Doogie: Gophers are exploring a medical redshirt for Winfield Jr.

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Seems like it might be a stretch.
 


Must imply that they are not going to try to get him back? That would be a bad message to your team if arguably your best defensive player (no offense to big Steve Richardson who may be that guy) ends up being healthy enough to come back and doesn't. Of course this is a moot point if he never gets healthy.
 

Is there any really harm in starting this process. IF he doesn't make it back to play you would want it in progress. If he is good to go in two weeks you probably abandon the effort and if it takes him another 4-5 weeks to come back you have to make a decision based on what the kid wants, what's good for the team, etc...
 



NotAFanOfBecky said:
Must imply that they are not going to try to get him back? That would be a bad message to your team if arguably your best defensive player (no offense to big Steve Richardson who may be that guy) ends up being healthy enough to come back and doesn't. Of course this is a moot point if he never gets healthy.
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Wouldn't this be similar to D. Travis after the TCU game? Maybe he wasn't the best player on defense that year, but his loss was big and he didn't play the rest of the year.
 


LakerFan said:
Is there any really harm in starting this process. IF he doesn't make it back to play you would want it in progress. If he is good to go in two weeks you probably abandon the effort and if it takes him another 4-5 weeks to come back you have to make a decision based on what the kid wants, what's good for the team, etc...
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Gophs don't make the decision, NCAA does. Injury has to be medically proven as incapacitating and season ending in nature.
 



Not good any way you look at it. If the injury is season-ending it's possible could nag him subtlety going forward. In the short term obviously lowers our defensive expectations this year.

As always if it isn't 100% they should shut him down. Too often guys come back early and reinjury occurs.
 

They might as well try, although it seems unlikely that he would stay 3 more years after this anyway. From the sound of the injury it was not that bad - why wouldn’t they just give him a month, bring him back in November and for a possible bowl game? Injury must be worse than they’ve previously indicated.
 

Catechol said:
They might as well try, although it seems unlikely that he would stay 3 more years after this anyway. From the sound of the injury it was not that bad - why wouldn’t they just give him a month, bring him back in November and for a possible bowl game? Injury must be worse than they’ve previously indicated.
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Seems like hamstrings can take a long time to full heal.
 

NotAFanOfBecky said:
Must imply that they are not going to try to get him back? That would be a bad message to your team if arguably your best defensive player (no offense to big Steve Richardson who may be that guy) ends up being healthy enough to come back and doesn't. Of course this is a moot point if he never gets healthy.
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You can't get a medial redshirt if you heal and become healthy enough to play.
 



Pompous Elitist said:
Not good any way you look at it. If the injury is season-ending it's possible could nag him subtlety going forward. In the short term obviously lowers our defensive expectations this year.

As always if it isn't 100% they should shut him down. Too often guys come back early and reinjury occurs.
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Not good, but yup.
 

Medical Hardship Requirements

To be eligible for a medical hardship waiver, a student-athlete has to meet the following criteria:

The student-athlete must suffer the injury during one of their four seasons of college competition or during the senior year of high school.
The injury must be incapacitating. That means it must be a season-ending injury.
The injury must occur prior to the start of the second half of the season.
The student-athlete must not have competed in more than 30% of the season or three contests, whichever is greater.
All of these must be proven with documentation. That means medical documentation to prove the injury and that it was season-ending and participation information to show that the student-athlete did not play in too many contests.
 


gopher7 said:
Seems like hamstrings can take a long time to full heal.
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Yup, they take forever to heal and are super deceiving. You'll think you're fully recovered and then you'll re-aggravate it out of nowhere. Extremely frustrating injuries.
 


Is Tellis Redmon the last gopher to leave early for the nfl?
 



Face The Facts said:
Medical Hardship Requirements

To be eligible for a medical hardship waiver, a student-athlete has to meet the following criteria:

The student-athlete must suffer the injury during one of their four seasons of college competition or during the senior year of high school.
The injury must be incapacitating. That means it must be a season-ending injury.
The injury must occur prior to the start of the second half of the season.
The student-athlete must not have competed in more than 30% of the season or three contests, whichever is greater.
All of these must be proven with documentation. That means medical documentation to prove the injury and that it was season-ending and participation information to show that the student-athlete did not play in too many contests.
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He would maybe meet the competition requirements, having competed in 4 games. That's a third of the season (a little more than 30%) unless they figure it chronologically. Then it looks even worse :(

Plus how bad is a hamstring that we're talking shutting it down for the season with 7 weeks to go? He was at least walking without a limp last weekend on the side. Obviously far different from game speed but haven't heard of many out-for-the-season injuries of this nature.
 



As much as I would love to see him play this year. A healthy Winfield is a no brainer for him as a person as well as for his career in football.
 

Face The Facts said:
Medical Hardship Requirements

To be eligible for a medical hardship waiver, a student-athlete has to meet the following criteria:

The student-athlete must suffer the injury during one of their four seasons of college competition or during the senior year of high school.
The injury must be incapacitating. That means it must be a season-ending injury.
The injury must occur prior to the start of the second half of the season.
The student-athlete must not have competed in more than 30% of the season or three contests, whichever is greater.
All of these must be proven with documentation. That means medical documentation to prove the injury and that it was season-ending and participation information to show that the student-athlete did not play in too many contests.
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He already played in 4/12 games. That alone makes it unlikely they will succeed. Plus he's very unlikely to stay 3 more years. If he can make it back, even just for the Wisconsin game, let him play.
 

howeda7 said:
He already played in 4/12 games. That alone makes it unlikely they will succeed. Plus he's very unlikely to stay 3 more years. If he can make it back, even just for the Wisconsin game, let him play.
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Wasn't he injured in the 1st qtr of game 4? So he'd have played less than 33% of the season. Less than 30% by quarters correct?


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Regardless of the outcome, it truly sucks that the injury is bad enough that they're even CONSIDERING this route. The fact they think they could get a doctor to sign off on the fact that it's incapacitating for the season ain't a good sign. That's a far cry from the rumor on here that it was nbd and he might've played last week.
 

Some Day...Maybe said:
Wasn't he injured in the 1st qtr of game 4? So he'd have played less than 33% of the season. Less than 30% by quarters correct?


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Not sure if you're serious but playing even one play in a game is the same as playing the whole game. Since he played in four games I'm not sure how he could qualify.
 

Lakeville Goldy said:
...Since he played in four games I'm not sure how he could qualify.
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Actually, Antoine Jr. -- or any other college football player -- would qualify for a medical redshirt, if he played in no more than 4 games, all in the first half of the season... and if a doctor signed off on his injury, which would be absolutely NO PROBLEM for Antoine, or anyone else in a similar situation.

But I am in agreement with the earlier poster... if Antoine could be ready for just the Wisconsin game, then I think he would do anything to get on the field, while tossing aside the notion of a medical redshirt.

Lastly, from what I saw of Antoine last year.... if he plays football for Minnesota in 2020, it will be as a Viking... not as a Gopher.
 

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