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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyJamesMD View Post
    Bolton is so gross. Neocon. Neocon. Neocon. Looks like war with Iran/Syria is on. Tough to support Trump with decisions like this.
    Factor how long Bolton may hold the position. Factor who is the Secretary of Defense. Factor who is the Chief of Staff. Factor who is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Factor, factor, factor instead of panic. View the whole picture. Reread beeg's post. We have been led into such a soft position by the last president that we now have to make some noise and carry a big stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyJamesMD View Post
    Bolton is so gross. Neocon. Neocon. Neocon. Looks like war with Iran/Syria is on. Tough to support Trump with decisions like this.
    Bolton is unacceptable to hold any position in any administration. He is truly awful.

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    He is necessary for the short term. He will ferret out and fire the DeepStaters hiding in the NSC. He is NFL, but needed right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diehard View Post
    He is necessary for the short term. He will ferret out and fire the DeepStaters hiding in the NSC. He is NFL, but needed right now.
    He is a deep stater. I thought he was NSC, not a mole seeker.

    He is a yuk.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPFc9YN7LIE

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    er The NRA ad I saw before Bolton was very good. Nice to see Tucker try to take Bolton to task. Couldn't agree with either one. Not fully. Bolton trying to lay the majority of the blame for the current condition of the middle east region wholly (nearly) on Obama is wrong. There is huge shared blame between Bush and Obama. Bush blew it and Obama let it slide backwards. I've explained this many times. Maybe some of you newer guys have missed it. Obviously more complicated than the little stated here by me. I'm not concerned with Bolton sitting in as NSA for a awhile. Long term? Maybe not.
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    Here is a good video on his jump to war. He is big into hitting first


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    Quote Originally Posted by diehard View Post
    Trump wants Flynn back. McMaster was a fail in one too many aspects. Not a disaster.
    Whispers in DC are that Flynn is already making his presence known and will indeed be back with a vengeance once his case is thrown out.

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    As much as I loath Bolton, I understand that Trump hires specific people for specific phases on his plan. Trump has flushed out a lot of deep staters, Obama plants & leakers, often one in the same and it's now time to "Settle all the family business".

    Secondly, Tillerson was very diplomatic and reasonable, letting Trump be the heavy. Now Bolton will take the role of the bad guy and Trump will be the one who appears downright reasonable. The hiring of the rabid dog Bolton puts Iran, North Korea, Russia and others on high alert. Trump just hired a "war time Consiglieri".

    I laughed out loud at the highlighted sentence in the article...


    Bolton Expected to ‘Clean House’:

    The incoming national security advisor aims to ax dozens of White House officials as he dismantles McMaster’s NSC.

    "Incoming National Security Advisor John Bolton and people close to him are expected to launch a massive shake-up at the National Security Council, aiming to remove dozens of current White House officials, starting with holdovers from President Barack Obama’s administration, according to multiple sources.

    Those targeted for removal include officials believed to have been disloyal to President Donald Trump, those who have leaked about the president to the media, his predecessor’s team, and those who came in under Obama.

    “Bolton can and will clean house,” one former White House official said.

    Another source said, “He is going to remove almost all the political [appointees] McMaster brought in.”

    A second former White House official offered a blunt assessment of former Obama officials currently detailed or appointed to the NSC: “Everyone who was there during Obama years should start packing their sh*t.”

    On Thursday evening, just hours after Trump tapped him for the job, Bolton held a call with longtime advisors, including Matthew Freedman, a Republican consultant who once advised Bolton at the State Department and the United Nations. Freedman is currently helping manage the transition, according to a source familiar with the call.

    “Freedman is a very political guy that Bolton likes,” one Republican source said. “He is overly ambitious about cleaning house.”

    Freedman disputed that account, saying he was not aware of the Thursday phone call. “I can tell you there is no list,” he said.

    Another source close to Bolton said it was premature to be talking about personnel changes.

    Trump and Bolton see eye to eye on a more hawkish foreign policy, especially when it comes to North Korea and Iran, and are equally averse to multilateral diplomacy, whether that means the U.N. or working with the European Union.

    That has veterans of the Trump administration predicting that Bolton will quickly seek to install his own team at the NSC, which functions as a clearing house for policy advice and is supposed to integrate the different perspectives of U.S. government agencies.

    Among the officials Bolton’s allies are urging him to fire is Nadia Schadlow, currently the deputy national security advisor for strategy. Schadlow was the primary author of the administration’s recently released National Security Strategy, which was viewed as a surprisingly mainstream document that reaffirmed many traditional U.S. foreign-policy positions. Another official likely to be targeted in a Bolton purge is McMaster’s deputy, Ricky Waddell.

    It wouldn’t be the first purge to follow a change in Trump’s national security advisor. When Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster replaced retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn in the job last year, McMaster systematically eliminated officials seen as loyal to his predecessor. According to four sources close to the White House, some of those so-called “Flynnstones” — advisors loyal to Flynn — are believed to be plotting their return to the NSC.

    Whether Bolton will sign off on the staff purge his allies and advisors are pushing is less clear, though he has been insistent about ousting so-called Obama holdovers. “You could easily say that people close to Bolton want these people to go,” one source said. Other sources stress that Bolton, a veteran bureaucratic infighter, makes his own decisions.

    A source close to Bolton cautioned that any staffing changes would take time, given the need to process security clearances. That means Bolton will likely be stuck with his current staff for the May summit meeting between Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    Bolton is a known quantity for Trump, who has for years watched the former George W. Bush administration official on Fox News. He enters the White House with Trump’s ear, the source close to Bolton said, which promises to further raise tensions with chief of staff John Kelly. Whether Kelly and Bolton are able to forge a working relationship will mark an early test for both men’s ability to run a well-functioning staff.

    Another question concerns Bolton’s traditionally hard-line stance toward Russia and Russian President Vladimir Putin, which is at odds with Trump’s. Two sources familiar with Bolton’s relationship with Trump said one of the big unknowns was how Bolton’s approach to Russia will go over with the president or if he’s even aware of those differences.

    Trump and Bolton have discussed staffing changes since at least last July, when Bolton was offered the job as McMaster’s deputy, the position currently held by Waddell. Trump told Bolton that the deputy job would lead to the top post, but Bolton declined, saying he’d rather wait until he was offered the national security advisor job, according to three sources familiar with the matter.

    McMaster’s departure may have been hastened by leaks emanating from the White House. Two sources familiar with the matter said McMaster was going to stay on until early summer.

    But when the Washington Post reported this week that Trump had congratulated Putin in a phone call on his fraudulent election win — after receiving written briefing materials from the NSC instructing him not to congratulate Putin — the president reacted furiously and blamed McMaster. The story caused Trump to speed up McMaster’s departure, the sources said.
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    http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/23/...o-clean-house/

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    Quote Originally Posted by justthefacts View Post




    I love watching so called "liberals" defend everyone & anyone involved in the CIA/FBI/NSA, even & especially the crooked, dirty ones. The people who brought us the wars in Iraq, AfPak, Syria, Yemen, Libya, torture prisons and domestic spying. This is how far off the map the left has fallen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costa Rican Gopher View Post
    I love watching so called "liberals" defend everyone & anyone involved in the CIA/FBI/NSA, even & especially the crooked, dirty ones. The people who brought us the wars in Iraq, AfPak, Syria, Yemen, Libya, torture prisons and domestic spying. This is how far off the map the left has fallen.
    I love watching you talk yourself into a war-monger Nat Sec Advisor.

    People who work on the NSC do not work for the CIA, FBI, or NSA.

    Which ones are crooked and dirty, though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justthefacts View Post
    I love watching you talk yourself into a war-monger Nat Sec Advisor.

    People who work on the NSC do not work for the CIA, FBI, or NSA.

    Which ones are crooked and dirty, though?
    They're gone buddy, deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costa Rican Gopher View Post
    Bolton Expected to ‘Clean House’:

    Those targeted for removal include officials believed to have been disloyal to President Donald Trump
    That's some real banana republic bull**** right there.

    They're not supposed to be loyal to Trump, they are supposed to be loyal to their duty.
    by station19 - Quit talking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered User View Post
    That's some real banana republic bull**** right there.

    They're not supposed to be loyal to Trump, they are supposed to be loyal to their duty.
    They're supposed to work at the discretion of the president, not to sabotage the president. All saboteurs will be purged. This is going to get very ugly in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered User View Post
    That's some real banana republic bull**** right there.

    They're not supposed to be loyal to Trump, they are supposed to be loyal to their duty.
    Like you have any concept of duty.
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