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    Quote Originally Posted by Costa Rican Gopher View Post
    Yep, I definitely said that & I've reiterated here more than once that I loathe Bolton in this thread. I didn't want a rabid pitbull in my yard. Now that it's clear there are dangerous people trying to get into the house, the rabid pitbull sounds like a good idea.

    Bolton isn't the only person who can fire people, but he's the most vicious & vicious is what Trump needs right now. I'd also be more than fine with the sociopath Giuliani as the special prosecutor right now. It's time to go for the throat.
    1. I'm surprised you are sticking (kinda ?) with being anti-Bolton. But then again, you're saying it's a great hire for Trump, who you adore as your hero. So which are you going to go with, bad for you or good for you? Both?

    2. Why does Trump need to "go for the throat"? He is his own worst enemy, and his inclinations into RW autocracy is a large part of (a) why most Americans dislike him and (b) why he is in a lot of legal trouble. He "going for the throat", i.e., attempting to remove the last vestiges of our democracy to become fully authoritarian, would brutalize the country into divisions we haven't seen since over 150 years ago. While it is long past his chance to become a POTUS for America instead of the asinine ultra-RW path he chose, further alienating everyone else will not help his chances at a legal election victory in 2020, nor will it help keep the House or Senate in favor of Republicans in 2018 and/or 2020.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gopherguy0723 View Post
    There are some people who should never be in a position of power in the government or in a position to influence governmental decisions. John Bolton is one of those people.

    No excuse or justification. He should never hold this position under any circumstances.

    He isn't a Neocon. He doesn't care about promoting democracy. He is simply insane.

    He also is vindictive as hell, does not listen to dissenting opinions from his, and will not present alternative ideas of his own to anyone. We are talking about a guy who will control who sees the president and what ideas the president hears. The last thing we need is for him to parade war mongers through the door everyday.

    He is extremely dangerous and reckless. This is actually the first truly dangerous person that Trump has granted power. This is very bad.
    This. John Bolton is a terrible person, period.

  3. #108

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costa Rican Gopher View Post
    Whispers in DC are that Flynn is already making his presence known and will indeed be back with a vengeance once his case is thrown out.
    Presumably Mike Flynn will be Nat Sec Advisor as of tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costa Rican Gopher View Post
    They're supposed to work at the discretion of the president, not to sabotage the president. All saboteurs will be purged. This is going to get very ugly in the near future.
    Apparently the guy hired to purge the saboteurs instead hired some more saboteurs:



  5. #110

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    Mike Flynn is out! President offering NSA post to Todd Palin.
    ~ Wright about Life - Having fun with words since 1989 ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodasGold View Post
    Mike Flynn is out! President offering NSA post to Todd Palin.
    You're going to need a sarcasm font. This seems entirely possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howeda7 View Post
    You're going to need a sarcasm font. This seems entirely possible.
    Here's the problem. You rip Trump's appointments as terrible, unqualified, etc. But then you lost your mind over Kavanaugh. You don't realize it, you're just in a constant state of venting (and regurgitating MSNBC talking points). But the Kavanaugh thing destroys your credibility on Trump's other appointments. You don't come off as a reasonable person pointing out principled problems with Trump. It all gets lumped together, and the sheer volume of your complaints wash everything out. TDS sufferers like you think you're right on all points because Trump is all bad and all evil. But any fair minded person can see thru it and will ignore it.

  8. #113

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    A reminder that WaPo was out ahead of this based on anonymous sources:



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ab7_story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by justthefacts View Post
    A reminder that WaPo was out ahead of this based on anonymous sources:



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ab7_story.html
    It's a shame the MSM has relied so heavily on anonymous sources, and been so reckless with their sourcing generally. There's no possible way for an outsider to determine what's true and false. It would take a lot more than a single "we were right!" to overcome the destruction of credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justthefacts View Post
    A reminder that WaPo was out ahead of this based on anonymous sources:



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ab7_story.html
    The Washington Post will either make up bad news about the Trump administration or report in hopes of it. Either way, they will be determined to find bad news about Trump. The options: 1. He did the wrong thing. He may have done the right thing but he did it the wrong way. He's right but someone disagrees so there is chaos. He's wrong and everyone hates him for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    It's a shame the MSM has relied so heavily on anonymous sources, and been so reckless with their sourcing generally. There's no possible way for an outsider to determine what's true and false. It would take a lot more than a single "we were right!" to overcome the destruction of credibility.
    Why do you (and many others here) continue to be so obtuse about how journalism works? If you guys actually learned something about how journalists obtain these stories and what they require internally to publish them, you wouldn't have to wonder if this story was true or false.
    Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega015 View Post
    Why do you (and many others here) continue to be so obtuse about how journalism works? If you guys actually learned something about how journalists obtain these stories and what they require internally to publish them, you wouldn't have to wonder if this story was true or false.

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    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/09/trum...-reporter.html

    https://deadline.com/2019/03/washing...on-1202568450/

    There are lots of examples. For many in the media, it seems they feel their job is not to inform the public, but to influence the thinking of the public, and they are furious that we're not listening



    Now, Omega, you can default to "there's no point discussing this with you, bye" like always.

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    Interesting thread here about Trump's plan for Iran (among others) vs others in the GOP:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Section2 View Post
    He said journalists. Not primetime entertainers....insert Hannity/Seth Rich conspiracy.

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