misguided. He's definitely not as "true of a center" (whatever that means to you, in my mind it's basically rim protection skill) as Oturu though.
One of Murphy or Curry should always be on the floor.
Where do you find a listing of minutes played on a positional basis?
I use Kenpom and just dive into all the most frequent lineups used - he includes positions for each player in those. I couldn't find Sims at the 3 anywhere. He was almost exclusively at the 4, and was used at the 5 in only a couple lineups.
I use Kenpom and just dive into all the most frequent lineups used - he includes positions for each player in those. I couldn't find Sims at the 3 anywhere. He was almost exclusively at the 4, and was used at the 5 in only a couple lineups.
I believe we are going to be sneaky good this year. I think too many of the Debbie Downers are forgetting how bad our lineup was at times last year. When we were decimated with injuries and had a little foul trouble, we sometimes had to play with Konate at center, Fitz at power fwd, Hurt at small fwd, and Harris at shooting guard. Are you kidding me? If people don’t see the upgrades this year from top to bottom, they are blind.
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I believe we are going to be sneaky good this year. I think too many of the Debbie Downers are forgetting how bad our lineup was at times last year. When we were decimated with injuries and had a little foul trouble, we sometimes had to play with Konate at center, Fitz at power fwd, Hurt at small fwd, and Harris at shooting guard. Are you kidding me? If people don’t see the upgrades this year from top to bottom, they are blind.
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Are you kidding me? If people don’t see the upgrades this year from top to bottom, they are blind.
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No they’re not blind just realistic about expectations. It seems some of this basically guaranteed a tourney spot is purely based on emotion.
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You can LOL all you want but there is absolutely no way this team is a NCAA tourney lock.
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Just jumping into this kinda late but is Washington a lock at the starting position if Carr is eligible? Also is Stull only a shooting guard or is he a combo guard? I saw some article that said he was a PG and 247 says he is a SG. Sorry about the ignorance.
No team is a lock. Injuries, suspensions, and crazy things can happen to any team. And sometimes, teams just fall short of expectations for no apparent reason. On paper though, this team should be considered a tournament team. It's possible we will fall short for various reasons, but there is absolutely no reason to EXPECT us to miss the tournament. Makes no sense with the roster we have.
No team is a lock. Injuries, suspensions, and crazy things can happen to any team. And sometimes, teams just fall short of expectations for no apparent reason. On paper though, this team should be considered a tournament team. It's possible we will fall short for various reasons, but there is absolutely no reason to EXPECT us to miss the tournament. Makes no sense with the roster we have.