Michigan State athletic director Mark Hollis is expected to tender his resignation

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what a cesspool michigan state is, more heads need to roll. more people need to be held accountable and not just lose their jobs.
 

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Outside the Lines also has obtained never-before-publicized reports of sexual or violent incidents involving members of Izzo's storied basketball program, including one report made against a former undergraduate student-assistant coach who was allowed to continue coaching after he had been criminally charged for punching a female MSU student in the face at a bar in 2010. A few months later, after the Spartans qualified for the 2010 Final Four, the same assistant coach was accused of sexually assaulting a different female student.

A FEW MONTHS later, on Monday, Aug. 30, 2010, a different MSU student -- Carolyn Schaner -- and a friend walked into the campus police department and told investigators about an incident that had occurred the night before.

Schaner had moved into Wonders Hall that weekend and attended an orientation meeting. Though she did not know who they were, she saw top basketball recruits Adreian Payne and Keith Appling during the orientation, but she did not speak to them. Later that evening, Schaner ran into them in the dorm's lobby and talked with them before she accepted an invitation to go back to their room, where the three started playing miniature basketball. The two men began taking their clothes off with each missed basket, but Schaner told police she refused to take off any more than her T-shirt, under which she was wearing a sports bra. She told police the two men ended up cornering her and turning off the lights. She told police she felt trapped and fearful of refusing their advances.

Appling, she told police, removed her underwear, and then the two men pulled her to the ground and started penetrating her vaginally, anally and orally. She told police that she said to the men, "I don't want it," "stop" and "don't."

In a video interview obtained by Outside the Lines, Payne told detectives that Schaner had indicated she wanted to leave.

According to a police report, Payne told officers that he could "understand how she would feel that she was not free to leave." Payne was concerned about her reaction to the circumstances and had even asked Appling to apologize to her, the report stated. Payne told officers that he had apologized to Schaner because "it seemed she felt that they 'disrespected' her." ESPN does not typically identify people who report acts of sexual violence, but Schaner sought to publicly reveal her identity.

Appling did not talk to detectives at the time, but he granted a phone interview with Outside the Lines late last year while he was in jail near Detroit serving time for a weapons charge.

"It was consensual," he says, adding that he never heard Schaner say "no" or "stop." "Had that been the case, I would have completely granted her her wishes. We're not even those type of guys. We wouldn't want anybody to feel uncomfortable around us."

Payne is playing in the NBA on a two-way contract with the Orlando Magic and its development team. Neither he nor his agent responded to requests for comment.

Schaner says campus police investigators told her that, because of Payne's police interview, they had a solid case to pursue. Once the case was forwarded from police to Ingham County prosecutors, Schaner was interviewed by an assistant prosecutor, Debra Rousseau Martinez. Schaner says Martinez told her she did not seem strong enough to stand up to questioning that would come as a result of making allegations against MSU basketball players.

No charges were filed in the case. The assistant prosecutor, Martinez, now works for Michigan State's Title IX office. She declined to comment on Schaner's case.

The Payne-Appling allegations drew local media coverage and prompted campus protests. Due to the publicity, a regional representative from the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights reached out to MSU officials and offered assistance. The representative learned nearly immediately that MSU had not started a Title IX investigation into the matter, which is required by federal law.

The university then hired an outside attorney to conduct a Title IX investigation -- almost two months after Schaner made her initial report. On Dec. 19, 2010, the attorney concluded that the two men did not violate university policy.

Schaner, though, did not accept the finding. In June 2011, she filed a complaint with the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights, accusing the university of several missteps. She said the school did not follow its own policy when relocating the two players -- a move she told Outside the Lines she hadn't been made aware of. She said that, despite having a personal protection order, the university allowed Payne and Appling to walk by her and be in close proximity to her. Her complaint also stated that MSU "has been slow to respond to this incident, and has made attempts to keep the incident as quiet as possible."

In its response, Michigan State stated it took all appropriate actions by immediately assigning the two basketball players to different campus housing, by offering counseling and academic services to Schaner, and putting strict restrictions in place to limit the two basketball players' presence near her. MSU said that any encounters among the three were inadvertent and not retaliatory in nature. In his conversation with Outside the Lines, Appling said the one instance in which he and Payne encountered Schaner was an accident and that they were "absolutely aware of the fact that we were not supposed to be around her."

Records show that both freshmen played in every regular-season game that year; Appling told Outside the Lines that he did not remember if he and Payne received any sort of punishment from coaches.

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id...on-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn

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Say what you want about Kaler & Coyle, but when accusations come against their players, they are not swept under the rug.

You might want to question the process, but accusers are not ignored.
 

It makes you wonder where the MSU EOAA was during this
 



A good friend who's a proud MSU grad just texted me in response to this OTL report saying "Burn it all down." Sometimes there are bigger issues than sports. Some people get it, others don't.
 

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When it’s all said and done, Gophers might be one of the more functional programs. AT least players have been held accountable
 



Gopherholefan said:
It makes you wonder where the MSU EOAA was during this
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Been several days since I looked at the "Outside the Lines" article, but what I got out of it was that MSU's EOAA was either ignoring some cases or were in on the fix. I think a panel of several doctors that cleared Nasser were basically proteges or former students of his.
 

"Appling, she told police, removed her underwear, and then the two men pulled her to the ground and started penetrating her vaginally, anally and orally. She told police that she said to the men, "I don't want it," "stop" and "don't."

In a video interview obtained by Outside the Lines, Payne told detectives that Schaner had indicated she wanted to leave.

According to a police report, Payne told officers that he could "understand how she would feel that she was not free to leave." Payne was concerned about her reaction to the circumstances and had even asked Appling to apologize to her, the report stated. Payne told officers that he had apologized to Schaner because "it seemed she felt that they 'disrespected' her." "

Wow. Disgraceful.


"In its response, Michigan State stated it took all appropriate actions by immediately assigning the two basketball players to different campus housing, by offering counseling and academic services to Schaner, and putting strict restrictions in place to limit the two basketball players' presence near her. "

Why did they think she needed counseling if she hadn't been violated or assaulted? Why were they worried about the players being near her?
 



By the sound of things at MSU perhaps they now wish that their procedures were in place like Minnesota's. Even though we all struggle with the happenings here in Gopherland it looks as though the ****storm is really gonna turn ugly at MSU. No way FB and BB coaches survive there.
 

The hallowed ground of Sparty.

They handled it "internally".

Can anyone honestly say there is an ounce of integrity in college athletics?

Yet we at MN, continually in hot water over one thing or another, wonder why Gophs cant compete.

Hallowed Sparty ground, indeed. St Izzo and St Dantonio.

Tar Heels, anyone?
 

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what a cesspool michigan state is, more heads need to roll. more people need to be held accountable and not just lose their jobs.
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Strongly agreed, I heard those stories from the abused, very, very sad.
 

I saw the espn video clip of Izzo's post game presser where he said that he's not going to answer any questions because he's focused on supporting the survivors.

Good riddance, Tom.
 

BarnBurner said:
The hallowed ground of Sparty.

They handled it "internally".

Can anyone honestly say there is an ounce of integrity in college athletics?

Yet we at MN, continually in hot water over one thing or another, wonder why Gophs cant compete.

Hallowed Sparty ground, indeed. St Izzo and St Dantonio.

Tar Heels, anyone?
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Kaler and Coyle haven't handled things perfectly here, but they look 1000 times better than MSU.
 

Wow well at least Tommy Boy is in hot water wow. What a embarrassing program. Justin Gaard was tweeting crap yesterday how the AD and coaches are so respected by the whole nation it was pretty sick actually. Pretty disappointed by his tweets. Your not respected when u cover **** up! Nobody not even the winning programs.
 


Michigan's attorney general announced he is going to get involved. And he is going to be running for governor. There are some very anxious and nervous people at Michigan State.
 

Yeah it’s funny how you don’t really know from the outside. I believed Izzo’s aw shucks thing and really liked him. He cared more about his career and winning than Things more important than sports.
 

The Appling/ Payne stuff has been around forever. Seemed terrible at the time but 2009 was a different time. I posted on it here but got at a huge blah from most.
 

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