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    Default Anonymous U football player: Fleck more proactive than Kill/Claeys in accountability

    per the Daily:

    As a new Gophers football coach and athletics director try to change the culture of the program, one football player says the new tone is more serious than that of previous coaches.

    The player spoke with the Daily Friday and asked to remain anonymous to preserve his standing with teammates as he discussed the boycott, how the team has changed under the leadership of new head coach P.J. Fleck, and past run-ins with sexual assault training.

    He said Fleck told the team if any of them are involved in incidents similar to the alleged assault, “there’s no place for you in this program.”

    “The big thing that [Fleck] said was, ‘you can’t change whatever did happen,’” he said. “’But either way, this is the new standard.’”

    This approach to misconduct is more proactive than those taken by former coaches Tracy Claeys and Jerry Kill, the player said. “There’s definitely some walk behind the talk [with Fleck].”

    http://www.mndaily.com/article/2017/...rs-accountable

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    Kill had no problem tossing guys, Tracy did it too...

    Fleck has just talked so far.

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    Do you know the definition of the word proactive?

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    Fleck is taking over a team coming off a gang bang scandal. I am sure Brew did the same in 2007 after he tossed Daniels, Jones, Jones and Massey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Slab_of_Bacon View Post
    Kill had no problem tossing guys, Tracy did it too...

    Fleck has just talked so far.
    Who did Claeys toss besides Smith???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickman55 View Post
    Do you know the definition of the word proactive?
    Isn't that an acne medicine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Slab_of_Bacon View Post
    Kill had no problem tossing guys, Tracy did it too...

    Fleck has just talked so far.
    The goal should be to get to the point where kicking players off the team doesn't need to occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SconnieGopher15 View Post
    Who did Claeys toss besides Smith???
    Does Smith not count?


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    Having read the article - the player who approached the Daily was opposed to the boycott, so there's an agenda involved here. He also requested to be anonymous - suggesting that his viewpoint may not be popular with at least some - if not a majority - of the other players.
    if this player was not a big Claeys fan, it's not surprising that he would come out in support of Fleck.

    As to the substance of the article, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that Fleck - or any coach coming into this situation - would take the 'zero tolerance' stance. The players had better understand that they're in the spotlight, and any misbehavior is likely going to draw a more severe punishment than might have happened under different circumstances.

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    I'm so glad this culture change is happening so people will look at the U more positively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by short ornery norwegian View Post
    Having read the article - the player who approached the Daily was opposed to the boycott, so there's an agenda involved here. He also requested to be anonymous - suggesting that his viewpoint may not be popular with at least some - if not a majority - of the other players.
    if this player was not a big Claeys fan, it's not surprising that he would come out in support of Fleck.

    As to the substance of the article, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that Fleck - or any coach coming into this situation - would take the 'zero tolerance' stance. The players had better understand that they're in the spotlight, and any misbehavior is likely going to draw a more severe punishment than might have happened under different circumstances.

    My guess is the player thought what the players did was wrong, and couldn't stand it just like the majority of Minnesotan's. He's probably relived to have someone there who walks the walk, not just talks the talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatles View Post
    The goal should be to get to the point where kicking players off the team doesn't need to occur.
    That's making perfect the enemy of good kinda talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Slab_of_Bacon View Post
    That's making perfect the enemy of good kinda talk.
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Slab_of_Bacon View Post
    Kill had no problem tossing guys, Tracy did it too...

    Fleck has just talked so far.
    Seriously, what are you trying to argue? That this player doesn't know the difference between one culture vs. another even thought he is immersed in it? Are you suggesting that since Fleck hasn't tossed anyone out yet, he must be more lenient. And why must someone have an agenda when they provide an opinion. The view that he has an agenda is based on incomplete information and its silly to suggest it. Just take it at face value. That said, this player also admitted to voting for Donald Trump. O wait, no he said he voted for Hillary Clinton. I guess I don't remember which... but its important and we should know.

    It sound more to me like Slab of Bacon and Short Ornery Norweigen have the agenda. Use whatever means necessary to refute any information that doesn't support their opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatles View Post
    The goal should be to get to the point where kicking players off the team doesn't need to occur.
    Correct. Fleck drew the line in the sand and it should be obvious to all the players that such conduct will not be tolerated, no need for a hearing. It is easy to say that is what any coach would have done, but obviously that line was not draw by the coaches before the incident.


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